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CarGuru > Volvo > V50/S40 Day running lights 13 April 2005 13:59:22

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V50/S40 Day running lights

GeeGee 13 April 2005 13:59:22
 It says in the UK manual that daytime running lights can be turned off by
your Volvo dealer. Does anybody know how to do this or does it require
special tools?

TIA


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Bob W. 5 April 2005 02:05:38 permanent link ]
 Your dealer must download software from Volvo to turn them off. Here in the
US it cost me about $85. Don't know if it costs more if you want them
turned back on.

Bob W.
"GeeGee" <goldiegee@hotmail.­com> wrote in message
news:d2scnp$ms1$1@n­ewsg3.svr.pol.co.uk.­..> It says in the UK manual that daytime running lights can be turned off by> your Volvo dealer. Does anybody know how to do this or does it require> special tools?>


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Peter K L Milnes 5 April 2005 03:39:17 permanent link ]
 Save yourself the money and leave them alone. You do NOT save anything by
turning them off. They are dimmed/dipped lights so run at about a quarter of
normal dipped power.

Cheers, Peter.

"Bob W." <bleew@columbus.dro­pthis.rr.com> wrote in message
news:SSi4e.9769$Fh4­.491@fe2.columbus.rr­.com...> Your dealer must download software from Volvo to turn them off. Here in > the> US it cost me about $85. Don't know if it costs more if you want them> turned back on.>
Bob W.> "GeeGee" <goldiegee@hotmail.­com> wrote in message> news:d2scnp$ms1$1@n­ewsg3.svr.pol.co.uk.­..>> It says in the UK manual that daytime running lights can be turned off by>> your Volvo dealer. Does anybody know how to do this or does it require>> special tools?>>


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Jeff Spenader 5 April 2005 06:36:32 permanent link ]
 Isn't there a middle position on the light switch on UK models? That turns
off the daytime running lights on the US model, and is a darn sight less
trouble than taking it to the dealer for a software upgrade.
"GeeGee" <goldiegee@hotmail.­com> wrote in message
news:d2scnp$ms1$1@n­ewsg3.svr.pol.co.uk.­..> It says in the UK manual that daytime running lights can be turned off by> your Volvo dealer. Does anybody know how to do this or does it require> special tools?>


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GeeGee 5 April 2005 17:08:31 permanent link ]
 My car has BiXenons so I was just thinking of the cost of bulb replacement.
Does constant use reduce bulb life significantly?


"Peter K L Milnes" <Peter.K.L.Milnes@b­tinternet.com> wrote in message
news:d2sj75$ck6$1@h­ercules.btinternet.c­om...> Save yourself the money and leave them alone. You do NOT save anything by > turning them off. They are dimmed/dipped lights so run at about a quarter > of normal dipped power.>
Cheers, Peter.>
"Bob W." <bleew@columbus.dro­pthis.rr.com> wrote in message > news:SSi4e.9769$Fh4­.491@fe2.columbus.rr­.com...>> Your dealer must download software from Volvo to turn them off. Here in >> the>> US it cost me about $85. Don't know if it costs more if you want them>> turned back on.>>
Bob W.>> "GeeGee" <goldiegee@hotmail.­com> wrote in message>> news:d2scnp$ms1$1@n­ewsg3.svr.pol.co.uk.­..>>> It says in the UK manual that daytime running lights can be turned off >>> by>>> your Volvo dealer. Does anybody know how to do this or does it require>>> special tools?>>>


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GeeGee 5 April 2005 17:10:21 permanent link ]
 Yes there is a middle position as you say, but as Volvo have not seen fit to
put in a lights on warning buzzer, I am likely to leave them on an flatten
the battery
"Jeff Spenader" <spenader@mindsprin­g.com> wrote in message
news:QQm4e.624$yq6.­379@newsread3.news.p­as.earthlink.net...>­ Isn't there a middle position on the light switch on UK models? That turns> off the daytime running lights on the US model, and is a darn sight less> trouble than taking it to the dealer for a software upgrade.> "GeeGee" <goldiegee@hotmail.­com> wrote in message> news:d2scnp$ms1$1@n­ewsg3.svr.pol.co.uk.­..>> It says in the UK manual that daytime running lights can be turned off by>> your Volvo dealer. Does anybody know how to do this or does it require>> special tools?>>


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Stephen Henning 5 April 2005 19:53:43 permanent link ]
 "GeeGee" <goldiegee@hotmail.­com> wrote:
I am likely to leave them on an flatten the battery

You can carry an air pump so you can inflate the battery after you
flatten it ;)

Actually the reason you don't hear a warning when you leave the "parking
lights" on is because they are meant to be left on when a car is
"parked" on the side of the road. Actually they are obsolete today
because people use the 4-way flashers which also don't have a warning
indicator.

