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Struts
David Glass 17 April 2005 22:00:46
	Is changing the struts on my 2000 Camry something I should be able to do? My mechanical skills include changing brakes, belts, alternators, water pumps...stuff like that.
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Ben 10 March 2005 02:43:25 [ permanent link ]
	Ok.. I have a question about struts.. I had the oil changed in my 96 SL2 and the tech told that the struts where shot and needed to be replaced.. He said that the rear ones were so bad that they were "Shredding my tires".. I looked at the tires when I got home and I didn't see any signs of the tires shredding... I am going to replace the struts.. But I am going to do them myself... I wasn't going to pay someone $600 to replace them... Thanks for the help.. Ben
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Blah Blah 10 March 2005 03:09:52 [ permanent link ]
	In article <571ed$422f7c1a$18d6851a$20626@KNOLOGY.NET>, bmccunenospam@knology.net says...> Ok.. I have a question about struts.. I had the oil changed in my 96 SL2 and > the tech told that the struts where shot and needed to be replaced.. He said > that the rear ones were so bad that they were "Shredding my tires".. I > looked at the tires when I got home and I didn't see any signs of the tires > shredding... I am going to replace the struts.. But I am going to do them > myself... I wasn't going to pay someone $600 to replace them...> Thanks for the help..> Ben Lol, I wouldnt go back there again. How do you know the advice was true? You need to goto the front of your car and push down on the bumper repeatedly until the car gets bobbing real good. Then jump back and count how many times it continues to bounce afterwords. If it doesnt, then they are good, if it bounces more than 3 times then they are certainly bad. Do the same to the rear.
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Ben 10 March 2005 03:24:00 [ permanent link ]
	Ok.. I did what you said... Car bounced about 1 to 1 1/2 times and stopped bouncing cold... I guess I am ok then.. But what is thing about "Shredding tires".. I have owned alot of cars and trucks and have never heard of a bad suspention "Shredding" tires before.. I know they they can make the tire wear funny and get poor mileage of them... Oh well.. Thanks for the info.. Ben "blah blah" <bl@h.blah> wrote in message news:MPG.1c994d90eff2761d989d67@news-server.woh.rr.com...> In article <571ed$422f7c1a$18d6851a$20626@KNOLOGY.NET>,> bmccunenospam@knology.net says...>> Ok.. I have a question about struts.. I had the oil changed in my 96 SL2 >> and>> the tech told that the struts where shot and needed to be replaced.. He >> said>> that the rear ones were so bad that they were "Shredding my tires".. I>> looked at the tires when I got home and I didn't see any signs of the >> tires>> shredding... I am going to replace the struts.. But I am going to do them>> myself... I wasn't going to pay someone $600 to replace them...>> Thanks for the help..>> Lol, I wouldnt go back there again. How do you know the advice was true?> You need to goto the front of your car and push down on the bumper> repeatedly until the car gets bobbing real good. Then jump back and> count how many times it continues to bounce afterwords. If it doesnt,> then they are good, if it bounces more than 3 times then they are> certainly bad. Do the same to the rear.
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Bob Shuman 10 March 2005 03:49:23 [ permanent link ]
	make sure you look at all sides of the tires, including the inside tire wall which would not normally be viewable unless you get under the car. I have seen tires that were shredded on the sidewalls before, but these were low profile tires that had a puncture so had been run at too low a pressure. make sure that you have good clearance all the way around as well even when turning. Bob "Ben" <bmccunenospam@knology.net> wrote in message news:f11c4$422f859d$18d6851a$7784@KNOLOGY.NET...> Ok.. I did what you said... Car bounced about 1 to 1 1/2 times and stopped> bouncing cold... I guess I am ok then.. But what is thing about "Shredding> tires".. I have owned alot of cars and trucks and have never heard of a suspention "Shredding" tires before.. I know they they can make the tire> wear funny and get poor mileage of them... Oh well.. Thanks for the info..> Ben
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Ben 10 March 2005 14:40:23 [ permanent link ]
	Yep... I agree with you about tires.. I have had tires come apart on me before.. Bad batch of tires... I did inspect the tires.. I crawled under the car and looked at them all... Nothing.. I couldn't see a thing... Oh well.. I am not going to worry about... I do need new tires pretty soon though.. Thanks for all the help.. Ben "Bob Shuman" <reshuman@removethis.lucent.com> wrote in message news:d0o225$adg@netnews.proxy.lucent.com...> make sure you look at all sides of the tires, including the inside tire > wall> which would not normally be viewable unless you get under the car. I have> seen tires that were shredded on the sidewalls before, but these were low> profile tires that had a puncture so had been run at too low a pressure.> make sure that you have good clearance all the way around as well even > when> turning.> "Ben" <bmccunenospam@knology.net> wrote in message> news:f11c4$422f859d$18d6851a$7784@KNOLOGY.NET...>> Ok.. I did what you said... Car bounced about 1 to 1 1/2 times and >> stopped>> bouncing cold... I guess I am ok then.. But what is thing about >> "Shredding>> tires".. I have owned alot of cars and trucks and have never heard of a> bad>> suspention "Shredding" tires before.. I know they they can make the tire>> wear funny and get poor mileage of them... Oh well.. Thanks for the >> info..>>
