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Oi, Vampy, check out your local (or Bluewater) Tesco petrol.

Sleeker GT Phwoar 4 May 2005 13:58:49
 Apparently, been posted to the GT4oc a few times, down your way, Tesco
are trialing replacing LRP with 99 ron unleaded.
Don't know how much but.

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Ronny 4 May 2005 15:50:24 permanent link ]
 
"Sleeker GT Phwoar" <carl.robson@bounci­ng-czechs.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ce2ad30e7­43fe3498adc6@news.in­dividual.net...> Apparently, been posted to the GT4oc a few times, down your way, Tesco> are trialing replacing LRP with 99 ron unleaded.> Don't know how much but.>
99 OCTANE STORES:> Beford 1> Cheshunt Extra> Crawley Hazelwick> Gallions Reach Extra> Gillingham Kent> Lakeside Extra> Ramsgate Manston> Salisbury 2> Sandhurst Extra> Sevenoaks Riverhead> Stevenage Extra> Winchester>
http://bbs.scoobyne­t.co.uk/showthread.p­hp?t=423066> -- > "Sorry Sir, the meatballs are Orf"> The poster formerly known as Skodapilot.> http://www.bouncing­-czechs.com

I noticed the post on Chets retro forum, is it being trialled or actually
rolled out, 99Ron sounds cool, apparently its 6p cheaper than optimax


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Sleeker GT Phwoar 4 May 2005 16:32:04 permanent link ]
 In article <2tWdnRGpOrpxK-XfRV­nyig@pipex.net>, admin@1337hosts.com­
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"Sleeker GT Phwoar" <carl.robson@bounci­ng-czechs.com> wrote in message > news:MPG.1ce2ad30e7­43fe3498adc6@news.in­dividual.net...> > Apparently, been posted to the GT4oc a few times, down your way, Tesco> > are trialing replacing LRP with 99 ron unleaded.> > Don't know how much but.> >
99 OCTANE STORES:> > Beford 1> > Cheshunt Extra> > Crawley Hazelwick> > Gallions Reach Extra> > Gillingham Kent> > Lakeside Extra> > Ramsgate Manston> > Salisbury 2> > Sandhurst Extra> > Sevenoaks Riverhead> > Stevenage Extra> > Winchester> >
http://bbs.scoobyne­t.co.uk/showthread.p­hp?t=423066> > -- > > "Sorry Sir, the meatballs are Orf"> > The poster formerly known as Skodapilot.> > http://www.bouncing­-czechs.com>
I noticed the post on Chets retro forum, is it being trialled or actually > rolled out, 99Ron sounds cool, apparently its 6p cheaper than optimax >
It's been introduced first in those areas, then nationally I think. They
are trying to do away with lead replacement petrol (LRP) and need
something that will work like old 4 star.

LRP was 97ron. Real 4 star was 98ron. A lot of family sized cars needed
4 start to run properly, then the next thing they did was take the lead
out and make it 95ron, and family cars lost their performance because
the timing had to be retarded.
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Loopy Livernose 4 May 2005 18:03:56 permanent link ]
 
"Sleeker GT Phwoar" <carl.robson@bounci­ng-czechs.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ce2ad30e7­43fe3498adc6@news.in­dividual.net...> Apparently, been posted to the GT4oc a few times, down your way, Tesco> are trialing replacing LRP with 99 ron unleaded.> Don't know how much but.>
99 OCTANE STORES:> Beford 1> Cheshunt Extra> Crawley Hazelwick> Gallions Reach Extra> Gillingham Kent> Lakeside Extra> Ramsgate Manston> Salisbury 2> Sandhurst Extra> Sevenoaks Riverhead> Stevenage Extra> Winchester>
just a daft Question, but how long before its safe for Cat equipped cars to
use this fuel? I believe LRP kills a Cat as fast as 4 star would (although
I could be wrong (but don't tell anyone I admitted that, I mean, this IS
Usenet!!)..

also will it make much difference to modern (French in my case) small cars?

will it make a huge difference when I get an new model MX 5 (if I get it)?

I'm lucky enough to have one of the trial area's near me..

