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Pierburg 1B3 adjustment screw locations?

Mark 16 April 2005 00:11:27
 Anyone know where the carburettor adjustment screws (idle, mixture etc)
are located on a 1988 Polo 1050cc fitted with the Pierburg single barrel
automatic choke carb (I think it's the 1B3). It's been a while since
I've tinkered about with engines fitted with carburettors, so before I
take a look I just wanted to know where all the various adjusters were.
Thanks.


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SteveH 16 April 2005 00:55:34 permanent link ]
 Mark <here@invalidaddres­s.com> wrote:
Anyone know where the carburettor adjustment screws (idle, mixture etc)> are located on a 1988 Polo 1050cc fitted with the Pierburg single barrel> automatic choke carb (I think it's the 1B3). It's been a while since > I've tinkered about with engines fitted with carburettors, so before I> take a look I just wanted to know where all the various adjusters were.> Thanks.

I wouldn't mess with it.

If the car isn't running right, it's usually because the carb is
knackered and needs a full rebuild, if not binning.
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Nathan Lucas 16 April 2005 02:02:00 permanent link ]
 pieburg carbs are more trouble than they're worth when they start getting
old. just keep your eyes open on ebay for a 2nd hand webber for it :)­


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Akd 16 April 2005 02:33:44 permanent link ]
 Mark wrote:> Anyone know where the carburettor adjustment screws (idle, mixture etc) > are located on a 1988 Polo 1050cc fitted with the Pierburg single barrel > automatic choke carb (I think it's the 1B3). It's been a while since > I've tinkered about with engines fitted with carburettors, so before I > take a look I just wanted to know where all the various adjusters were. > Thanks. >
It's probably not the carb, im 99% sure it's either the carb to manifold
rubber gasket seal or the breather inlet on the bottom of the manifold.

Andy
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Petrolcan 16 April 2005 05:28:29 permanent link ]
 the cont known as Mark says...>Anyone know where the carburettor adjustment screws (idle, mixture etc) >are located on a 1988 Polo 1050cc fitted with the Pierburg single barrel >automatic choke carb (I think it's the 1B3). It's been a while since >I've tinkered about with engines fitted with carburettors, so before I >take a look I just wanted to know where all the various adjusters were.

TBH, it would be far better if you actually explained the problem(s)
you are currently having if you want decent advice here.
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Mark 16 April 2005 15:31:47 permanent link ]
 "petrolcan" <petrolcanREMOVE@gm­ail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cca7a93b3­9fa46989b5d@news.ind­ividual.net...> the cont known as Mark says...>>Anyone know where the carburettor adjustment screws (idle, mixture >>etc)>>are located on a 1988 Polo 1050cc fitted with the Pierburg single >>barrel>>automatic­ choke carb (I think it's the 1B3). It's been a while since>>I've tinkered about with engines fitted with carburettors, so before I>>take a look I just wanted to know where all the various adjusters >>were.>
TBH, it would be far better if you actually explained the problem(s)> you are currently having if you want decent advice here.

It's my nephew's and from what he tells me over the phone it sounds like
an automatic choke problem. He says the revs are low & cutting out when
started from cold but runs ok once warmed up, but the revs still seem a
little low . I've just had a quick look to check all the pipes and
connectors are secure and I noticed that even though the car has been
standing for several hours the choke flap remains fully open and doesn't
appear to be closing. Loosening the 3 choke assembly screws I can
rotate the choke housing a good inch clockwise before the choke flap
starts to shut. As a trial & error measure I adjusted the choke flap so
it's about half shut and it started up fine and ran smoothly.

Once fully warmed up I connected a tacho and the revs do seem a bit low
at 600rpm. I've not got a manual for this car but according to Autodata
CD the idle speed should be around 800 + or - 50. However they assume
it's fitted with a Weber 32TL carb and not a Pierburg! I was going to
make a slight adjustment to the idle speed (making a note of the
original position). I can see a screw on the left hand side of the carb
(as you look from the front of the engine bay) that hits the throttle
stop. I'm assuming this is the idle speed adjuster but the end of this
screw doesn't appear to have a slot to adjust it. It's a bit awkward to
see the screw head properly but is it fitted with a tamperproof cap? I
have read that these carbs are a PITA and will keep an eye out at the
local scrapies for a Weber replacement.


