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Changing the oil

Jg 21 April 2005 15:35:41
 ...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe) square
socket in the sump plug, a tool for which isn't available from any tool shop
around here. Haven't tried a volvo dealer yet but don't want to give the
satisfaction. Just wanted to say... geeze.


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Mike F 11 April 2005 17:55:30 permanent link ]
 jg wrote:>
...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe) square> socket in the sump plug, a tool for which isn't available from any tool shop> around here. Haven't tried a volvo dealer yet but don't want to give the> satisfaction. Just wanted to say... geeze.

Another of the joys of the V6.

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Disallow 11 April 2005 18:24:22 permanent link ]
 Can't you just use your ratchet with no socket
on it? My honda's trannie plug is like that,
no socket required, just the ratchet or a
breaker bar.

t

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~^ Beancounter ~^ 11 April 2005 18:40:52 permanent link ]
 special volvo wrench required...it
keeps up the revenue stream.....

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Jg 12 April 2005 01:20:57 permanent link ]
 
"disallow" <loewen_t at yahoo.ca @> wrote in message
news:bda6e5b7d90a1d­49a8d499d8c8db73fd@l­ocalhost.talkaboutau­tos.com...> Can't you just use your ratchet with no socket> on it? My honda's trannie plug is like that,> no socket required, just the ratchet or a> breaker bar.>
They are only 1/4", 3/8" or 1/2" (and come in some bigger sizes). 5/16"
would have been about right but there is no such.


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James Sweet 12 April 2005 05:58:29 permanent link ]
 
"jg" <jg@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ZSB6e.8022$5F3­.4778@news-server.bi­gpond.net.au...>
"disallow" <loewen_t at yahoo.ca @> wrote in message> news:bda6e5b7d90a1d­49a8d499d8c8db73fd@l­ocalhost.talkaboutau­tos.com...> > Can't you just use your ratchet with no socket> > on it? My honda's trannie plug is like that,> > no socket required, just the ratchet or a> > breaker bar.> >
They are only 1/4", 3/8" or 1/2" (and come in some bigger sizes). 5/16"> would have been about right but there is no such.>

Find a local machine shop and have them make you a socket, or do it yourself
by filing down a short grade-8 bolt with a hand file or bench grinder. It'll
cost you only a couple bucks.


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Gary Heston 12 April 2005 07:58:38 permanent link ]
 In article <C7q6e.7299$5F3.515­@news-server.bigpond­.net.au>,
jg <jg@nospam.com> wrote:>...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe) square>socket in the sump plug, a tool for which isn't available from any tool shop>around here. Haven't tried a volvo dealer yet but don't want to give the>satisfaction. Just wanted to say... geeze.

Find a short piece of square bar stock that will fit it, and apply a
Crescent wrench.

Then borrow a car and go buy a conventional drain plug and replace it.


Gary

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Jg 12 April 2005 11:49:11 permanent link ]
 
"Gary Heston" <gheston@hiwaay.net­> wrote in message
news:115mhre838j2uf­f@corp.supernews.com­...> In article <C7q6e.7299$5F3.515­@news-server.bigpond­.net.au>,> jg <jg@nospam.com> wrote:> >...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe) square> >socket in the sump plug, a tool for which isn't available from any tool
shop> >around here. Haven't tried a volvo dealer yet but don't want to give the> >satisfaction. Just wanted to say... geeze.>
Find a short piece of square bar stock that will fit it, and apply a> Crescent wrench.>
Then borrow a car and go buy a conventional drain plug and replace it.>
Thanks you all for the suggestions folks, I got a 5/16" worn lathe tool from
a mate. But it was really hard from good local toolshops and a volvo dealer
didn't want to know... they must expect the car to be scrapped after the 10
years support quoted. Good advert for a new one. not.


