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a bit of bad luck
Howard Rose 28 March 2005 15:41:22
	http://www.howard81.co.uk/upload/vz/glj_crash_01.JPG http://www.howard81.co.uk/upload/vz/glj_crash_02.JPG http://www.howard81.co.uk/upload/vz/glj_crash_03.JPG http://www.howard81.co.uk/upload/vz/glj_crash_04.JPG Totally my fault, I lost control at a roundabout (sneezed) and demolished a flowerbed and ended up in the central barrier. Result: one mashed '66, and a slightly pissed off me... At least I am alive, I very nearly ended up in a drainage channel :-o If anyone in the south UK has a NOS front wing and headlight... Off to the bodyshop tomorrow (aircooled specialists) to see what they have to say about the front quarter - I hope it can be fixed without too much trouble. The problem is that crease, and I can't get the spare wheel out now without deflating it (165 tyre was a tight squeeze anyway). bugger bugger bugger -- Howard Rose 1966 VW Beetle 1300 Deluxe 1962 Austin Mini Deluxe 1964 Austin Mini Super Deluxe http://www.howard81.co.uk/ (cars on website)
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Tim Rogers 28 March 2005 16:39:22 [ permanent link ]
	"Howard Rose" <austinmini62NOSPAM@lycos.co.uk> wrote in message news:larf411scbfvcd546hp362m7qdvj6iaocb@4ax.com...> If anyone in the south UK has a NOS front wing and headlight...> Off to the bodyshop tomorrow (aircooled specialists) to see what they> have to say about the front quarter - I hope it can be fixed without> too much trouble. The problem is that crease, and I can't get the> spare wheel out now without deflating it (165 tyre was a tight squeeze> anyway).> ..............I have a '70 bug sitting in my backyard that has an almost identical crease in the same left front quarter panel. Unfortunately, from what I've learned from others it is difficult to pull that panel forward and at the same time eliminate that crease. The impact that did this on my '70, also bent the axle beam assembly and the framehead. If I had known how difficult it was going to be to replace a framehead and a front quarter panel, I would have never paid what I did for that bug several years ago. Your '66 is well worth fixing though. Maybe the shop that you're going to do can give you a better prognosis. Just be sure that they don't try use plastic body filler to hide that crease. The only real fix is to either straighten that panel or replace it.
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Dennis Wik 28 March 2005 16:51:34 [ permanent link ]
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Howard Rose 28 March 2005 16:56:52 [ permanent link ]
	On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:39:22 -0500, "Tim Rogers" <thr@stny.rr.com> wrote: ..............I have a '70 bug sitting in my backyard that has an almost>identical crease in the same left front quarter panel. Unfortunately, from>what I've learned from others it is difficult to pull that panel forward and>at the same time eliminate that crease. The impact that did this on my '70,>also bent the axle beam assembly and the framehead. If I had known how>difficult it was going to be to replace a framehead and a front quarter>panel, I would have never paid what I did for that bug several years ago.>Your '66 is well worth fixing though. Maybe the shop that you're going to do>can give you a better prognosis. Just be sure that they don't try use>plastic body filler to hide that crease. The only real fix is to either>straighten that panel or replace it.> Thanks, Tim... I will be sure that if the front quarter cannot be beaten back to shape, then it it will be replaced with a NOS one if I can find it... The shop that I am hoping will do the repair for me is the aircooled specialist who restored the car for me back in 1998, so they know how fussy I am he he I am going to see them on Tuesday, so will see what they have to say about that. I was really lucky, the beam and suspension do not appear to have been hit at all. Aside from a little leftward pull on braking the car drives just as it did before. One of the most annoying things is that I had just spend most of my Easter weekend polishing and preparing my car to take to the first car show of the year. I was on my way to that show when I had the accident -- Howard Rose 1966 VW Beetle 1300 Deluxe 1962 Austin Mini Deluxe 1964 Austin Mini Super Deluxe http://www.howard81.co.uk/ (cars on website)
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Tim Rogers 28 March 2005 17:14:04 [ permanent link ]
	"Howard Rose" <austinmini62NOSPAM@lycos.co.uk> wrote in message news:i8vf41942ovkinhqobuk3t93adcgu8cot0@4ax.com...> I was really lucky, the beam and suspension do not appear to have been> hit at all. Aside from a little leftward pull on braking the car> drives just as it did before.> ................Be sure that the axle beam and framehead are examined very closely. I missed the damage to them when I bought my '70. I didn't realise what had been damaged aside from the quarter panel and front apron until I placed a straight edge along the bottom beam and I still didn't figure out that the framedhead was bent until I installed a new axle beam and measured the distance specs from the front spindles to the same corresponding place on each side of the pan. The axle beam assembly and framehead are quite strong until they get hit frontally on one side like that. When I drove my '70 after I first purchased it, I didn't think that there were any major problems with the front suspension either.