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Cheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA USA
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John Wright 5 April 2005 20:00:59 permanent link ]
 

I have a an US model 03 XC70. I leave the lights "on" all of the time. That
is the lights are on when the ignition is on and the lights are off when the
ignition is off.

The reason is that the need for daylight running to as bright or brighter in
the day than at night. This is a SAFETY feature. Also I as far the lights
are concerned I turn the key and go. In fact driving is simple
seatbelt, key, drive, GO. Day or Night.

I have seen my share of dim bulbs who cannot drive with their lights on at
night, so Daylight Running Lights would be a rather obscure concept.

Sometime ago the Canada Safety Council was not pleased when the concept of
less brilliant lighting was invoked for Daylight Running lights by OEM's.

It is just a guess but I cannot imagine it working differently on the
V50/S40 but I am sure Ford has done stranger things before. Just trying to
help.

Cheers

G
"Jeff Spenader" <spenader@mindsprin­g.com> wrote in message
news:QQm4e.624$yq6.­379@newsread3.news.p­as.earthlink.net...>­ Isn't there a middle position on the light switch on UK models? That turns> off the daytime running lights on the US model, and is a darn sight less> trouble than taking it to the dealer for a software upgrade.> "GeeGee" <goldiegee@hotmail.­com> wrote in message> news:d2scnp$ms1$1@n­ewsg3.svr.pol.co.uk.­..>> It says in the UK manual that daytime running lights can be turned off by>> your Volvo dealer. Does anybody know how to do this or does it require>> special tools?>>


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GeeGee 5 April 2005 20:45:50 permanent link ]
 Yes, but my previous car (VW Passat) had parking lights and a buzzer. The
buzzer only worked when the door was open so you could leave parking lights
on without the buzzer going off all the time.


"Stephen Henning" <pighash@aol.com> wrote in message
news:p­ighash-80F426­.11534305042005@news­.isp.giganews.com...­> "GeeGee" <goldiegee@hotmail.­com> wrote:>
I am likely to leave them on an flatten the battery>
You can carry an air pump so you can inflate the battery after you> flatten it ;)>
Actually the reason you don't hear a warning when you leave the "parking> lights" on is because they are meant to be left on when a car is> "parked" on the side of the road. Actually they are obsolete today> because people use the 4-way flashers which also don't have a warning> indicator.>
-- > Pardon my spam deterrent; send email to rhodyman@earthlink.­net> Cheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA USA> http://home.earthli­nk.net/~rhodyman


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Byrocat 6 April 2005 00:16:58 permanent link ]
 "GeeGee" <goldiegee@hotmail.­com> wrote in message news:<d2u2o0$ie6$1@­newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk­>...> Yes there is a middle position as you say, but as Volvo have not seen fit to > put in a lights on warning buzzer, I am likely to leave them on an flatten > the battery

You should have no problems -- lights should be going off when you
turn off the engine. Flipping the high-beam with the engine off will
result in the high-beams being enabled for thirty seconds (enough time
for you to get out, lock the car and walk to your front door and find
the appropriate key but not enough to put the key in the door.....)

At least, that's how it works with my 1994 850 (no walk-light) and my
wife's 2002 S40
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Rob Guenther 6 April 2005 00:41:01 permanent link ]
 Aren't Bi-Xenon's suppose to pretty well last the life of the vehicle?

I know their life is a lot longer then halogen bulbs... Which tend to last
around 4 years or so in cars that run their lights at 100% intensity @ 20K
Kms per year or so.

I'd leave em on, Xenon's look cool for one, and it's safer when oncoming
cars want to see you from a distance... Maybe you live where there is a lot
of sun, but even so you car is way more visible from a long distance away
with lights on.
"GeeGee" <goldiegee@hotmail.­com> wrote in message
news:d2u2kj$1j3$1@n­ews7.svr.pol.co.uk..­.> My car has BiXenons so I was just thinking of the cost of bulb > replacement. Does constant use reduce bulb life significantly?>
"Peter K L Milnes" <Peter.K.L.Milnes@b­tinternet.com> wrote in message > news:d2sj75$ck6$1@h­ercules.btinternet.c­om...>> Save yourself the money and leave them alone. You do NOT save anything by >> turning them off. They are dimmed/dipped lights so run at about a quarter >> of normal dipped power.>>
Cheers, Peter.>>
"Bob W." <bleew@columbus.dro­pthis.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:SSi4e.9769$Fh4­.491@fe2.columbus.rr­.com...>>> Your dealer must download software from Volvo to turn them off. Here in >>> the>>> US it cost me about $85. Don't know if it costs more if you want them>>> turned back on.>>>
Bob W.>>> "GeeGee" <goldiegee@hotmail.­com> wrote in message>>> news:d2scnp$ms1$1@n­ewsg3.svr.pol.co.uk.­..>>>> It says in the UK manual that daytime running lights can be turned off >>>> by>>>> your Volvo dealer. Does anybody know how to do this or does it require>>>> special tools?>>>>


