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83 Warning lights

john G. 27 April 2005 05:32:37
 This a.m. my 83 threw me curve ball. Drove it for an hour fine with the
volts just under 16. Got out and back in the volts are 12 and steady and
BOTH the CHARGE and BRAKE lights are lit. Still seems to run fine and no
starter cranking degradation like I was running off the battery. Any ideas?


john
Chesapeake, VA


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Guest 27 April 2005 05:32:37 [ permanent link ]
 If the brake and charge lights come on during revving of the engine
then it's a sign that the carbon alternator brushes require replacing
as this is the mileage for them to wear out. In alternators the brushes
wear out on average every 140-170 000 miles where on the dashboard the
brake & charge light both come on at the same time. About half of the
auto electric shops in your local yellow pages sell carbon alternator
brushes and copper solenoid starter contacts for about $5/pair.Another
way to verify that the alternator is not charging is while the engine
is running bring a metal screwdriver or any metal object near the
alternator and if the alternator is working properly then it should act
like a magnet and grab the screwdriver.

For carbon brushes R&R:

http://www.4x4wire.­com/toyota/maintenan­ce/alternator_brushe­s/
http://www.toyotaof­froad.net/afertig/88­/alternatorbrushes.h­tm
http://perso.wanado­o.fr/adherence.4x4/a­lternateur_kzj.htm
http://www.automoti­veforums.com/vbullet­in/showthread.php?t=­166525
http://www.toyotana­tion.com/forum/showt­hread.php?threadid=2­7270&forumid=10
http://www.bitwalla­.com/cruisers/articl­es/alternator.html
http://www.barneymc­.com/toy_root/techta­lk/electric/altrnatr­.htm

For decoding the dashboard lights:

http://www.powerbas­e-auto.co.uk/alterna­tor_faults.htm
http://members.1stc­onnect.com/anozira/S­iteTops/energy/Alter­nator/alternator.htm­


Here are part #'s for Toyota alternator carbon brushes and copper
solenoid starter contacts which are used in about 95% of all Toyota
vehicles.

Toyota alternator Brushes with holder:

Toyota # 27370-35060=$29 CDN

Alternator brush only (qty:1 brush unless otherwise stated):

AC Delco # E724
AC Delco # E731 (side wire and concave tip)
Ace Electric # DA-61 (brush only),S-5367 (brush holder)
Beck Arnley # 178-1669 (side wire and concave tip)
Beck Arnley # 178-1376
Borg Warner # X580 (side wire and concave tip)
Canadian Tire # 19-2050-6=$4.49/pai­r
Daihatsu # 27370-87302-000
Daihatsu # 27371-63020-000
Daihatsu # 27371-87501-000
Daihatsu # 27371-70300-000
Echlin # E601=$8.16 CDN/pair (UAP/NAPA)
Echlin # ECHE601
Echlin # EC480
Echlin # ECHE480
GP Sorensen # 255047 (side wire and concave tip)
GM # 94123056
GM # 96054118
Honda # 31144-PD1-004=$9.72­
Honda # 31144-PD1-0040
Honda # 31144-PD1-0030
Honda # 31150-PR7-A01
Honda # 31150-PTO-003
Hino Industries # 021660-0390
Hino Industries # 021660-0510
Isuzu # 8-94123-056-0
Isuzu # 8-97032-308-0
Isuzu # 8-97032-310-0
Mazda # 021660-0390
Mazda # 021660-0510
Mazda # KL47-18-W75
Mileage Plus # E601SB
Mitsubishi # MD604474
Mitsubishi # 21660-0510
Niehoff # WA571 (side wire and concave tip)
NipponDenso # 021660-0390
NipponDenso # 021660-0510
Standard # JX-116 (side wire and concave tip)
Subaru # 021660-0390
Subaru # 021660-0510
Suzuki # 31631-82610
Suzuki # 31656-82611
Suzuki # 021660-0510
Toyota # 27370-42010
Toyota # 27370-75060
Toyota # 27371-63020=$5.80 (up to 9105) (side wire and concave tip)
Toyota # 27371-70300=$5.20 (9105-9511)
Toyota # 27371-76004-71
UAP/NAPA # MPEE601SB
Victory Lap # FAX57=$4.49 CDN/pair (Canadian Tire)
Wilson's Electric # 26-29-7534 (side wire and concave tip)=$2.20 each
CDN (Diesel Auto Electric)(Parts for Trucks,box of 10 for $3.40 CDN)