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Howard Rose 28 March 2005 17:46:09 [ permanent link ]
	On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 08:14:04 -0500, "Tim Rogers" <thr@stny.rr.com> wrote: ................Be sure that the axle beam and framehead are examined very>closely. I missed the damage to them when I bought my '70. I didn't realise>what had been damaged aside from the quarter panel and front apron until I>placed a straight edge along the bottom beam and I still didn't figure out>that the framedhead was bent until I installed a new axle beam and measured>the distance specs from the front spindles to the same corresponding place>on each side of the pan. The axle beam assembly and framehead are quite>strong until they get hit frontally on one side like that. When I drove my>'70 after I first purchased it, I didn't think that there were any major>problems with the front suspension either. Thanks... I've checked it as best I can (wheel centre to wheel centre on both sides), but I will get the restoration shop to have it checked too... Fingers crossed......... -- Howard Rose 1966 VW Beetle 1300 Deluxe 1962 Austin Mini Deluxe 1964 Austin Mini Super Deluxe http://www.howard81.co.uk/ (cars on website)
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Michael Cecil 28 March 2005 21:55:46 [ permanent link ]
	On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:39:24 +0100, Howard Rose <austinmini62NOSPAM@lycos.co.uk> wrote: http://www.howard81.co.uk/upload/vz/glj_crash_01.JPG>http://www.howard81.co.uk/upload/vz/glj_crash_02.JPG>http://www.howard81.co.uk/upload/vz/glj_crash_03.JPG>http://www.howard81.co.uk/upload/vz/glj_crash_04.JPG> Totally my fault, I lost control at a roundabout (sneezed) and>demolished a flowerbed and ended up in the central barrier.> Result: one mashed '66, and a slightly pissed off me...>At least I am alive, I very nearly ended up in a drainage channel :-o> If anyone in the south UK has a NOS front wing and headlight...> Off to the bodyshop tomorrow (aircooled specialists) to see what they>have to say about the front quarter - I hope it can be fixed without>too much trouble. The problem is that crease, and I can't get the>spare wheel out now without deflating it (165 tyre was a tight squeeze>anyway).> bugger bugger bugger Oh sorry man. At least it looks mostly fixable. Good thing you weren't hurt. -- Michael Cecil http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/ 1970 VW Beetle "Millennium Sparrow"
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Tom Nakashima 28 March 2005 22:26:37 [ permanent link ]
	"Michael Cecil" <macecil@comcast.net> wrote in message news:n7hg4196rnc266ecasmie3bb8ajcn9tta0@4ax.com...> On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:39:24 +0100, Howard Rose> <austinmini62NOSPAM@lycos.co.uk> wrote:> http://www.howard81.co.uk/upload/vz/glj_crash_01.JPG> >http://www.howard81.co.uk/upload/vz/glj_crash_02.JPG> >http://www.howard81.co.uk/upload/vz/glj_crash_03.JPG> >http://www.howard81.co.uk/upload/vz/glj_crash_04.JPG> > Totally my fault, I lost control at a roundabout (sneezed) and> >demolished a flowerbed and ended up in the central barrier.> > Result: one mashed '66, and a slightly pissed off me...> >At least I am alive, I very nearly ended up in a drainage channel :-o> > If anyone in the south UK has a NOS front wing and headlight...> > Off to the bodyshop tomorrow (aircooled specialists) to see what they> >have to say about the front quarter - I hope it can be fixed without> >too much trouble. The problem is that crease, and I can't get the> >spare wheel out now without deflating it (165 tyre was a tight squeeze> >anyway).> > bugger bugger bugger > Oh sorry man. At least it looks mostly fixable. Good thing you weren't> hurt.> -- > Michael Cecil> http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/> 1970 VW Beetle "Millennium Sparrow" Howard, sorry to hear about your misfortunes on your '66. Aside from your accident, our cars look identical, except for the right hand drive, European bumpers and my interior is red. I'm happy that you're getting her repaired. One my goals in life ,is visit Europe with my '66 Beetle, and my 1977 roadbike. I would love to drive Ireland and England, and ride my bike around France & Italy during the Tour de France.