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Richard 5 April 2005 01:16:33 [ permanent link ]
	"Ben" <bmccunenospam@knology.net> wrote in message news:f11c4$422f859d$18d6851a$7784@KNOLOGY.NET...> Ok.. I did what you said... Car bounced about 1 to 1 1/2 times and stopped > bouncing cold... I guess I am ok then.. But what is thing about "Shredding > tires".. I have owned alot of cars and trucks and have never heard of a > bad suspention "Shredding" tires before.. I know they they can make the > tire wear funny and get poor mileage of them... Oh well.. Thanks for the > info..> I bought an '89 Mazda 323 SE in 10/03. My first car and only necessary lesson in buying a car cheap and as-is from a stranger. After buying it I had the car looked at (yeah, I know I did it backwards) and one thing the guy pointed out was that the springs in the back that surround the strut were collapsing. They were actually breaking at the top. He said it wasn't worth fixing on an old car with as many problems as this one was turning out to have as many problems as it did and it would just make the ride bumpy. About a month or so later I went over a small bump and heard a loud clunk from the rear driver's side. After that every little pebble or crack in the road made a loud clattering. I called a trusted mechanic (co-worker's nephew) and asked him about it, mentioning about the springs. << He said that the spring might have completely broken. I asked if it was something to worry about and he said he had seen where a broken spring had hung down and punctured the tire. >> It turned out when I brought the car in that the top end of the strut had rusted so bad that it broke free from the body and was just clanging around in there. Only the spring was still holding it. In any case, I suppose this is what your guy was alledging. That the spring might be hanging down and cutting the tires. Seems a stupid lie since it is something you can easily look at yourself. Just not very creative, I guess.
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Qslim 18 April 2005 01:22:44 [ permanent link ]
	You'll need a spring compressor to do that. If you've never used one before, BE REAL CAREFUL!!!!!!!!!!! When you have a spring squeezed down to change the damper, there's enough potential energy in there to do serious damage. One guy I worked with a while back had one come apart on him and it put a small hole in his hand. Literally, a hole. Oh, and you'll also need to align it afterwards, as your camber will be out of whack. Thats not nearly as dangerous, though.
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Jeff Strickland 20 April 2005 03:07:09 [ permanent link ]
	You _should_ be able to take on this job. The struts need a Spring Compressor tool that is essentially two blocks of metal that have a hook molded into them, and a very long bolt connecting them together. You need two of these tools - they are used in sets of two. Many auto parts houses will let you check them out, like checking a book out from the library except they bill you for the tools then give a full refund on the return. Use the spring compressor to hold the spring in a compressed state, then when you remove the bolts and let the suspension drop, the spring and shock (strut) can be removed from the car, the shock replaced, and the whole mess put back in place. "David Glass" <dglass@sonic.net> wrote in message news:ivx8e.14998$m31.142381@typhoon.sonic.net...> Is changing the struts on my 2000 Camry something I should be able to do?> My mechanical skills include changing brakes, belts, alternators, water> pumps...stuff like that.>
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Ray O 20 April 2005 19:51:43 [ permanent link ]
	"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message news:8smdnaE3B_0lEvjfRVn-2g@ez2.net...> You _should_ be able to take on this job. The struts need a Spring> Compressor tool that is essentially two blocks of metal that have a hook> molded into them, and a very long bolt connecting them together. You need> two of these tools - they are used in sets of two. Many auto parts houses> will let you check them out, like checking a book out from the library> except they bill you for the tools then give a full refund on the return.> Use the spring compressor to hold the spring in a compressed state, then> when you remove the bolts and let the suspension drop, the spring and > shock> (strut) can be removed from the car, the shock replaced, and the whole > mess> put back in place.> They type of spring compressor that Jeff is describing here can be very dangerous! If it fails or slips, the pieces can easily penetrate wood and drywall. Make sure you get directions and follow them exactly or see if you can rent a professional type compressor. In any event, you will need to have the car re-aligned to re-set the camber. -- Ray O correct the return address punctuation to reply
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Jeff Strickland 20 April 2005 21:57:23 [ permanent link ]