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Glenn Klein 13 April 2005 04:47:43 permanent link ]
 jg wrote:> "Gary Heston" <gheston@hiwaay.net­> wrote in message> news:115mhre838j2uf­f@corp.supernews.com­...>
In article <C7q6e.7299$5F3.515­@news-server.bigpond­.net.au>,>>jg <jg@nospam.com> wrote:>>
...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe) square>>>socket in the sump plug, a tool for which isn't available from any tool>
shop>
around here. Haven't tried a volvo dealer yet but don't want to give the>>>satisfaction.­ Just wanted to say... geeze.>>
Find a short piece of square bar stock that will fit it, and apply a>>Crescent wrench.>>
Then borrow a car and go buy a conventional drain plug and replace it.>>
Thanks you all for the suggestions folks, I got a 5/16" worn lathe tool from> a mate. But it was really hard from good local toolshops and a volvo dealer> didn't want to know... they must expect the car to be scrapped after the 10> years support quoted. Good advert for a new one. not.>
Volvo does not make a tool for the drain plug on the V-6 Motors any good
auto parts store should be able to supply you with the correct Allen key
to remove the drain plug

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Is for the New York City Firemen who lost their lives on September 11,2001.
The official count is 343, but there was also a volunteer who lost his life
aiding in the initial rescue efforts. And I will never forget them as
long as I live,
nor should any American.
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Jg 13 April 2005 04:59:36 permanent link ]
 
"Glenn Klein" <Glenn@hotmail.net>­ wrote in message
news:425C6C2F.10408­04@hotmail.net...> jg wrote:> > "Gary Heston" <gheston@hiwaay.net­> wrote in message> > news:115mhre838j2uf­f@corp.supernews.com­...> >
In article <C7q6e.7299$5F3.515­@news-server.bigpond­.net.au>,> >>jg <jg@nospam.com> wrote:> >>
...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe)
square> >>>socket in the sump plug, a tool for which isn't available from any tool> >
shop> >
around here. Haven't tried a volvo dealer yet but don't want to give
satisfaction. Just wanted to say... geeze.> >>
Find a short piece of square bar stock that will fit it, and apply a> >>Crescent wrench.> >>
Then borrow a car and go buy a conventional drain plug and replace it.> >>
Thanks you all for the suggestions folks, I got a 5/16" worn lathe tool
from> > a mate. But it was really hard from good local toolshops and a volvo
dealer> > didn't want to know... they must expect the car to be scrapped after the
years support quoted. Good advert for a new one. not.> >
Volvo does not make a tool for the drain plug on the V-6 Motors any good> auto parts store should be able to supply you with the correct Allen key> to remove the drain plug>
I would have thought so and can believe there are better sops than here in
western australia, but none of the local shops had anything. Repco told me
there was a special volvo tool but they probably wouldn't sell one to me.


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Jg 13 April 2005 05:15:36 permanent link ]
 
"Mike F" <"mikef2316()"@alls­ttream.nett> wrote in message
news:425A81D2.95B62­C20@allsttream.nett.­..> jg wrote:> >
...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe) square> > socket in the sump plug, a tool for which isn't available from any tool
shop> > around here. Haven't tried a volvo dealer yet but don't want to give the> > satisfaction. Just wanted to say... geeze.>
Another of the joys of the V6.>
Sure it's a pig of a motor & possibly the worst thing volvo ever did, but
you choose 25 year old cars on different criteria. This is a fairly minor
problemette specially when the whole thing cost less than a head job on a
Camry. Other cars & motors have foibles too, this newsgoup is quite active
with peoples' problems but the v6 is barely figures... you'd wonder if any
volvo really is that flash based on some stories here.


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Glenn Klein 14 April 2005 02:58:40 permanent link ]
 jg wrote:> "Glenn Klein" <Glenn@hotmail.net>­ wrote in message> news:425C6C2F.10408­04@hotmail.net...>
jg wrote:>>
"Gary Heston" <gheston@hiwaay.net­> wrote in message>>>news:115m­hre838j2uff@corp.sup­ernews.com...>>>
In article <C7q6e.7299$5F3.515­@news-server.bigpond­.net.au>,>>>>jg <jg@nospam.com> wrote:>>>>
...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe)>
square>
socket in the sump plug, a tool for which isn't available from any tool>>>
shop>>>
around here. Haven't tried a volvo dealer yet but don't want to give>
satisfaction. Just wanted to say... geeze.>>>>
Find a short piece of square bar stock that will fit it, and apply a>>>>Crescent wrench.>>>>
Then borrow a car and go buy a conventional drain plug and replace it.>>>>
Thanks you all for the suggestions folks, I got a 5/16" worn lathe tool>
from>
a mate. But it was really hard from good local toolshops and a volvo>
dealer>
didn't want to know... they must expect the car to be scrapped after the>
years support quoted. Good advert for a new one. not.>>>
Volvo does not make a tool for the drain plug on the V-6 Motors any good>>auto parts store should be able to supply you with the correct Allen key>>to remove the drain plug>>
I would have thought so and can believe there are better sops than here in> western australia, but none of the local shops had anything. Repco told me> there was a special volvo tool but they probably wouldn't sell one to me.>
If there is a special Volvo tool you can purchase from the dealers part
department I will check this with the parts department on Thursday &
post back with the part # & approximate cost
Glenn

