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CarGuru > Toyota > Can I use P185 70R14 tire on my 1995 Camry V6 2 May 2005 18:48:48

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Can I use P185 70R14 tire on my 1995 Camry V6

Kanata2004 2 May 2005 18:48:48
 I have four snow tires which are P185 70R14(From my 1987 Camry). Can I
use it on my 1995 Camry V6 in winter time? The current tires are P205
60R15. Thanks.
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Hachiroku 27 April 2005 18:59:51 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 23:46:00 -0400, Kanata2004 wrote:
I have four snow tires which are P185 70R14(From my 1987 Camry). Can I > use it on my 1995 Camry V6 in winter time? The current tires are P205 > 60R15. Thanks.

If the wheels fit. Obviously, you can't mount 14" tires on 15" rims.

You will notice a big difference in handling and the speedo will be off.
But, the skinnier tires will give you a better 'cut' in snow.
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Kanata2004 27 April 2005 23:23:24 permanent link ]
 My P185 70R14 tires are on rim. I did some research on internet.

My conclusion is: I can use the old winter 185 70R14 tires (on old rim)
but it will affect the mileage because of the smaller size.

Here is an article form Tirerack.com:
http://www.tirerack­.com/winter/tech/siz­ing.jsp


hachiroku wrote:> On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 23:46:00 -0400, Kanata2004 wrote:>
I have four snow tires which are P185 70R14(From my 1987 Camry). Can I >>use it on my 1995 Camry V6 in winter time? The current tires are P205 >>60R15. Thanks.>
If the wheels fit. Obviously, you can't mount 14" tires on 15" rims.>
You will notice a big difference in handling and the speedo will be off.> But, the skinnier tires will give you a better 'cut' in snow.
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Hopkins 29 April 2005 03:36:28 permanent link ]
 Tire Rack is a nice source for this kind of stuff. As long as the bolt
pattern matches up there should be no problem.

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Ken Day 29 April 2005 08:17:47 permanent link ]
 On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:23:24 -0400, Kanata2004 <kanata2004@yahoo.c­om>
wrote:
My P185 70R14 tires are on rim. I did some research on internet.>
My conclusion is: I can use the old winter 185 70R14 tires (on old rim) >but it will affect the mileage because of the smaller size.>

It won't affect the speedometer much at all.
The 14" tires are only 1/2" , or 2% smaller in
diameter than the 15" tires. This would only be approx
1.5 mph difference at 70 mph.
I doubt your gas mileage would suffer any.
hachiroku wrote:>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 23:46:00 -0400, Kanata2004 wrote:>>
I have four snow tires which are P185 70R14(From my 1987 Camry). Can I >>>use it on my 1995 Camry V6 in winter time? The current tires are P205 >>>60R15. Thanks.>>
If the wheels fit. Obviously, you can't mount 14" tires on 15" rims.>>
You will notice a big difference in handling and the speedo will be off.>> But, the skinnier tires will give you a better 'cut' in snow.

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Muadibв® 30 April 2005 02:41:19 permanent link ]
 
It won't affect the speedometer much at all.>The 14" tires are only 1/2" , or 2% smaller in>diameter than the 15" tires. This would only be approx>1.5 mph difference at 70 mph. >I doubt your gas mileage would suffer any.

It's the circumference that makes the difference in MPH

I am not sure, (cause I haven't been a speedo guy for about five years
now), what the actual differnce would be. However, I do believe it
would have to turn a bit faster than that described. My math mind is
out of pocket at this time, and I am pulling this up from a tired set
of DIMMS..............­.....although It's feasible to just run it
against another vehicle that is trusted to be accurate, and just
adjust your thinking to certain miile per hour settings
differences........­...I have even seen folks mark on the speedo lens
with a sharpee to show the marks to keep em outta trouble. I recomend
tape or electrostatic film to mark on, unless you can change the lense
yourself later.

The above poster may be right, but it just doesn;t feel right to me.

Math explanations are simply not viable from me right now........LOL




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Muadibв® 30 April 2005 02:43:37 permanent link ]
 Oops, I forgot to mention that the MPH you will read will be higher
with smaller tires, not the reverse............­...

Smaller tires are actually safer to "hope" against because the speedo
will read faster than you are going.




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Ken Day 30 April 2005 13:48:30 permanent link ]
 On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:41:19 GMT, MUADIBВ®
<SSTERRELL2YOURPANT­IES@verizon.net> wrote:
It won't affect the speedometer much at all.>the 14" tires are only 1/2" , or 2% smaller in>diameter than the 15" tires. This would only be approx>>1.5 mph difference at 70 mph. >>I doubt your gas mileage would suffer any.
Ken Day
It's the circumference that makes the difference in MPH

Circumference , diameter ...can't have more of one without the
other. A tire has to be larger in diameter to have a larger
circumference.
I suppose I should have done the math , so here it is.

First , what those numbers and letters mean.