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Nik&Andy 16 April 2005 16:49:46 permanent link ]
 "Mark" <here@invalidaddres­s.com> wrote in message
news:3ccbggF6ke580U­1@individual.net...>­ "petrolcan" <petrolcanREMOVE@gm­ail.com> wrote in message > news:MPG.1cca7a93b3­9fa46989b5d@news.ind­ividual.net...>> the cont known as Mark says...>>>Anyone know where the carburettor adjustment screws (idle, mixture etc)>>>are located on a 1988 Polo 1050cc fitted with the Pierburg single barrel>>>automatic choke carb (I think it's the 1B3). It's been a while since>>>I've tinkered about with engines fitted with carburettors, so before I>>>take a look I just wanted to know where all the various adjusters were.>>
TBH, it would be far better if you actually explained the problem(s)>> you are currently having if you want decent advice here.>
It's my nephew's and from what he tells me over the phone it sounds like > an automatic choke problem. He says the revs are low & cutting out when > started from cold but runs ok once warmed up, but the revs still seem a > little low . I've just had a quick look to check all the pipes and > connectors are secure and I noticed that even though the car has been > standing for several hours the choke flap remains fully open and doesn't > appear to be closing. Loosening the 3 choke assembly screws I can rotate > the choke housing a good inch clockwise before the choke flap starts to > shut. As a trial & error measure I adjusted the choke flap so it's about > half shut and it started up fine and ran smoothly.>
Once fully warmed up I connected a tacho and the revs do seem a bit low at > 600rpm. I've not got a manual for this car but according to Autodata CD > the idle speed should be around 800 + or - 50. However they assume it's > fitted with a Weber 32TL carb and not a Pierburg! I was going to make a > slight adjustment to the idle speed (making a note of the original > position). I can see a screw on the left hand side of the carb (as you > look from the front of the engine bay) that hits the throttle stop. I'm > assuming this is the idle speed adjuster but the end of this screw doesn't > appear to have a slot to adjust it. It's a bit awkward to see the screw > head properly but is it fitted with a tamperproof cap? I have read that > these carbs are a PITA and will keep an eye out at the local scrapies for > a Weber replacement.>
The 1litre Vauxhall Nova probably has the same carb, sounds like you need to
purchase a manual choke conversion kit, these are around £25 from GSF or
similar.

Andy


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Dave Hall 17 April 2005 02:59:52 permanent link ]
 Working from the Haynes Carb manual that covers the 1B3, look for the barrel
shaped object with electrical connection, and the small screw above and angled
to the right is the idle mixture adjustment, while the largish screw above and
to the left with chamfered shoulders controls the idle air by-pass. The by-pass
sets the idle speed, while the small mixture screw adjusts the CO %. It sounds
as if the idle mixture screw may be tamper-proof, according to the book.

If you have no CO meter, generally the technique is to adjust the mixture screw
by gradually turning it in until you get max idle rpm, then turn out a fraction
(1/8th turn maybe). You then adjust the idle air-by-pass screw for correct
rpm. Screw in for slower and unscrew for faster.

There is an idle speed boost valve fitted on the carb for Volkswagen HZ engines.
Maybe yours is faulty.

If you fancy keeping the 1B3, it will probably pay you to buy the Haynes
"Automotive Carburettor Manual" or photocopy the appropriate pages. There
should be some detail in your Haynes Manual for the Golf too.
There's at least two of the Haynes Auto Carb manuals on E-bay at the moment,
items 4541957546 (ends Sunday at 19:49) and 8301709064 (7 days left). List
price is £19.95 apparently. There are others that deal with motorbike carbs and
Weber - maybe others too.

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Dave.
UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club
http://www.hallvw.c­lara.co.uk/
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"Mark" <here@invalidaddres­s.com> wrote in message
news:3calgtF6m3ppsU­1@individual.net...>­ Anyone know where the carburettor adjustment screws (idle, mixture etc)> are located on a 1988 Polo 1050cc fitted with the Pierburg single barrel> automatic choke carb (I think it's the 1B3). It's been a while since> I've tinkered about with engines fitted with carburettors, so before I> take a look I just wanted to know where all the various adjusters were.> Thanks.>


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Mark 19 April 2005 15:14:04 permanent link ]
 "Dave Hall" <dave@hallvw.clara.­co.uk> wrote in message
news:1113693206.109­70.0@nnrp-t71-03.new­s.uk.clara.net...> Working from the Haynes Carb manual that covers the 1B3, look for the barrel> shaped object with electrical connection, and the small screw above and > angled> to the right is the idle mixture adjustment, while the largish screw above > and> to the left with chamfered shoulders controls the idle air by-pass. The > by-pass> sets the idle speed, while the small mixture screw adjusts the CO %. It > sounds> as if the idle mixture screw may be tamper-proof, according to the book.>
If you have no CO meter, generally the technique is to adjust the mixture > screw> by gradually turning it in until you get max idle rpm, then turn out a > fraction> (1/8th turn maybe). You then adjust the idle air-by-pass screw for correct> rpm. Screw in for slower and unscrew for faster.>
There is an idle speed boost valve fitted on the carb for Volkswagen HZ > engines.> Maybe yours is faulty.>
If you fancy keeping the 1B3, it will probably pay you to buy the Haynes> "Automotive Carburettor Manual" or photocopy the appropriate pages. There> should be some detail in your Haynes Manual for the Golf too.> There's at least two of the Haynes Auto Carb manuals on E-bay at the moment,> items 4541957546 (ends Sunday at 19:49) and 8301709064 (7 days left). > List> price is £19.95 apparently. There are others that deal with motorbike carbs > and> Weber - maybe others too.

That's very useful, cheers. I also found a diagram of the 1B carb at
http://www.gowerlee­.dircon.co.uk/1B3typ­e.html .


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