--
"*-344-*Never Forgotten"
Is for the New York City Firemen who lost their lives on September 11,2001.
The official count is 343, but there was also a volunteer who lost his life
aiding in the initial rescue efforts. And I will never forget them as
long as I live,
nor should any American.
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Peter K L Milnes 14 April 2005 03:08:40 permanent link ]
 Why not try a Renault or Peugeot dealer? They both used the same V6 motor.

Cheers, Peter.

"jg" <jg@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Yo_6e.9352$5F3­.3211@news-server.bi­gpond.net.au...>
"Mike F" <"mikef2316()"@alls­ttream.nett> wrote in message> news:425A81D2.95B62­C20@allsttream.nett.­..>> jg wrote:>> >
...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe) >> > square>> > socket in the sump plug, a tool for which isn't available from any tool> shop>> > around here. Haven't tried a volvo dealer yet but don't want to give >> > the>> > satisfaction. Just wanted to say... geeze.>>
Another of the joys of the V6.>>
Sure it's a pig of a motor & possibly the worst thing volvo ever did, but> you choose 25 year old cars on different criteria. This is a fairly minor> problemette specially when the whole thing cost less than a head job on a> Camry. Other cars & motors have foibles too, this newsgoup is quite active> with peoples' problems but the v6 is barely figures... you'd wonder if any> volvo really is that flash based on some stories here.>


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Michael Pardee 14 April 2005 04:06:07 permanent link ]
 "jg" <jg@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:C7q6e.7299$5F3­.515@news-server.big­pond.net.au...> ...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe) square> socket in the sump plug, a tool for which isn't available from any tool > shop> around here. Haven't tried a volvo dealer yet but don't want to give the> satisfaction. Just wanted to say... geeze.>
Your frustration continues as I found this discontinued (no replacement)
item:
http://www.etoolcar­t.com/index.asp?Page­Action=VIEWPROD&Prod­ID=3840

8 mm appears to be correct, according to the description at the bottom.
Yahoo shopping indicates they were about $10 US for the set, but it finds no
other hits on the part number... ditto Google. Kd-tools.com does not list it
in their catalog. I suspect KD tools was a sole source and they have stopped
production.

Mike



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Jg 14 April 2005 04:26:58 permanent link ]
 
"Glenn Klein" <Glenn@hotmail.net>­ wrote in message
news:425DA420.80608­05@hotmail.net...> jg wrote:> > "Glenn Klein" <Glenn@hotmail.net>­ wrote in message> > news:425C6C2F.10408­04@hotmail.net...> >
...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe)> >
...................­..> >
If there is a special Volvo tool you can purchase from the dealers part> department I will check this with the parts department on Thursday &> post back with the part # & approximate cost> Glenn>
Again thanks for your trouble Michael, Glen & etc. the lathe tool from my
mate should work but haven't tried it yet. Meanwhile I might have set a
record for longest thread for the smallest bit for a volvo?


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Jg 14 April 2005 04:28:35 permanent link ]
 That's a really smart suggestion although pretty obvious didn't occur to me.
That will be my next resort for sure if my lathe cutter doesn't work.

"Peter K L Milnes" <Peter.K.L.Milnes@b­tinternet.com> wrote in message
news:d3k8po$u9$1@he­rcules.btinternet.co­m...> Why not try a Renault or Peugeot dealer? They both used the same V6 motor.>
Cheers, Peter.>
"jg" <jg@nospam.com> wrote in message> news:Yo_6e.9352$5F3­.3211@news-server.bi­gpond.net.au...> >
"Mike F" <"mikef2316()"@alls­ttream.nett> wrote in message> > news:425A81D2.95B62­C20@allsttream.nett.­..> >> jg wrote:> >> >
...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe)> >> > square> >> > socket in the sump plug, a tool for which isn't available from any
tool> > shop> >> > around here. Haven't tried a volvo dealer yet but don't want to give> >> > the> >> > satisfaction. Just wanted to say... geeze.> >>
Another of the joys of the V6.> >>
Sure it's a pig of a motor & possibly the worst thing volvo ever did,
you choose 25 year old cars on different criteria. This is a fairly
minor> > problemette specially when the whole thing cost less than a head job on
Camry. Other cars & motors have foibles too, this newsgoup is quite
active> > with peoples' problems but the v6 is barely figures... you'd wonder if
volvo really is that flash based on some stories here.


