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'tight' ingnition on a bus

Terry 23 March 2005 23:03:45
 I've got another situation with my '75 bus that is buggin' me.
When I am intending to start it and I slide the key into the ignition
and turn it, nothing happens until it sort of goes
'beyond' the 'start' position. In other words .. I turn it
to 'on' ... then I have to turn it REALLY HARD against
the stop to get it to fire up. Something tight -- or
too lose! -- in the ignition.... as if it's not 'connecting'
until I 'man-handle' it way beyond where I should have to.
Any thoughts on this?

Thanks!

Terry

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Terry 23 March 2005 23:03:46 permanent link ]
 I've got another situation with my '75 bus that is buggin' me.
When I am intending to start it and I slide the key into the ignition
and turn it, nothing happens until it sort of goes
'beyond' the 'start' position. In other words .. I turn it
to 'on' ... then I have to turn it REALLY HARD against
the stop to get it to fire up. Something tight -- or
too lose! -- in the ignition.... as if it's not 'connecting'
until I 'man-handle' it way beyond where I should have to.
Any thoughts on this?

Thanks!

Terry

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Remco 24 March 2005 00:55:52 permanent link ]
 Doesn't that just mean that you need a new ignition switch? Or are VWs
different that way? (I am a newbie to ACVW)

Something similar happened to me years ago in my old Subaru. Had to
really crank the key to start it -- I eventually snapped the key in the
ignition and had no choice but to start the car with a screwdriver.
I'd replace it soon (or carry a large screwdriver :)­

Remco

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Speedy Jim 24 March 2005 01:06:41 permanent link ]
 Terry wrote:> I've got another situation with my '75 bus that is buggin' me.> When I am intending to start it and I slide the key into the ignition> and turn it, nothing happens until it sort of goes> 'beyond' the 'start' position. In other words .. I turn it> to 'on' ... then I have to turn it REALLY HARD against> the stop to get it to fire up. Something tight -- or> too lose! -- in the ignition.... as if it's not 'connecting'> until I 'man-handle' it way beyond where I should have to.> Any thoughts on this?>
Thanks!>
Terry>
Your Ignition switch is giving you
fair warning! Suggest wiring in a
backup switch until you can replace it.

There is a good description in your Bentley
or:
http://homepage.mac­.com/ratwell/mirror/­bclausen/How_to_file­s/IgnSw/index.html

It is *NOT* a fun job.
Make an appointment with the Chiropractor ahead of time...

Speedy Jim
http://www.nls.net/­mp/volks/
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Busahaulic 24 March 2005 06:35:40 permanent link ]
 If you're not gonna use the bus for a few days, I found it much easier to
remove the entire steering column tube and work on it out in the open. The
Bentley manual has the exact measurements and specifications (and photos) of
what you need to do if you're replacing the lock mechanism. If I remember
correctly tho, you can replace the switch portion without messing with the
lock part (am I right on this, Jim? It's been sooo long!)

Otherwise the chiropractor advice is good!
-BaH
"Terry" <terimakasi2@yahoo.­com> wrote in message
news:1111604626.914­096.229250@o13g2000c­wo.googlegroups.com.­..> I've got another situation with my '75 bus that is buggin' me.> When I am intending to start it and I slide the key into the ignition> and turn it, nothing happens until it sort of goes> 'beyond' the 'start' position. In other words .. I turn it> to 'on' ... then I have to turn it REALLY HARD against> the stop to get it to fire up. Something tight -- or> too lose! -- in the ignition.... as if it's not 'connecting'> until I 'man-handle' it way beyond where I should have to.> Any thoughts on this?>
Thanks!>
Terry>


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Speedy Jim 24 March 2005 06:39:23 permanent link ]
 Busahaulic wrote:> If you're not gonna use the bus for a few days, I found it much easier to> remove the entire steering column tube and work on it out in the open. The> Bentley manual has the exact measurements and specifications (and photos) of> what you need to do if you're replacing the lock mechanism. If I remember> correctly tho, you can replace the switch portion without messing with the> lock part (am I right on this, Jim? It's been sooo long!)>
Otherwise the chiropractor advice is good!> -BaH

Yeah, but the whole thing gotta come out anyway. <ugh>
Jim
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BananaRepublican 24 March 2005 21:12:17 permanent link ]
 In article <12478$4241da63$d89­00a46$17812@NLS.NET>­,
Speedy Jim <volks@nls.net> wrote:
Any thoughts on this?

