Please help me bring my 77 bus out of "retirement"

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Please help me bring my 77 bus out of "retirement"
Mez 12 March 2005 20:44:02
	short version: I'm scared to drive my bus for the first time since last summer or fall because I'm sure the oil has all drained out of the engine. Can I just try to turn it by hand a few times or is do I need to do something I'm probably going to be very nervous about doing since I'm not mechanically inclined? I doubt this detail is relevant, but I'll include it - I have a 78 engine (a great advantage to someone who isn't mechanically inclined). long version: I began driving my bus a less often as gas prices creeped up and creeped me out. I drove it for the first time in a couple of months, drove it fairly often because it's so much more pleasant to drive than a Lumina, and it suddenly had an electrical problem and was stuck at lunch and had to get a ride back to work. I had it towed, there was some small problem which only cost ~$15 to have repaired (I got the impression that the mechanic couldn't find a problem and just charged me for his time), and I didn't drive it for a while because I was very busy with work and didn't want to risk getting stuck somewhere. Eventually I couldn't resist taking my chances and doggonit the battery was dead! I realized that there must be some sort of short draining the battery. Well, I was always getting home after dark and working on weekends and wishing like mad that my boss hadn't agreed to do this project for a small fraction of what we should have charged because I really needed money for all of the time I was putting in. I never felt like dragging the battery charger out to the bus when I got home. So my bus sat for a couple of months before I got around to charging the battery. Eventually I did drag the extension cord and the charger out there and low and behold! It seems that I probably don't have a short after all. The reason I was getting absolutely no power from the battery is that my battery has been stolen! Well, that left me discouraged and I didn't have time to get a new battery in there for a few months more. Now I have a battery but I'm scared to drive the bus because I'm sure the oil has all drained out of the engine. Thanks, Mez
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Jjs 12 March 2005 21:17:30 [ permanent link ]
	"mez" <michael@pdn.net> wrote in message news:michael-DC5399.11435912032005@news.easynews.com...> short version: I'm scared to drive my bus for the first time since last> summer or fall because I'm sure the oil has all drained out of the> engine. So check the oil and add some if necessary.
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Speedy Jim 12 March 2005 22:19:33 [ permanent link ]
	mez wrote: short version: I'm scared to drive my bus for the first time since last > summer or fall because I'm sure the oil has all drained out of the > engine. Can I just try to turn it by hand a few times or is do I need to > do something I'm probably going to be very nervous about doing since I'm > not mechanically inclined? I doubt this detail is relevant, but I'll > include it - I have a 78 engine (a great advantage to someone who isn't > mechanically inclined).> long version: I began driving my bus a less often as gas prices creeped > up and creeped me out. I drove it for the first time in a couple of > months, drove it fairly often because it's so much more pleasant to > drive than a Lumina, and it suddenly had an electrical problem and was > stuck at lunch and had to get a ride back to work. I had it towed, there > was some small problem which only cost ~$15 to have repaired (I got the > impression that the mechanic couldn't find a problem and just charged me > for his time), and I didn't drive it for a while because I was very busy > with work and didn't want to risk getting stuck somewhere. Eventually I > couldn't resist taking my chances and doggonit the battery was dead! I > realized that there must be some sort of short draining the battery.> Well, I was always getting home after dark and working on weekends and > wishing like mad that my boss hadn't agreed to do this project for a > small fraction of what we should have charged because I really needed > money for all of the time I was putting in. I never felt like dragging > the battery charger out to the bus when I got home. So my bus sat for a > couple of months before I got around to charging the battery.> Eventually I did drag the extension cord and the charger out there and > low and behold! It seems that I probably don't have a short after all. > The reason I was getting absolutely no power from the battery is that my > battery has been stolen! Well, that left me discouraged and I didn't > have time to get a new battery in there for a few months more. Now I > have a battery but I'm scared to drive the bus because I'm sure the oil > has all drained out of the engine.> Thanks,> Mez
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Speedy Jim 12 March 2005 22:22:14 [ permanent link ]
	mez wrote: short version: I'm scared to drive my bus for the first time since last > summer or fall because I'm sure the oil has all drained out of the > engine. Can I just try to turn it by hand a few times or is do I need to > do something I'm probably going to be very nervous about doing since I'm > not mechanically inclined? I doubt this detail is relevant, but I'll > include it - I have a 78 engine (a great advantage to someone who isn't > mechanically inclined). OOOps! Hit send too soon. <SNIP> Well, I have a '78 Bus with a '77 engine. So, there... Your '78 has hydraulic lifters. It may take them a while to "pump up". So if you hear a lot of tapping and clacking, don't be overly alarmed. (Loved the story about the battery!) Speedy Jim http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/