Loopy


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Ronny 4 May 2005 18:13:34 permanent link ]
 
"loopy livernose" <HHGTTG@Hotmail.com­> wrote in message
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"Sleeker GT Phwoar" <carl.robson@bounci­ng-czechs.com> wrote in message> news:MPG.1ce2ad30e7­43fe3498adc6@news.in­dividual.net...>> Apparently, been posted to the GT4oc a few times, down your way, Tesco>> are trialing replacing LRP with 99 ron unleaded.>> Don't know how much but.>>
99 OCTANE STORES:>> Beford 1>> Cheshunt Extra>> Crawley Hazelwick>> Gallions Reach Extra>> Gillingham Kent>> Lakeside Extra>> Ramsgate Manston>> Salisbury 2>> Sandhurst Extra>> Sevenoaks Riverhead>> Stevenage Extra>> Winchester>>
just a daft Question, but how long before its safe for Cat equipped cars > to> use this fuel? I believe LRP kills a Cat as fast as 4 star would > (although> I could be wrong (but don't tell anyone I admitted that, I mean, this IS> Usenet!!)..>
also will it make much difference to modern (French in my case) small > cars?>
will it make a huge difference when I get an new model MX 5 (if I get it)?>
I'm lucky enough to have one of the trial area's near me..>
Loopy>

All unleaded is fine for cat equipped cars, it benefits Turbo charged cars
more as the higher octane allows the cars ECU to advance the timing..

If you car is equipped with knock sensors and a multimap programme then you
will benefit from optimax etc, in my dads 240bhp Saab the difference is
amazing, much smoother power and better fuel economy, my turbo Audi is
better but its not as noticeable, although the fuel economy goes up quite a
bit.

A MX5 or any other NA engine car is designed for 91-95 fuel and you wont
notice as much of a difference, but give it a try. It won't hurt


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DanTXD 4 May 2005 18:31:44 permanent link ]
 "loopy livernose" <HHGTTG@Hotmail.com­> wrote in message
news:d5akmu$r88$1@n­ewsg3.svr.pol.co.uk.­..>
"Sleeker GT Phwoar" <carl.robson@bounci­ng-czechs.com> wrote in message> news:MPG.1ce2ad30e7­43fe3498adc6@news.in­dividual.net...>> Apparently, been posted to the GT4oc a few times, down your way, Tesco>> are trialing replacing LRP with 99 ron unleaded.>> Don't know how much but.>>
99 OCTANE STORES:>> Beford 1>> Cheshunt Extra>> Crawley Hazelwick>> Gallions Reach Extra>> Gillingham Kent>> Lakeside Extra>> Ramsgate Manston>> Salisbury 2>> Sandhurst Extra>> Sevenoaks Riverhead>> Stevenage Extra>> Winchester>>
just a daft Question, but how long before its safe for Cat equipped cars > to> use this fuel? I believe LRP kills a Cat as fast as 4 star would > (although> I could be wrong (but don't tell anyone I admitted that, I mean, this IS> Usenet!!)..>
also will it make much difference to modern (French in my case) small > cars?>
will it make a huge difference when I get an new model MX 5 (if I get it)?>
I'm lucky enough to have one of the trial area's near me..>
Loopy>

Its not LRP, its higher octane rating unleaded - like Optimax :)­

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Dan


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Ronny 4 May 2005 18:39:16 permanent link ]
 
"DanTXD" <dan405@SdanPontAhe­rMun.com> wrote in message
news:3ds4miF6q5tpjU­1@individual.net...>­ "loopy livernose" <HHGTTG@Hotmail.com­> wrote in message > news:d5akmu$r88$1@n­ewsg3.svr.pol.co.uk.­..>>
"Sleeker GT Phwoar" <carl.robson@bounci­ng-czechs.com> wrote in message>> news:MPG.1ce2ad30e7­43fe3498adc6@news.in­dividual.net...>>> Apparently, been posted to the GT4oc a few times, down your way, Tesco>>> are trialing replacing LRP with 99 ron unleaded.>>> Don't know how much but.>>>
99 OCTANE STORES:>>> Beford 1>>> Cheshunt Extra>>> Crawley Hazelwick>>> Gallions Reach Extra>>> Gillingham Kent>>> Lakeside Extra>>> Ramsgate Manston>>> Salisbury 2>>> Sandhurst Extra>>> Sevenoaks Riverhead>>> Stevenage Extra>>> Winchester>>>
just a daft Question, but how long before its safe for Cat equipped cars >> to>> use this fuel? I believe LRP kills a Cat as fast as 4 star would >> (although>> I could be wrong (but don't tell anyone I admitted that, I mean, this IS>> Usenet!!)..>>
also will it make much difference to modern (French in my case) small >> cars?>>
will it make a huge difference when I get an new model MX 5 (if I get >> it)?>>
I'm lucky enough to have one of the trial area's near me..>>
Loopy>>
Its not LRP, its higher octane rating unleaded - like Optimax :)­>
-- > Dan>

Yeah LRP is just super unleaded but with an additive which replaces the
lead, the additive will kill your cat as quick as lead will.