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GeeGee 6 April 2005 11:25:46 permanent link ]
 
I have found a more model specific forum at WWW.Swedespeed.com where there
has been a long debate on this very subject.
The main concern seems to be that when you turn the key, the Xenons light
,then go off while the strarter is running then back on again, thus on/off
twice at every ignition. This can potentially put strain on the components
in the car's electrical system, and Xenons can wear out more quickly if
switched on and off.
As Bob W says above, volvo can do it with software but they charge.
"Rob Guenther" <robertguenther@nos­pamsympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:p­JC4e.5001$6k4­.497729@news20.bellg­lobal.com...> Aren't Bi-Xenon's suppose to pretty well last the life of the vehicle?>
I know their life is a lot longer then halogen bulbs... Which tend to last > around 4 years or so in cars that run their lights at 100% intensity @ 20K > Kms per year or so.>
I'd leave em on, Xenon's look cool for one, and it's safer when oncoming > cars want to see you from a distance... Maybe you live where there is a > lot of sun, but even so you car is way more visible from a long distance > away with lights on.> "GeeGee" <goldiegee@hotmail.­com> wrote in message > news:d2u2kj$1j3$1@n­ews7.svr.pol.co.uk..­.>> My car has BiXenons so I was just thinking of the cost of bulb >> replacement. Does constant use reduce bulb life significantly?>>
"Peter K L Milnes" <Peter.K.L.Milnes@b­tinternet.com> wrote in message >> news:d2sj75$ck6$1@h­ercules.btinternet.c­om...>>> Save yourself the money and leave them alone. You do NOT save anything >>> by turning them off. They are dimmed/dipped lights so run at about a >>> quarter of normal dipped power.>>>
Cheers, Peter.>>>
"Bob W." <bleew@columbus.dro­pthis.rr.com> wrote in message >>> news:SSi4e.9769$Fh4­.491@fe2.columbus.rr­.com...>>>> Your dealer must download software from Volvo to turn them off. Here >>>> in the>>>> US it cost me about $85. Don't know if it costs more if you want them>>>> turned back on.>>>>
Bob W.>>>> "GeeGee" <goldiegee@hotmail.­com> wrote in message>>>> news:d2scnp$ms1$1@n­ewsg3.svr.pol.co.uk.­..>>>>> It says in the UK manual that daytime running lights can be turned off >>>>> by>>>>> your Volvo dealer. Does anybody know how to do this or does it require>>>>> special tools?>>>>>


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Peter K L Milnes 7 April 2005 03:14:29 permanent link ]
 Even the Xenon types should have a series resistor to lower their power when
used in daylight conditions. It works perfectly for other lighting systems.
Being an Aicraft Electrician by trade I disregard any statements that say
similar to " can potentially put strain on electrical components".
They are far more robust than you could imagine.

Cheers, Peter.

GeeGee" <goldiegee@hotmail.­com> wrote in message
news:d302tv$2ei$1@n­ewsg4.svr.pol.co.uk.­..>
I have found a more model specific forum at WWW.Swedespeed.com where there > has been a long debate on this very subject.> The main concern seems to be that when you turn the key, the Xenons light > ,then go off while the strarter is running then back on again, thus on/off > twice at every ignition. This can potentially put strain on the components > in the car's electrical system, and Xenons can wear out more quickly if > switched on and off.> As Bob W says above, volvo can do it with software but they charge.

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Rob Guenther 7 April 2005 03:44:44 permanent link ]
 Xenon lights don't even have a filament to burn out, do they? I thought they
were a gas discharge light (similar to fluorescent and metal halide
etc...) - Meaning they should be able to handle many cyclings on and off...
at the expense of potentially the balast after years of use.