P = Passenger car
185 = width of tire in mm
70 = aspect ratio. The distance from the bead of the tire to the top
of the tread would be 70% of the width.
R = radial
15 = wheel size of course

There is usually another letter such as H or V and so on which is the
speed rating of the tire.
-------------------­--------------------­--------------------­--------------------­-----------

P185 70R14
185 mm x 70% = 129.5mm distance from the bead to top of tread.
Now we double that to get total bead to top of tread height for top
and bottom.
129.5 mm x 2 = 259 mm / 25.4 = 10.19 inches
wheel size of 14" + 10.19" = 24.19"
24.19 x 3.14 = 75.9" rollout... or circumference.
-------------------­--------------------­--------------------­--------------------­------------
P205 60R15

205 mm x 60%=123 mm x 2 = 246 mm / 25.4 = 9.68 inches
wheel size of 15" + 9.68" = 24.68"
24.68" x 3.14 = 77.5" rollout ....or circumference

So you can see there is approx 2% difference in diameter or
circumference which also equates to 2% difference in indicated
speed. 70 mph x 2% = 1.4 mph. Indicated speed with the smaller
tires would be faster than you are actually traveling.

Please don't attack me for not showing this in formula format , I
preferred doing it the way I did.

Ken Day
I am not sure, (cause I haven't been a speedo guy for about five years>now), what the actual differnce would be. However, I do believe it>would have to turn a bit faster than that described. My math mind is>out of pocket at this time, and I am pulling this up from a tired set>of DIMMS..............­.....although It's feasible to just run it>against another vehicle that is trusted to be accurate, and just>adjust your thinking to certain miile per hour settings>difference­s...........I have even seen folks mark on the speedo lens>with a sharpee to show the marks to keep em outta trouble. I recomend>tape or electrostatic film to mark on, unless you can change the lense>yourself later.>
The above poster may be right, but it just doesn;t feel right to me.>
Math explanations are simply not viable from me right now........LOL>
Remove "YOURPANTIES" to reply >
MUADIBВ®>
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Muadibв® 30 April 2005 20:15:27 permanent link ]
 Thinker skin Ken,.............I said you may be right. It just didn't
feel right to me as I used to adjust/repair speedos, and had to
measure out rollout and such everytime so as to make an accurate
setting when finished.
I apologize if it seemed as an attack. It was not meant to be at all.
Just a clarification to the original poster.




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Ken Day 30 April 2005 22:21:24 permanent link ]
 On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:15:27 GMT, MUADIBВ®
<SSTERRELL2YOURPANT­IES@verizon.net> wrote:
I apologize if it seemed as an attack. It was not meant to be at all.>Just a clarification to the original poster.

I didn't think it was an attack. Sorry if I made it sound
that way. I too was just trying to clarify my post. :-)­

Ken Day
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Geoff 1 May 2005 05:05:27 permanent link ]
 Hi,

Here's a site with a rolling circumference calculator in it:

http://www.chris-lo­nghurst.com/carbible­s/index.html?menu.ht­ml&tyre_bible.html

and a lot of other information as well. It mentions the "plus one" concept
of changing tyre sizes, and how it may affect your ride comfort.

Cheers

Geoff


"Ken Day" <kd1942@aol.com> wrote in message
news:4gf671t1lbubf5­l0rqg51o9keiec9o0m6d­@4ax.com...> On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:41:19 GMT, MUADIBЁ> <SSTERRELL2YOURPANT­IES@verizon.net> wrote:>
It won't affect the speedometer much at all.>>the 14" tires are only 1/2" , or 2% smaller in>>diameter than the 15" tires. This would only be approx>>>1.5 mph difference at 70 mph.>>>I doubt your gas mileage would suffer any.


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Hachiroku 2 May 2005 18:48:48 permanent link ]
 On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:41:19 +0000, MUADIBВ® wrote:
It won't affect the speedometer much at all.>>The 14" tires are only 1/2" , or 2% smaller in>>diameter than the 15" tires. This would only be approx>>1.5 mph difference at 70 mph. >>I doubt your gas mileage would suffer any.>
It's the circumference that makes the difference in MPH >
I am not sure, (cause I haven't been a speedo guy for about five years> now), what the actual differnce would be. However, I do believe it> would have to turn a bit faster than that described. My math mind is> out of pocket at this time, and I am pulling this up from a tired set> of DIMMS..............­.....although It's feasible to just run it> against another vehicle that is trusted to be accurate, and just> adjust your thinking to certain miile per hour settings> differences........­...I have even seen folks mark on the speedo lens> with a sharpee to show the marks to keep em outta trouble. I recomend> tape or electrostatic film to mark on, unless you can change the lense> yourself later.>
The above poster may be right, but it just doesn;t feel right to me.>
Math explanations are simply not viable from me right now........LOL

Here's an easy way to do it. The difference in the speedo will most likely
be negligable, but may be a couple MPH:

http://www.miata.ne­t/garage/tirecalc.ht­ml

This is a nice one; it shows you the new profile compared with the
original profile.

Here's 1010 tires'

http://www.1010tire­s.com/TireSizeCalcul­ator.asp

And another:

http://www.wickedbo­dies.net/Tire-Size-C­alculator.htm

I think the OP said he had 205/60-15's to begin with; a 185/60-14 will be
7.9% off, or will show 60MPH on the speedo when actual speed is ~56MPH.


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