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CarGuru > Volkswagen > Trouble with third gear 22 April 2005 04:59:18

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Trouble with third gear
Joe Gliebe 13 April 2005 00:09:43
	Here is one for you....I am using a bug transmission with a cable shifter tin my Beck Spyder hat has worked really well. Recently, however, I has been getting more difficult going from second to third. A few times I could not finesse it in at all. I have to rev high and shift from second to third rapidly, not hard, rapidly. It downshifts great from fourth to third however. All other gears work well. Any ideas. If it was the syncro it should still go in if I match rpm with speed, and it would make a difference downshifting to third also I would think/ Questions? Answers? it is a swing axel by the way. Clutch is excellent, etc. Thanks, Joe Gliebe
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Speedy Jim 13 April 2005 00:16:54 [ permanent link ]
	Joe Gliebe wrote: Here is one for you....I am using a bug transmission with a cable shifter > tin my Beck Spyder hat has worked really well. Recently, however, I has > been getting more difficult going from second to third. A few times I could > not finesse it in at all. I have to rev high and shift from second to third > rapidly, not hard, rapidly. It downshifts great from fourth to third > however. All other gears work well.> Any ideas. If it was the syncro it should still go in if I match rpm with > speed, and it would make a difference downshifting to third also I would > think/> Questions? Answers?> it is a swing axel by the way. Clutch is excellent, etc.> Thanks,> Joe Gliebe > Yeah; doesn't sound like synchro. Suppose the cable mech is not "rotating" the shift lever (inner) quite enough for 3rd. It may stall then between the 2/3 and 3/4 selectors. Can you get at the front of the nosecone to watch the rotation while shifting? Speedy Jim http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/
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Joe Gliebe 14 April 2005 15:13:04 [ permanent link ]
	I certainly can, it is literally in the open since it is in the back of the car. I will try that and get back to you.......I know the cables are free, may even be overrotating it,,,,, Joe "Speedy Jim" <volks@nls.net> wrote in message news:538ee$425c280f$d8900a77$4636@NLS.NET...> Joe Gliebe wrote:> Here is one for you....I am using a bug transmission with a cable shifter >> tin my Beck Spyder hat has worked really well. Recently, however, I has >> been getting more difficult going from second to third. A few times I >> could not finesse it in at all. I have to rev high and shift from second >> to third rapidly, not hard, rapidly. It downshifts great from fourth to >> third however. All other gears work well.>> Any ideas. If it was the syncro it should still go in if I match rpm >> with speed, and it would make a difference downshifting to third also I >> would think/>> Questions? Answers?>> it is a swing axel by the way. Clutch is excellent, etc.>> Thanks,>> Joe Gliebe> Yeah; doesn't sound like synchro.> Suppose the cable mech is not "rotating" the> shift lever (inner) quite enough for 3rd.> It may stall then between the 2/3 and 3/4> selectors.> Can you get at the front of the nosecone to> watch the rotation while shifting?> Speedy Jim> http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/
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Busahaulic 16 April 2005 20:00:22 [ permanent link ]
	Are such cable shifter setups available somewhere? -BaH "Joe Gliebe" <jcarrer1@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:Abs7e.67395$vK6.42706@bignews3.bellsouth.net...> I certainly can, it is literally in the open since it is in the back of car. I will try that and get back to you.......I know the cables are free,> may even be overrotating it,,,,,> "Speedy Jim" <volks@nls.net> wrote in message> news:538ee$425c280f$d8900a77$4636@NLS.NET...> > Joe Gliebe wrote:> > Here is one for you....I am using a bug transmission with a cable shifter> >> tin my Beck Spyder hat has worked really well. Recently, however, I been getting more difficult going from second to third. A few times I> >> could not finesse it in at all. I have to rev high and shift from second> >> to third rapidly, not hard, rapidly. It downshifts great from fourth third however. All other gears work well.> >> Any ideas. If it was the syncro it should still go in if I match rpm> >> with speed, and it would make a difference downshifting to third also I> >> would think/> >> Questions? Answers?> >> it is a swing axel by the way. Clutch is excellent, etc.> >> Thanks,> >> Joe Gliebe> > Yeah; doesn't sound like synchro.> > Suppose the cable mech is not "rotating" the> > shift lever (inner) quite enough for 3rd.> > It may stall then between the 2/3 and 3/4> > selectors.> > Can you get at the front of the nosecone to> > watch the rotation while shifting?> > Speedy Jim> > http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/>
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Guest 22 April 2005 04:59:18 [ permanent link ]
	This is tricky, especially for those not familiar with cable shifters. As in all things that move, some metal wear will occur, same goes for the moving parts of a cable shifter and everything else that moves to shift gears in the tranny. Looks like a small amount of wear on this system amounts to an non-proportional effect on the movement in the tranny shift mechanism. Looks like the rotation was just a little too much and I was shifting as before over rotating the mechanism in the nosecone. After several disassemblies and reassemblies, I finally got it back to where it was before and do not expect this to happen again anytime soon, since the parts have now been "worn in". Thanks for the clue about "rotation" Speedy Jim. That was the key. I now REALLY understand this system. Joe Gliebe 550 Spyder 1914 with 40mm dual webers 110 cam MOFOCO 044 heads and all other appropriate mods. Now to concentrate on my cooling system Joe
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