Get technical if you'd like, I'm an Industrial Electrician
(controls/mechatron­ics/robotics... apprentice right now, but 2 years into
corporate training... so we cover tons of theory - we did gas discharge
lighting theory last year, and I forgot most of it)
"Peter K L Milnes" <Peter.K.L.Milnes@b­tinternet.com> wrote in message
news:d31qgl$mf0$1@s­parta.btinternet.com­...> Even the Xenon types should have a series resistor to lower their power > when used in daylight conditions. It works perfectly for other lighting > systems. Being an Aicraft Electrician by trade I disregard any statements > that say similar to " can potentially put strain on electrical > components".> They are far more robust than you could imagine.>
Cheers, Peter.>
GeeGee" <goldiegee@hotmail.­com> wrote in message > news:d302tv$2ei$1@n­ewsg4.svr.pol.co.uk.­..>>
I have found a more model specific forum at WWW.Swedespeed.com where >> there has been a long debate on this very subject.>> The main concern seems to be that when you turn the key, the Xenons light >> ,then go off while the strarter is running then back on again, thus >> on/off twice at every ignition. This can potentially put strain on the >> components in the car's electrical system, and Xenons can wear out more >> quickly if switched on and off.>> As Bob W says above, volvo can do it with software but they charge.>
<snipped>>


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GeeGee 7 April 2005 17:28:26 permanent link ]
 Yes, you are both right.
Apparently, the US manual states that the lights should run on halogens
during the day and switch to Xenons when the built in twilight sensor
detects low light, but owners have confirmed this does not happen. It is not
mentioned in my UK manual.
However, the concern does seem to be around the ballast module which costs
around $2000 dollars to replace allegedly!! As an engineer also, I agree
with your sentiments - also you would think Volvo would have got it right by
now, this is not new technology!

It would be easier if this function was switched off to give the owner
choice. If you want to use daylight running then you could leave the light
switch on all the ime as the lights are still killed when the ignition key
is removed


"Rob Guenther" <robertguenther@nos­pamsympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:Cv_4e.18769$Fy­3.1066291@news20.bel­lglobal.com...> Xenon lights don't even have a filament to burn out, do they? I thought> they were a gas discharge light (similar to fluorescent and metal halide> etc...) - Meaning they should be able to handle many cyclings on and> off... at the expense of potentially the balast after years of use.>
Get technical if you'd like, I'm an Industrial Electrician> (controls/mechatron­ics/robotics... apprentice right now, but 2 years into> corporate training... so we cover tons of theory - we did gas discharge> lighting theory last year, and I forgot most of it)> "Peter K L Milnes" <Peter.K.L.Milnes@b­tinternet.com> wrote in message> news:d31qgl$mf0$1@s­parta.btinternet.com­...>> Even the Xenon types should have a series resistor to lower their power>> when used in daylight conditions. It works perfectly for other lighting>> systems. Being an Aicraft Electrician by trade I disregard any statements>> that say similar to " can potentially put strain on electrical>> components".>> They are far more robust than you could imagine.>>
Cheers, Peter.>>
GeeGee" <goldiegee@hotmail.­com> wrote in message>> news:d302tv$2ei$1@n­ewsg4.svr.pol.co.uk.­..>>>
I have found a more model specific forum at WWW.Swedespeed.com where>>> there has been a long debate on this very subject.>>> The main concern seems to be that when you turn the key, the Xenons>>> light ,then go off while the strarter is running then back on again,>>> thus on/off twice at every ignition. This can potentially put strain on>>> the components in the car's electrical system, and Xenons can wear out>>> more quickly if switched on and off.>>> As Bob W says above, volvo can do it with software but they charge.>>
<snipped>>>






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Manu T 9 April 2005 04:54:04 permanent link ]
 That's odd. My V40 manual says that daytime-running lights can be switched
of using the rotary switch at power on combinded with the lights-handle. (I
believe you turn the ratory switch to full on while pulling the handle
towards you.) This combination is a togle switch.

I played with it and now my lights remain off until I dail the rotary switch
to either city-lights or full lights.

hope this helps,

Manu T

"GeeGee" <goldiegee@hotmail.­com> schreef in bericht
news:d2scnp$ms1$1@n­ewsg3.svr.pol.co.uk.­..> It says in the UK manual that daytime running lights can be turned off by> your Volvo dealer. Does anybody know how to do this or does it require> special tools?>


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GeeGee 13 April 2005 13:59:22 permanent link ]
 Sounds interesting - I tried it with no success. I think the V50 is very
different to the V40
"Manu T" <manu-t@easynet.be>­ wrote in message
news:425727bc$0$182­1$6c56d894@reader0.n­ews.be.easynet.net..­.> That's odd. My V40 manual says that daytime-running lights can be switched> of using the rotary switch at power on combinded with the lights-handle. > (I> believe you turn the ratory switch to full on while pulling the handle> towards you.) This combination is a togle switch.>
I played with it and now my lights remain off until I dail the rotary > switch> to either city-lights or full lights.>
hope this helps,>
Manu T>
"GeeGee" <goldiegee@hotmail.­com> schreef in bericht> news:d2scnp$ms1$1@n­ewsg3.svr.pol.co.uk.­..>> It says in the UK manual that daytime running lights can be turned off by>> your Volvo dealer. Does anybody know how to do this or does it require>> special tools?>>


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