Maybe some graphite, shot in there?>
g adds.
MONEY , what a concept


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Terry 25 March 2005 01:31:30 permanent link ]
 I spoke briefly with a local mechanic and found out that you can VERY
EASILY install a starter button on (or beneath) the dash ... bypasses
all the muss and fuss. Since this is an old 'work van' which I have no
real love attraction to (my heart's been broken too many times by the
promises of these old buses!) I think that's the obviouse path for me.

Anyone have any links to the process of by-passing the ignition and
installing the starter switch!?

Thanks!

Terry

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Tim Rogers 25 March 2005 01:43:06 permanent link ]
 "Terry" <terimakasi2@yahoo.­com> wrote in message
news:1111699890.374­388.29230@z14g2000cw­z.googlegroups.com..­.>
I spoke briefly with a local mechanic and found out that you can VERY> EASILY install a starter button on (or beneath) the dash ... bypasses> all the muss and fuss. Since this is an old 'work van' which I have no> real love attraction to (my heart's been broken too many times by the> promises of these old buses!) I think that's the obviouse path for me.>
Anyone have any links to the process of by-passing the ignition and> installing the starter switch!?>

................Jus­t run some 12 gauge wire from the positive battery post
through a pushbutton switch and then to the same terminal on the starter
solenoid that is connected to the 'hot when cranking' wire from the ignition
switch. The switch that I use is rated for 50 amps and costs about $5 or $6
at Autozone. I haven't push started my bug once since I did this almost two
years ago..


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Shag 25 March 2005 02:09:10 permanent link ]
 On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:43:06 -0500, "Tim Rogers" <thr@stny.rr.com>
wrote:
"Terry" <terimakasi2@yahoo.­com> wrote in message>news:111169­9890.374388.29230@z1­4g2000cwz.googlegrou­ps.com...>>
I spoke briefly with a local mechanic and found out that you can VERY>> EASILY install a starter button on (or beneath) the dash ... bypasses>> all the muss and fuss. Since this is an old 'work van' which I have no>> real love attraction to (my heart's been broken too many times by the>> promises of these old buses!) I think that's the obviouse path for me.>>
Anyone have any links to the process of by-passing the ignition and>> installing the starter switch!?>>
................Ju­st run some 12 gauge wire from the positive battery post>through a pushbutton switch and then to the same terminal on the starter>solenoid that is connected to the 'hot when cranking' wire from the ignition>switch. The switch that I use is rated for 50 amps and costs about $5 or $6>at Autozone. I haven't push started my bug once since I did this almost two>years ago..>

I did the same thing on a couple of bugs I've owned, just for the
"cool factor" of having a push-button start. :-)­


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"There's nothing wrong with a little shooting as long as the right people get shot."
- Inspector Harry Callahan
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Speedy Jim 25 March 2005 02:20:30 permanent link ]
 Terry wrote:
I spoke briefly with a local mechanic and found out that you can VERY> EASILY install a starter button on (or beneath) the dash ... bypasses> all the muss and fuss. Since this is an old 'work van' which I have no> real love attraction to (my heart's been broken too many times by the> promises of these old buses!) I think that's the obviouse path for me.>
Anyone have any links to the process of by-passing the ignition and> installing the starter switch!?>
Thanks!>
Terry>
The switch has these wires:

Red
Blk
Blk/Yell
Red/Blk

Splice into the Red and the Red/Blk.
Put your pushbutton between those 2 wires.

That will allow the Ign key to still control
Ignition, Acc, and Headlights.
(If the rest of the switch goes bad, you can
just add more toggle switches to the dash:-)­

Speedy Jim
http://www.nls.net/­mp/volks/
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