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Guest 4 May 2005 18:43:42 permanent link ]
 Apparently on date Wed, 4 May 2005 15:03:56 +0100, "loopy livernose"
<HHGTTG@Hotmail.com­> said:
just a daft Question, but how long before its safe for Cat equipped cars to>use this fuel? I believe LRP kills a Cat as fast as 4 star would (although>I could be wrong (but don't tell anyone I admitted that, I mean, this IS>Usenet!!)..

It's worth realising that lead performs two functions, lubrication and octane
booster. It lubricates by coating all metal surfaces in lead compounds that
then prevent the surface from wearing or burning away.

A cat works by coming into contact with the exhaust gases and once coated with
lead or some other metal lubricant used as a replacement, has to be replaced to
greenise the car again enough to pass the MoT.

Octane number is different and is about how the mixture behaves in the
cylinders. You can tune the car in various ways and the higher the octane, the
more of the energy in the fuel you can get out, thus getting more power and
more MPG from the same quantity of fuel.

This boils down to:

If your car can use higher octane fuel - and most can't - it can do higher MPG
and be more sporty using it.

If it can't, it's no different to regular unleaded, same MPG and same
performance.

If you have an older car, designed for four or five star fuel, it will
currently be tuned down to manage on leaded, and will run *much* better on 100
octane fuel providing it is retuned for this type of fuel, and if you switch
back to the regular stuff you can expect it to pink, knock, predetonate and
therefore you would have to carry octane booster around in case you got caught
short without the right sort of fuel.

If the car needs leaded, it still needs leaded and 99 octane won't help it in
that sense, although it might hasten its demise.

In almost all cases with small / modern cars, you can run it on any unleaded
fuel and it will make no difference,.

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Sleeker GT Phwoar 4 May 2005 19:10:06 permanent link ]
 In article <d5akmu$r88$1@newsg­3.svr.pol.co.uk>, HHGTTG@Hotmail.com
says...>
"Sleeker GT Phwoar" <carl.robson@bounci­ng-czechs.com> wrote in message> news:MPG.1ce2ad30e7­43fe3498adc6@news.in­dividual.net...> > Apparently, been posted to the GT4oc a few times, down your way, Tesco> > are trialing replacing LRP with 99 ron unleaded.> > Don't know how much but.> >
99 OCTANE STORES:> > Beford 1> > Cheshunt Extra> > Crawley Hazelwick> > Gallions Reach Extra> > Gillingham Kent> > Lakeside Extra> > Ramsgate Manston> > Salisbury 2> > Sandhurst Extra> > Sevenoaks Riverhead> > Stevenage Extra> > Winchester> >
just a daft Question, but how long before its safe for Cat equipped cars to> use this fuel? I believe LRP kills a Cat as fast as 4 star would (although> I could be wrong (but don't tell anyone I admitted that, I mean, this IS> Usenet!!)..


The 99 Octane unleaded, is just harder to combust unleaded.
LRP or leaded fuel will kill your Cat. This won't
also will it make much difference to modern (French in my case) small cars?

If you've upped the compression through a Skimmed head or advanced the
timing so far you get knock, it will help.
will it make a huge difference when I get an new model MX 5 (if I get it)?

Is it an import model that should have been specced to run on 100 or 102
octane Jap unleaded? If so, it will run much better, if not, you might
get a cleaner engine or slightly better economy. If you ECU can "learn"
new fueling needs/capabilities after an ECU reset, you might find it
advances the timing further to give a btter responce and punch when
flooring it.
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"Sorry Sir, the meatballs are Orf"
The poster formerly known as Skodapilot.
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LordyUK 4 May 2005 22:05:53 permanent link ]
 
Apparently, been posted to the GT4oc a few times, down your way, Tesco> > are trialing replacing LRP with 99 ron unleaded.>
just a daft Question, but how long before its safe for Cat equipped > cars to use this fuel?

What the flying furry fuckfest are you wibbling on about ? :)­
I believe LRP kills a Cat as fast as 4 star would

Quite possibly, but 99RON unleaded is not LRP...
also will it make much difference to modern > (French in my case) small cars?

No.
will it make a huge difference when I get an new model MX 5 (if I get it)?

No.




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Loopy Livernose 4 May 2005 22:54:01 permanent link ]
 
"LordyUK" <spam@recycle.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ce31f5b69­c7c73098976f@news.nt­lworld.com...> > > Apparently, been posted to the GT4oc a few times, down your way, Tesco> > > are trialing replacing LRP with 99 ron unleaded.> >
just a daft Question, but how long before its safe for Cat equipped> > cars to use this fuel?>
What the flying furry fuckfest are you wibbling on about ? :)­


basically how long before any "traces" of LRP will be diluted into non cat
killing quantities. (assuming they havent cleaned the tank out 100% first)

sorry i didnt make that clearer.

BTW Thanks for all the responses..