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Howard Rose 28 March 2005 23:53:11 [ permanent link ]
	On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:26:37 -0800, "Tom Nakashima" <tom@slac.stanford.edu> wrote: Howard, sorry to hear about your misfortunes on your '66. Aside from your>accident, our cars look identical, except for the right hand drive, European>bumpers and my interior is red. I'm happy that you're getting her repaired.>One my goals in life ,is visit Europe with my '66 Beetle, and my 1977>roadbike. I would love to drive Ireland and England, and ride my bike>around France & Italy during the Tour de France.> Actually Tom, my '66 does have the red interior too - I just have the "winter" aftermarket covers over the seats at the moment to protect them If you do ever visit Europe in your '66 do let me know, it would be pretty cool to meet a "twin"! It is also something I have always wanted to do, one day I wish I can take my car back to the Wolfsburg factory. -- Howard Rose 1966 VW Beetle 1300 Deluxe 1962 Austin Mini Deluxe 1964 Austin Mini Super Deluxe http://www.howard81.co.uk/ (cars on website)
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Tom Nakashima 29 March 2005 00:46:20 [ permanent link ]
	"Howard Rose" <austinmini62NOSPAM@lycos.co.uk> wrote in message news:0vng419aa0nufedq0j25kd7sv1kc5ubb9a@4ax.com...> On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:26:37 -0800, "Tom Nakashima"> <tom@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:> > Actually Tom, my '66 does have the red interior too - I just have the> "winter" aftermarket covers over the seats at the moment to protect> them > If you do ever visit Europe in your '66 do let me know, it would be> pretty cool to meet a "twin"! It is also something I have always> wanted to do, one day I wish I can take my car back to the Wolfsburg> factory.> --> Howard Rose> 1966 VW Beetle 1300 Deluxe> 1962 Austin Mini Deluxe> 1964 Austin Mini Super Deluxe> http://www.howard81.co.uk/ (cars on website) Excellent! It's like looking at a mirror image. A lot of my friends tell me I should have purchased the '67, but I like the '66 with the glass over the headlights and the 1300 engine. 7.3 compression is perfect, gets the good gas mileage, and can burn the lower grade gas, with just enough power to enjoy the drive. I have a friend who drives a 1966 Porsche 912, he claims it was the last of good Porsche's. Did you convert your '66 to 12v? -tom
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Howard Rose 29 March 2005 01:04:53 [ permanent link ]
	On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:46:20 -0800, "Tom Nakashima" <tom@slac.stanford.edu> wrote: Excellent! It's like looking at a mirror image.>A lot of my friends tell me I should have purchased the '67, but I like the>'66 with the glass over the headlights and the 1300 engine. 7.3 compression>is perfect, gets the good gas mileage, and can burn the lower grade gas,>with just enough power to enjoy the drive.> I have a friend who drives a 1966 Porsche 912, he claims it was the last of>good Porsche's.>Did you convert your '66 to 12v?>-tom> Hi Tom, nope, my '66 is still 6v - I just took a lot of time and care to clean all of the contacts and earths up to ensure a perfect connection all around. And a new battery helps too! Projects for the summer is (was?) to rebuild the original dynamo (generator), I think the bearings are on their way out. '66 really is a nice year, the classic looks with the updated balljoint suspension and 1300 engine. I recently read that the 1965-1967 cars where some of the best VW built... -- Howard Rose 1966 VW Beetle 1300 Deluxe 1962 Austin Mini Deluxe 1964 Austin Mini Super Deluxe http://www.howard81.co.uk/ (cars on website)
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Howard Rose 29 March 2005 02:30:12 [ permanent link ]
	On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:13:42 -0500, "Tim Rogers" <thr@stny.rr.com> wrote: .............When do you graduate Howard? It seems like it's been>awhile....... Last exam is a 3-hour paper of "Internet Middleware and Applications" on the 23rd May 2005! At least, I hope so -- Howard Rose 1966 VW Beetle 1300 Deluxe 1962 Austin Mini Deluxe 1964 Austin Mini Super Deluxe http://www.howard81.co.uk/ (cars on website)
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Vassilis Spiliotopoulos 29 March 2005 16:45:43 [ permanent link ]
	Glad you are ok. The car doesn't look too bad. The Side pannel has minor damage and can be easily hammered back in to shape by a bodyshop that knows their job. The impact doens't look severe to damage the beam. It can easily be fixed to like new condition. I've seen much worse than yours being fixed without any traces. www.csp-shop.de still sells original Hella headlights of very good quality if you're interested (but you will have to swap the lens with a RHD one) Bill, '67 Bug. "Howard Rose" <austinmini62NOSPAM@lycos.co.uk> wrote in message news:i8vf41942ovkinhqobuk3t93adcgu8cot0@4ax.com...> On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:39:22 -0500, "Tim Rogers" <thr@stny.rr.com>> wrote:> ..............I have a '70 bug sitting in my backyard that has an almost>>identical crease in the same left front quarter panel. Unfortunately, from>>what I've learned from others it is difficult to pull that panel forward >>and>>at the same time eliminate that crease. The impact that did this on my >>'70,>>also bent the axle beam assembly and the framehead. If I had known how>>difficult it was going to be to replace a framehead and a front quarter>>panel, I would have never paid what I did for that bug several years ago.>>Your '66 is well worth fixing though. Maybe the shop that you're going to >>do>>can give you a better prognosis. Just be sure that they don't try use>>plastic body filler to hide that crease. The only real fix is to either>>straighten that panel or replace it.>> Thanks, Tim... I will be sure that if the front quarter cannot be> beaten back to shape, then it it will be replaced with a NOS one if I> can find it... The shop that I am hoping will do the repair for me is> the aircooled specialist who restored the car for me back in 1998, so> they know how fussy I am he he I am going to see them on Tuesday,> so will see what they have to say about that.> I was really lucky, the beam and suspension do not appear to have been> hit at all. Aside from a little leftward pull on braking the car> drives just as it did before.> One of the most annoying things is that I had just spend most of my> Easter weekend polishing and preparing my car to take to the first car> show of the year. I was on my way to that show when I had the> accident > --> Howard Rose> 1966 VW Beetle 1300 Deluxe> 1962 Austin Mini Deluxe> 1964 Austin Mini Super Deluxe> http://www.howard81.co.uk/ (cars on website)
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