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Jan Andersson 12 March 2005 22:34:47 [ permanent link ]
	Speedy Jim wrote:> mez wrote:> short version: I'm scared to drive my bus for the first time since last> > summer or fall because I'm sure the oil has all drained out of the> > engine. Can I just try to turn it by hand a few times or is do I need to> > do something I'm probably going to be very nervous about doing since I'm> > not mechanically inclined? I doubt this detail is relevant, but I'll> > include it - I have a 78 engine (a great advantage to someone who isn't> > mechanically inclined).> OOOps! Hit send too soon.> <SNIP>> Well, I have a '78 Bus with a '77 engine. So, there...> Your '78 has hydraulic lifters. It may take them a while> to "pump up". So if you hear a lot of tapping and clacking, don't> be overly alarmed.> (Loved the story about the battery!)> Speedy Jim> http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/ Not all 78's have hydraulics. Not all of them have FI either. Mine had carbs and solid lifters. Jan
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Busahaulic 12 March 2005 23:16:30 [ permanent link ]
	"Jan Andersson" <bugfuel@rocketcom.mail> wrote in message news:42333647.280BA52@rocketcom.mail...> Speedy Jim wrote:> > mez wrote:> > <<><SNIPPETY-SNIP>>>> Not all 78's have hydraulics. Not all of them have FI either. Mine had> carbs and solid lifters.> Jan Just another example of we Americans assuming everybody that has or does is working on U.S. specs! -BaH
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Kevin Holzer 12 March 2005 23:35:29 [ permanent link ]
	Well, they are American cars! Kidding. -Kevin
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Mez 12 March 2005 23:48:49 [ permanent link ]
	In article <ieHYd.129046$Th1.84339@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "Busahaulic" <busahaulic01@yahoo.remove.com> wrote: "Jan Andersson" <bugfuel@rocketcom.mail> wrote in message> news:42333647.280BA52@rocketcom.mail...> > Speedy Jim wrote:> > > mez wrote:> > > <<><SNIPPETY-SNIP>>>> > Not all 78's have hydraulics. Not all of them have FI either. Mine had> > carbs and solid lifters.> > Just another example of we Americans assuming everybody that has or does is> working on U.S. specs!> -BaH Well, it's actually not a U.S. bus - I bought it in Vancouver. It does, however, have the FI and hydraulic lifters. I'm glad to learn that I should be able to just start her up after around so many months sitting idle. I've spent the past few days in fear of tearing the engine apart trying to start it with insufficient lubrication.
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Jan Andersson 13 March 2005 00:34:06 [ permanent link ]
	Busahaulic wrote:> "Jan Andersson" <bugfuel@rocketcom.mail> wrote in message> news:42333647.280BA52@rocketcom.mail...> > Speedy Jim wrote:> > > mez wrote:> > > <<><SNIPPETY-SNIP>>>> > Not all 78's have hydraulics. Not all of them have FI either. Mine had> > carbs and solid lifters.> > Just another example of we Americans assuming everybody that has or does is> working on U.S. specs!> -BaH They were also available with the T1 1600 engine in 78. carburetted, of course, and with solid lifters. Fitted in the engine bay with special factory made engine tin to make up for the wide gap in the bay, because the T1 is so much smaller than the T4. But this is common knowledge, right? Jan
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Shag 13 March 2005 02:21:25 [ permanent link ]
	On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:34:06 +0200, Jan Andersson <bugfuel@rocketcom.mail> wrote: Busahaulic wrote:>> "Jan Andersson" <bugfuel@rocketcom.mail> wrote in message>> news:42333647.280BA52@rocketcom.mail...>> > Speedy Jim wrote:>> > > mez wrote:>> > > <<><SNIPPETY-SNIP>>>>> > Not all 78's have hydraulics. Not all of them have FI either. Mine had>> > carbs and solid lifters.>> > Just another example of we Americans assuming everybody that has or does is>> working on U.S. specs!>> -BaH> They were also available with the T1 1600 engine in 78. carburetted, of>course, and with solid lifters. >Fitted in the engine bay with special factory made engine tin to make up>for the wide gap in the bay, because the T1 is so much smaller than the>T4. > But this is common knowledge, right? > Jan Yes. cough --- "There's nothing wrong with a little shooting as long as the right people get shot." - Inspector Harry Callahan
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Mez 13 March 2005 07:07:37 [ permanent link ]
	In article <4233523E.E97AD2B4@rocketcom.mail>, Jan Andersson <bugfuel@rocketcom.mail> wrote: Busahaulic wrote:> > "Jan Andersson" <bugfuel@rocketcom.mail> wrote in message> > news:42333647.280BA52@rocketcom.mail...> > > Speedy Jim wrote:> > > > mez wrote:> > > > <<><SNIPPETY-SNIP>>>> > > Not all 78's have hydraulics. Not all of them have FI either. Mine had> > > carbs and solid lifters.> > > Just another example of we Americans assuming everybody that has or does is> > working on U.S. specs!> > -BaH> They were also available with the T1 1600 engine in 78. carburetted, of> course, and with solid lifters. > Fitted in the engine bay with special factory made engine tin to make up> for the wide gap in the bay, because the T1 is so much smaller than the> T4. > But this is common knowledge, right? > Jan So you did have a T4 engine? I suppose I've read that those were available on T2s in Europe, but I've completely forgotten it.
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