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Exhaust mounted with coil nuts
Remco 27 February 2005 01:34:55
	In stripping the axhaust off my 75 bug, I had no choice but to split most nuts because of rust. They were all coil nuts for some reason. (nuts with a helicoil inside -- usually used when high stress applications). Does this application require hardware like or is this just overkill? Maybe that's what the guy happened to have? When I put it back, can I use regular nuts? Remco
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Speedy Jim 20 February 2005 05:03:35 [ permanent link ]
	Remco wrote: In stripping the axhaust off my 75 bug, I had no choice but to split> most nuts because of rust.> They were all coil nuts for some reason. (nuts with a helicoil inside> -- usually used when high stress applications).> Does this application require hardware like or is this just overkill?> Maybe that's what the guy happened to have?> When I put it back, can I use regular nuts?> Remco> Probably the OEM nuts. They're nice because they do split readily. But, you can use plain ol' nuts. Speedy Jim http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/
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Remco 20 February 2005 05:28:42 [ permanent link ]
	Yeah, I was very happy to see that splitting them was not a problem My nut cracker tool didn't have enough room but a sharp chisel worked well. Thanks! Remco
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Peter 20 February 2005 07:23:15 [ permanent link ]
	The OEM nuts (the ones you took off) are self-locking nuts, so it would be best to continue using them (new ones, of course).
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Jim Adney 21 February 2005 09:40:24 [ permanent link ]
	On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 09:25:08 -0500 "remco" <whybcuzREMOVE@THISyahoo.com> wrote: I like the brass nut idea... Thanks! The brass nuts are hard to find. Some places sell "copper" nuts for the same application, but if you put a magnet to them they are just steel nuts with a thin copper plating. They are little better than plain steel nuts. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA -----------------------------------------------
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Michael Cecil 21 February 2005 10:44:31 [ permanent link ]
	On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 23:40:24 -0600, Jim Adney <jadney@vwtype3.org> wrote: On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 09:25:08 -0500 "remco"><whybcuzREMOVE@THISyahoo.com> wrote:> I like the brass nut idea... Thanks!> The brass nuts are hard to find. Some places sell "copper" nuts for>the same application, but if you put a magnet to them they are just>steel nuts with a thin copper plating. They are little better than>plain steel nuts. Is there a reason not to use stainless steel nuts? -- Michael Cecil http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/ 1970 VW Beetle "Millennium Sparrow"
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Peter 21 February 2005 15:24:52 [ permanent link ]
	"Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org> wrote in message news:oh4g11llp9vuk0ibqmo2u31rp4238o1nta@4ax.com...> On 19 Feb 2005 15:59:08 -0800 "Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote:> Those were the OEM nuts, but I don't think VW sells them anymore. VW Part: 311 101 463. They used them right up to the end of production in 2003.
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Dennis Wik 21 February 2005 17:19:21 [ permanent link ]
	Use the original as they are easy to get off and lock on. I have a bag of them. href="http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=4025706&a=30209382&vt=vp">Den's 1977 Puma</a>
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Remco 21 February 2005 21:12:59 [ permanent link ]
	Is there a reason not to use stainless steel nuts? Stainless would be great too 0- when the time comes, I'll get what's most available. I am just thinking when the time comes to take the muffler back off. What was on there were totally fused to the studs.
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Jim Adney 22 February 2005 08:36:31 [ permanent link ]
	On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:24:52 -0400 "Peter" <peterstevens@caribsurf.com> wrote: "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org> wrote in message>news:oh4g11llp9vuk0ibqmo2u31rp4238o1nta@4ax.com... Those were the OEM nuts, but I don't think VW sells them anymore.> VW Part: 311 101 463. They used them right up to the end of production in>2003. I thought I tried to buy them from VW years ago and all I got were just plain plated steel nuts. VW was happy to sell me SOMETHING; it just wasn't what I was hoping for. Have you actually bought some? I completely agree that the cars all came with them right up to the end; I just thought I was unable to buy the same part even when they ordered it from the VW distributor. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA -----------------------------------------------
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Peter 22 February 2005 14:31:26 [ permanent link ]
	"Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org> wrote in message news:97bl11hmfa57qh6mcau2t27rcubevnm835@4ax.com...> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:24:52 -0400 "Peter"> <peterstevens@caribsurf.com> wrote:> I thought I tried to buy them from VW years ago and all I got were> just plain plated steel nuts. VW was happy to sell me SOMETHING; it> just wasn't what I was hoping for. Have you actually bought some?> I completely agree that the cars all came with them right up to the> end; I just thought I was unable to buy the same part even when they> ordered it from the VW distributor.> If you order them using the part number, then they should come through. Some Dealers are tricky though and will pass off anything they might have in stock. It can even happen from the main warehouses without the dealer knowing, but the part number is still available so I would try again.
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Scott H 26 February 2005 01:35:33 [ permanent link ]
	"Jim Adney" wrote ...> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 00:44:31 -0600 Michael Cecil <macecil@comcast.net>> wrote:> Is there a reason not to use stainless steel nuts?> I tried that for a few years, but it seemed that there was a galvanic> reaction between the stainless nuts and the alum head (and the> magnesium case.) It looked like the stainless nuts came out fine, but> any nearby light metal suffered from rapid corrosion and got eaten> away. This wasn't a scientific study, but I didn't like the way things> were going so I changed my tactics.> I've seen no such problem with the brass nuts in about 20 years of> use.> The brass nuts ARE softer, and sometimes I will strip one. This is> annoying, but I always remind myself that it is better than stripping> or breaking a stud. Stripping always occurs when the threads on the> stud are in bad shape, and I have always been able to add a flat> washer or 2 to space the nut out to a portion of the stud that still> has enough good threads to hold. For anyone looking for a source for the brass nuts, I buy mine from http://www.mcmaster.com/ -- Scott
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Dennis Wik 26 February 2005 03:51:49 [ permanent link ]
	The ones I got are copper-beveled and come off without busting the studs. I got the last bag from JCW href="http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=4025706&a=30209382&vt=vp">Den's 1977 Puma</a>
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Joey Tribiani 27 February 2005 01:34:55 [ permanent link ]
	"Scott H" <sdcvwDELETETHIS@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message >> For anyone looking for a source for the brass nuts, I buy mine from> http://www.mcmaster.com/> -- > Scott> for those running a header exhaust JC at aircooled.net sells the 8mm nuts with an 11mm head, and they are brass...i use them...very happy with them...
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