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Re: tips !

Red Bug 25 February 2005 03:57:38
 In article <Y2sTd.109$v85.37@n­ewsfe5-gui.ntli.net>­,
tricky <Tricky@handmade-f9­.co.uk> wrote:
On a similar note, once I had to remove a door from my split bus. The > hinge bolts have no heads -- you use a cross top screw driver.>
It appeared someone else had tried before me! Chewed up the top, no > grip for the screw driver.

You use an impact screwdriver (no, it doesn't go into your air gun)...

Each time you hit the tool at the back, it simultaneously advances and
rotates to loosen your screw. It's an old idea and such tools have been
around for a long time.

<http://www.brandso­nsale.com/impact-scr­ewdriver.html>

...and it is called PHILLIPS, not "cross top"! ;-)­ In addition, the
"square bit" ones are actually called ROBERTSON. Star ones are TORX.

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Red Bug 25 February 2005 06:01:07 permanent link ]
 In article <F1uTd.362$v85.268@­newsfe5-gui.ntli.net­>,
tricky <Tricky@handmade-f9­.co.uk> wrote:
some > people call them posidrive too. I think there is a slight difference in > the design of the "cross".

POSIDRIVE is a hack... only in the US! Different enough from Phillips
that when you get something with those screws, the standard Phillips
screwdriver doesn't quite fit well and the screw is buggered... Of
course, you can't buy a Posidrive screwdriver except in the US!

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Joey Tribiani 25 February 2005 06:43:47 permanent link ]
 
"Red Bug" <blocked@nospam.org­> wrote in message news:blocked- > POSIDRIVE is
a hack... only in the US! Different enough from Phillips> that when you get something with those screws, the standard Phillips> screwdriver doesn't quite fit well and the screw is buggered... Of> course, you can't buy a Posidrive screwdriver except in the US!>
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Posidriv system screws and bits are excellent...however­ you must use the
proper tool for the fastener no matter whether you are talking about screws,
bolts, nuts, women, etc... Posidriv was developed by the Phillips screw
company, which is the same company that developed the cross-head screw. The
also have a squaredrive system, which is not a "Robertson" drive..Robertson
is a commonly accepted term for sqaredrive screw systems, but is actually
just the name of the company that developed them, just as Phillips designed
the "phillips" screw system..just as all copy machines are not Xerox, all
cross heads are not "Phillips", all sqaredrives are not "Robertson", and all
blue concrete screws are not "tapcons"....


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Mike64Bug 25 February 2005 07:33:21 permanent link ]
 I've heard people refer to the posidrive screws as a "blunt point phillips" which isn't entirely accurate of course.
You can sometimes grind down the point on an old phillips screwdriver and get a somewhat better fit. (I bought the
correct drivers years ago) There's more to it than just the shorter tip though. I've never figured out what the benefit
of the posidrive style fastener was but there must have been something. Is it a type of assembly line fastener?

-->>>Mike
'64 sunroof Beetle
'55 semaphore Beetle


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Joey Tribiani 25 February 2005 07:40:16 permanent link ]
 
"Mike64Bug" <mfkoch_REMOVE@eart­hlink.net> wrote in message
news:50xTd.6500$Ba3­.5901@newsread2.news­.atl.earthlink.net..­.> I've heard people refer to the posidrive screws as a "blunt point
phillips" which isn't entirely accurate of course.> You can sometimes grind down the point on an old phillips screwdriver and
get a somewhat better fit. (I bought the> correct drivers years ago) There's more to it than just the shorter tip
though. I've never figured out what the benefit> of the posidrive style fastener was but there must have been something.
Is it a type of assembly line fastener?>

the posidriv style is better than a standard crosshead screw in a higher
torque situation...they were designed to withstand more torque without
damage or rounding...


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Briantelope 25 February 2005 07:49:05 permanent link ]
 In article <1109301603.7876454­706f676fd0aa253d4fef­25bf0@teranews>,
Michael Cecil <macecil@comcast.ne­t> wrote:
You're actually complaining that a non-US company only uses> US-proprietary connectors? Somehow that doesn't make sense. >
/doesn't own any IKEA crap.> /Prefers real furniture not made in factories.

I think it makes sense... You'd expect a US company to use stuff that
anyone in the US could get a hold of. You'd expect a non-US company to
use stuff that anyone not in the US could get a hold of. Right? I
dunno.

That said, I prefer the real stuff too :-p­
That's why I drive a VW !

Brian (woah)

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P.J. Berg 25 February 2005 10:11:33 permanent link ]
 Red Bug wrote:> In article <F1uTd.362$v85.268@­newsfe5-gui.ntli.net­>,> tricky <Tricky@handmade-f9­.co.uk> wrote:>
some >>people call them posidrive too. I think there is a slight difference in >>the design of the "cross".>
POSIDRIVE is a hack... only in the US! Different enough from Phillips > that when you get something with those screws, the standard Phillips > screwdriver doesn't quite fit well and the screw is buggered... Of > course, you can't buy a Posidrive screwdriver except in the US!>

MMmmm, Posidrive is widely available in Europe...

J.
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Bill May 25 February 2005 10:25:38 permanent link ]
 if you cant get a fitting on a brake line loose then cut tubing next to
flair nut and use a 9MM 6 point socket and ratchet, -replace tubing or
if enough slack then re-flair the metric bubble flair.

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Tricky 25 February 2005 15:31:02 permanent link ]
 I didnt have the tool to press the flare/niple on the end of the tube !

Rich


bill may wrote:> if you cant get a fitting on a brake line loose then cut tubing next to> flair nut and use a 9MM 6 point socket and ratchet, -replace tubing or> if enough slack then re-flair the metric bubble flair.>
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