	"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote in message news:9fe$42667bfc$44a4a10d$28751@msgid.meganewsservers.com...> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message> news:8smdnaE3B_0lEvjfRVn-2g@ez2.net...> > You _should_ be able to take on this job. The struts need a Spring> > Compressor tool that is essentially two blocks of metal that have a hook> > molded into them, and a very long bolt connecting them together. You need> > two of these tools - they are used in sets of two. Many auto parts houses> > will let you check them out, like checking a book out from the library> > except they bill you for the tools then give a full refund on the return.> > Use the spring compressor to hold the spring in a compressed state, then> > when you remove the bolts and let the suspension drop, the spring and> > shock> > (strut) can be removed from the car, the shock replaced, and the whole> > mess> > put back in place.> > They type of spring compressor that Jeff is describing here can be very> dangerous! If it fails or slips, the pieces can easily penetrate wood and> drywall. Make sure you get directions and follow them exactly or see if can rent a professional type compressor.> YES IT CAN!!! If you have another tool that performs this job, please share it with us, or me. I thought this WAS the professional type compressor ... In any event, you will need to have the car re-aligned to re-set the camber. I recently put new shocks on my daughter's PreRunner, and the alignment was not disturbed. The adjustment bolts are not affected by this operation. That is, the adjustment is at the other end of the bars and links that have to be taken off, and the bolts that are removed fit very snuggly. I am not sure that it is true that one must always have the alignment done. Yes, there is a chance, I suppose. But I don't see any specific requirement. One should be prepared to have an alignment done, but I see no need to automatically go out and spend the money.
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Ray O 21 April 2005 01:28:58 [ permanent link ]
	"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message newsLydnW-i1etZCvvfRVn-gQ@ez2.net...> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote in message> news:9fe$42667bfc$44a4a10d$28751@msgid.meganewsservers.com...>> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message>> news:8smdnaE3B_0lEvjfRVn-2g@ez2.net...>> > You _should_ be able to take on this job. The struts need a Spring>> > Compressor tool that is essentially two blocks of metal that have a >> > hook>> > molded into them, and a very long bolt connecting them together. You> need>> > two of these tools - they are used in sets of two. Many auto parts> houses>> > will let you check them out, like checking a book out from the library>> > except they bill you for the tools then give a full refund on the> return.>> > Use the spring compressor to hold the spring in a compressed state, >> > then>> > when you remove the bolts and let the suspension drop, the spring and>> > shock>> > (strut) can be removed from the car, the shock replaced, and the whole>> > mess>> > put back in place.>> > They type of spring compressor that Jeff is describing here can be very>> dangerous! If it fails or slips, the pieces can easily penetrate wood >> and>> drywall. Make sure you get directions and follow them exactly or see if> you>> can rent a professional type compressor.>> YES IT CAN!!!> If you have another tool that performs this job, please share it with us, > or> me.> I thought this WAS the professional type compressor ...> For an example of what I consider a DIY style strut compressor: http://www.kentool.com/Shop_MPS.htm Because the 2 halves of the compressor are not connected, if 1 side breaks or flies off, the other can let go. If you're lucky, you might trash your car or garage. If you're not lucky, you're dead. To see an examaple of a professional strut compressor http://www.otctools.com/flash/strut.swf - if the link doesn't work, go to www.otctools.com and then click on the Strutamer link. Other pro compressors are wall mounted and completely encase the strut assembly so it will contain any flying pieces. In any event, you will need to have the car re-aligned to re-set the> camber.> I recently put new shocks on my daughter's PreRunner, and the alignment > was> not disturbed. The adjustment bolts are not affected by this operation. > That> is, the adjustment is at the other end of the bars and links that have to > be> taken off, and the bolts that are removed fit very snuggly.> I am not sure that it is true that one must always have the alignment > done.> Yes, there is a chance, I suppose. But I don't see any specific > requirement.> One should be prepared to have an alignment done, but I see no need to> automatically go out and spend the money.> Real trucks do not have a strut suspension so you can change a shock without having to do an alignment. The PreRunner is a real truck and does not have a strut suspension so you can change shocks without doing an alignment. Contrary to what Jeff says, you must have an alignment after changing struts in the OP's Camry. Any competent professional will confirm this. Shortcuts like marking the eccentrics or eyeballing the marks are an iffy thing and the cost of an alignment is a lot less than the cost of replacing tires because you followed bad advice. -- Ray O correct the return address punctuation to reply
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