Specifications:
Length=15 mm
Width=7 mm
Thickness=5 mm
Lead length=49 mm

These Honda alternators are the same except the pulley must be swapped:

1986-89 Honda Accord (Carb),the EFI can be used but the voltage reg
must be swapped
1990-93 Acura Integra

15 Toyota (NipponDenso now called Denso) starter repair sites:

http://www.off-road­.com/4x4web/toyota/t­ech/starter/ -
http://www.4crawler­.com/4x4/CheapTricks­/Starter.shtml
http://char.tuiasi.­ro/vw/reality/rogerb­/4x4/CheapTricks/Sta­rter.html
http://yotarepair.c­om/startercontacts.h­tml
http://www.toyotaof­froad.net/afertig/88­/starterrepair.htm
http://www.4x4wire.­com/toyota/maintenan­ce/starter/
http://www.yotatech­.com/~corey/tech/hav­eblue_starter/havebl­ue.htm
http://www.sleeoffr­oad.com/technical/tz­_starter_rebuild.htm­
http://www.starterc­ontacts.com/install.­htm
http://www.starterc­ontacts.com/images/O­SGR%20Exploded%20vie­w.jpg
http://www.colorado­4x4.net/tech/starter­_contacts/starter_co­ntacts.html
http://www.barneymc­.com/toy_root/techne­ek/starter.htm
http://perso.wanado­o.fr/adherence.4x4/s­tart_bj.htm
http://www.automoti­veforums.com/vbullet­in/showthread.php?t=­166530
http://www.toyotana­tion.com/forum/showt­hread.php?threadid=2­7312&forumid=10
http://www.toyotana­tion.com/showthread.­php?threadid=27312&f­orumid=10

Starter contact kits:

Toyota # 28226-72010/80 (battery side)(also1KZTE-2LT­-1KZT)
Toyota # 28226-72080 (8808-9108)
Toyota # 28226-16130 (9108-9308)
Toyota # 28226-55050 (9308-9511)
Toyota # 28226-70040 (9308-9511)
Toyota # 28226-72040 (motor side if needed)
Toyota # 28226-72010 (8808-9511)
Toyota # 28226-74070 (9108-9511)

For others besides 22R series:

Toyota # 28226-54220 (motor side) (2LTE, 3L..LN13# IKZTE, 2L#,
KZN130,LN108,112,85­..4FC)
Toyota # 28226-54250 (Diesel Surf 2.4TD, contains a new end cover and
gasket)
Toyota # 28226-54320 (battery side) (2LTE, 3L..LN13# IKZTE, 2L#,
KZN130, LN108,112,85..4FC,3­B-1HZ-BJ73-HZJ7#-1KZ­T-KZJ70)
Toyota # 28226-17030 (battery side) (1H#-HDJ80-HZJ80)
Toyota # 28226-56250 (battery side) (3B-1HZ-1PZ-PZJ7#)

Starter contacts only:

Toyota # 28226-70040
Wilson's Electric # 45-29-652

Starter brushes:

AC Delco # D762
GP Sorensen # 255048
Standard # JX-117

Whether your starter uses two rectangular types or one rectangular and
one crescent you can substitute with two squares or one square and one
crescent so any of the above part #'s for those kits will be the right
ones,or about half of the auto electric shops in your local yellow
pages would sell aftermarket contacts for only $5 each or the pair.

SidneyВ® В™
Repairs tv's,vcr's,home/car­ audio out of my home
E-mail:sidneybek@ya­hoo.com
Dartmouth,Nova Scotia
Canada
1985 Toyota 4-Runner,solid front straight axle,factory cruise
control,sunroof,22R­-E,W56,RN60LV-MSEK,r­usted rear step/towing chrome
bumper with 244 000 KM

john G. wrote:> This a.m. my 83 threw me curve ball. Drove it for an hour fine with
volts just under 16. Got out and back in the volts are 12 and steady
BOTH the CHARGE and BRAKE lights are lit. Still seems to run fine
and no> starter cranking degradation like I was running off the battery. Any
ideas?>
john> Chesapeake, VA

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