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Mike F 14 April 2005 16:15:15 permanent link ]
 jg wrote:>
That's a really smart suggestion although pretty obvious didn't occur to me.> That will be my next resort for sure if my lathe cutter doesn't work.>
"Peter K L Milnes" <Peter.K.L.Milnes@b­tinternet.com> wrote in message> news:d3k8po$u9$1@he­rcules.btinternet.co­m...> > Why not try a Renault or Peugeot dealer? They both used the same V6 motor.> >

You can get them off tool trucks. Around here there are Snap-On and MAC
tool trucks, they probably won't have it on board, but they'd be able to
get it. Or to the "quickie oil change place" method - Vice grips!

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Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

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Jg 14 April 2005 23:41:55 permanent link ]
 
"Mike F" <"mikef2316()"@alls­ttream.nett> wrote in message
news:425E5ED3.AE4B1­BB3@allsttream.nett.­..> jg wrote:> >
That's a really smart suggestion although pretty obvious didn't occur to
me.> > That will be my next resort for sure if my lathe cutter doesn't work.> >
"Peter K L Milnes" <Peter.K.L.Milnes@b­tinternet.com> wrote in message> > news:d3k8po$u9$1@he­rcules.btinternet.co­m...> > > Why not try a Renault or Peugeot dealer? They both used the same V6
motor.> > >
You can get them off tool trucks. Around here there are Snap-On and MAC> tool trucks, they probably won't have it on board, but they'd be able to> get it. Or to the "quickie oil change place" method - Vice grips!>
We have snapon too, you have to be somewhere they go (I work at home as a
draftsman) & they don't seem to have an address in this state, they also
don't seem to have much of a website. Vicegrips are one of my tools of
choice but this is a female plug... double adaptor so to speak.


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Mike F 15 April 2005 17:43:26 permanent link ]
 jg wrote:>
We have snapon too, you have to be somewhere they go (I work at home as a> draftsman) & they don't seem to have an address in this state, they also> don't seem to have much of a website. Vicegrips are one of my tools of> choice but this is a female plug... double adaptor so to speak.

I can't help you finding a truck, but for a mere A$ 30.47...
http://buy1.snapon.­com/catalog/item.asp­?P65=&tool=all&item_­ID=65528&group_ID=25­9&store=australia&di­r=catalog
It looks like you can order it online.
As I remember the V6 drain plug, there's about 3mm sticking out that you
could get your vice grips onto. (I've seen them damaged this way at my
friend's shop.) Then buy a proper plug, with a hex head. Over here the
V6 as installed in the 200 series had a plug with 16 mm threads, the
version in the 760 had 18 mm threads.

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Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
(But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
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Jg 15 April 2005 23:05:51 permanent link ]
 
"Mike F" <"mikef2316()"@alls­ttream.nett> wrote in message
news:425FC4FE.82CD7­9E2@allsttream.nett.­..> jg wrote:> >
We have snapon too, you have to be somewhere they go (I work at home as
draftsman) & they don't seem to have an address in this state, they also> > don't seem to have much of a website. Vicegrips are one of my tools of> > choice but this is a female plug... double adaptor so to speak.>
I can't help you finding a truck, but for a mere A$ 30.47...>
http://buy1.snapon.­com/catalog/item.asp­?P65=&tool=all&item_­ID=65528&group_ID
=259&store=australi­a&dir=catalog> It looks like you can order it online.> As I remember the V6 drain plug, there's about 3mm sticking out that you> could get your vice grips onto. (I've seen them damaged this way at my> friend's shop.) Then buy a proper plug, with a hex head. Over here the> V6 as installed in the 200 series had a plug with 16 mm threads, the> version in the 760 had 18 mm threads.>
Thank you Mike, it's even an Aus. website. Part of my trouble was the
nomenclature (I wouldn't have called it a socket... or a pipe plug). I will
see how the bit I have works first but might bite the bullet despite the
price - my engineering substitutions usually don't go too well partly
because the workshop is a bit too basic & now full of leftovers from
daughters' attempts at leaving home.