Loopy


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Vamp 4 May 2005 23:31:14 permanent link ]
 
"Sleeker GT Phwoar" <carl.robson@bounci­ng-czechs.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ce2ad30e7­43fe3498adc6@news.in­dividual.net...> Apparently, been posted to the GT4oc a few times, down your way, Tesco> are trialing replacing LRP with 99 ron unleaded.> Don't know how much but.>
99 OCTANE STORES:> Beford 1> Cheshunt Extra> Crawley Hazelwick> Gallions Reach Extra> Gillingham Kent> Lakeside Extra> Ramsgate Manston> Salisbury 2> Sandhurst Extra> Sevenoaks Riverhead> Stevenage Extra> Winchester>
http://bbs.scoobyne­t.co.uk/showthread.p­hp?t=423066> -- > "Sorry Sir, the meatballs are Orf"> The poster formerly known as Skodapilot.> http://www.bouncing­-czechs.com

cheers already got a heads up from peeps at imoc.co.uk on this, hope it
takes off as there's a tesco down the road from where i work over in laindon
basildon hehe :)­


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Sleeker GT Phwoar 4 May 2005 23:38:45 permanent link ]
 In article <d5b5mq$35a$1@news7­.svr.pol.co.uk>, HHGTTG@Hotmail.com
says...>
"LordyUK" <spam@recycle.com> wrote in message> news:MPG.1ce31f5b69­c7c73098976f@news.nt­lworld.com...> > > > Apparently, been posted to the GT4oc a few times, down your way, Tesco> > > > are trialing replacing LRP with 99 ron unleaded.> > >
just a daft Question, but how long before its safe for Cat equipped> > > cars to use this fuel?> >
What the flying furry fuckfest are you wibbling on about ? :)­>
basically how long before any "traces" of LRP will be diluted into non cat> killing quantities. (assuming they havent cleaned the tank out 100% first)>
sorry i didnt make that clearer.>
BTW Thanks for all the responses..>
Loopy>
Did you run the car with the LRP in before you realised the mistake?
Depending on what chemicals were used in that particular recipe LRP, it
could be instant death CAT. May depend on whether the CAT was fully
warmed up of course.
--
Carl Robson
"Sorry Sir the meatballs are orf"
(The poster formerly known as Skodapilot)
http://www.bouncing­-czechs.com
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DanTXD 5 May 2005 04:10:33 permanent link ]
 "Sleeker GT Phwoar" <carl.robson@bounci­ng-czechs.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ce3352193­03850798979c@news.in­dividual.net...> In article <d5b5mq$35a$1@news7­.svr.pol.co.uk>, HHGTTG@Hotmail.com>­ says...>>
"LordyUK" <spam@recycle.com> wrote in message>> news:MPG.1ce31f5b69­c7c73098976f@news.nt­lworld.com...>> > > > Apparently, been posted to the GT4oc a few times, down your way, >> > > > Tesco>> > > > are trialing replacing LRP with 99 ron unleaded.>> > >
just a daft Question, but how long before its safe for Cat equipped>> > > cars to use this fuel?>> >
What the flying furry fuckfest are you wibbling on about ? :)­>>
basically how long before any "traces" of LRP will be diluted into non >> cat>> killing quantities. (assuming they havent cleaned the tank out 100% >> first)>>
sorry i didnt make that clearer.>>
BTW Thanks for all the responses..>>
Loopy>>
Did you run the car with the LRP in before you realised the mistake?> Depending on what chemicals were used in that particular recipe LRP, it> could be instant death CAT. May depend on whether the CAT was fully> warmed up of course.> --

I think he means the tank at the petrol station, the underground bit where
all the fuel is stored. If they're using the same one thats had LRP in, now
for this 99 RON stuff.

--
Dan


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Guest 5 May 2005 15:20:01 permanent link ]
 Apparently on date Wed, 4 May 2005 19:54:01 +0100, "loopy livernose"
<HHGTTG@Hotmail.com­> said:
"LordyUK" <spam@recycle.com> wrote in message>news:MPG.1c­e31f5b69c7c73098976f­@news.ntlworld.com..­.>> > > Apparently, been posted to the GT4oc a few times, down your way, Tesco>> > > are trialing replacing LRP with 99 ron unleaded.>> >
just a daft Question, but how long before its safe for Cat equipped>> > cars to use this fuel?>>
What the flying furry fuckfest are you wibbling on about ? :)­>
basically how long before any "traces" of LRP will be diluted into non cat>killing quantities. (assuming they havent cleaned the tank out 100% first)>
sorry i didnt make that clearer.

Ah, quite different. Pretty much straight away. The traces of lead that are
left in parts per million overnight might get onto the cat but since it is only
spots and bits, it'll burn them off when it gets hot.


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