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Mike F 18 April 2005 16:30:20 permanent link ]
 jg wrote:>
Thank you Mike, it's even an Aus. website. Part of my trouble was the> nomenclature (I wouldn't have called it a socket... or a pipe plug). I will> see how the bit I have works first but might bite the bullet despite the> price - my engineering substitutions usually don't go too well partly> because the workshop is a bit too basic & now full of leftovers from> daughters' attempts at leaving home.

Yeah, I could see from your ISP that you were in Australia. Change the
word "australia" to "canada" and see it only would cost me C$ 14.60, or
about A$ 15.31 at today's exchange rate, about half what you'd pay.
Ouch!

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Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

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Jg 19 April 2005 13:39:50 permanent link ]
 
"Mike F" <"mikef2316()"@alls­ttream.nett> wrote in message
news:4263A85C.A1D8C­D20@allsttream.nett.­..> jg wrote:> >
Thank you Mike, it's even an Aus. website. Part of my trouble was the> > nomenclature (I wouldn't have called it a socket... or a pipe plug). I
will> > see how the bit I have works first but might bite the bullet despite the> > price - my engineering substitutions usually don't go too well partly> > because the workshop is a bit too basic & now full of leftovers from> > daughters' attempts at leaving home.>
Yeah, I could see from your ISP that you were in Australia. Change the> word "australia" to "canada" and see it only would cost me C$ 14.60, or> about A$ 15.31 at today's exchange rate, about half what you'd pay.> Ouch!>
If I thought everything was that comparitively cheap I might consider
changing the word on my address. I always believed Daivd Suzuki when he said
Aust & Canada were similar in being resources bread-baskets & yet economic
basket cases. Much we buy here now is Chinese & so cheap it's scarey & the
quality is improving quicker than Jap stuff did. Still an ex-Canadian mate
of mine is doing well here - his business is called Spir(r?)it River &
exporting radio aerials, hates more than anything being called a yank.


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Z 19 April 2005 23:14:26 permanent link ]
 
Gary Heston wrote:> In article <C7q6e.7299$5F3.515­@news-server.bigpond­.net.au>,> jg <jg@nospam.com> wrote:> >...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe)
square> >socket in the sump plug, a tool for which isn't available from any
tool shop> >around here. Haven't tried a volvo dealer yet but don't want to give
satisfaction. Just wanted to say... geeze.>
Find a short piece of square bar stock that will fit it, and apply a> Crescent wrench.>
Then borrow a car and go buy a conventional drain plug and replace
it.

Switch over to a drain valve. Fumoto, for instance.

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John Robertson 21 April 2005 15:35:41 permanent link ]
 RIP IT OUT WITH A ALLEN KEY REPLACE IT WITH A NORMAL NUT ,STUPID FROGGY IDEA
.
I sadly admit I once owned a V6 264 wish synthetic oil was around back then
.Dont trust any people who eat snails and frogs .Amechanic should have it
out in a jiffy or use a key near the fit using a screw driver to make up the
difference .P\s a falcon oil filter will fit straight on much cheaper too
.Z9


"jg" <jg@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Glenn Klein" <Glenn@hotmail.net>­ wrote in message> news:425C6C2F.10408­04@hotmail.net...>> jg wrote:>> > "Gary Heston" <gheston@hiwaay.net­> wrote in message>> > news:115mhre838j2uf­f@corp.supernews.com­...>> >
In article <C7q6e.7299$5F3.515­@news-server.bigpond­.net.au>,>> >>jg <jg@nospam.com> wrote:>> >>
...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe)> square>> >>>socket in the sump plug, a tool for which isn't available from any >> >>>tool>> >
shop>> >
around here. Haven't tried a volvo dealer yet but don't want to give> the>> >>>satisfaction. Just wanted to say... geeze.>> >>
Find a short piece of square bar stock that will fit it, and apply a>> >>Crescent wrench.>> >>
Then borrow a car and go buy a conventional drain plug and replace it.>> >>
Thanks you all for the suggestions folks, I got a 5/16" worn lathe tool> from>> > a mate. But it was really hard from good local toolshops and a volvo> dealer>> > didn't want to know... they must expect the car to be scrapped after >> > the> 10>> > years support quoted. Good advert for a new one. not.>> >
Volvo does not make a tool for the drain plug on the V-6 Motors any good>> auto parts store should be able to supply you with the correct Allen key>> to remove the drain plug>>
I would have thought so and can believe there are better sops than here in> western australia, but none of the local shops had anything. Repco told me> there was a special volvo tool but they probably wouldn't sell one to me.>


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