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Dojj 19 April 2005 23:57:46
 ok folks, time to rub your brains a bit and do some work for a change :)­

I want an in car recordable camera that I can mount discreetly in the front
bumper somewhere and can record direct to a digital source (hard drive or
computerable system like a DVD or vcd recorder)

it's got to be hard wired into the car and be fixed, but it also has to be
removable so I can take it from vehicle to vehicle if I so wish

so, I want a pin hole camera I can fix to the bumper, trail it to the cd
burner somewhere in the car, and power it directly from the battery or
cigarette lighter or the like

and I don't want to spend millions on it either, I've got bills to pay and I
don't want to be spending money on buying a laptop to record 2 minutes worth
of film to

suggestions please


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Steve 20 April 2005 01:30:33 permanent link ]
 
" dojj" <dojj1@dojj1.fsnet.­co.uk> wrote in message
news:d43nrg$btc$1@n­ews8.svr.pol.co.uk..­.> ok folks, time to rub your brains a bit and do some work for a change :)­>
I want an in car recordable camera that I can mount discreetly in the > front bumper somewhere and can record direct to a digital source (hard > drive or computerable system like a DVD or vcd recorder)>
it's got to be hard wired into the car and be fixed, but it also has to be > removable so I can take it from vehicle to vehicle if I so wish>
so, I want a pin hole camera I can fix to the bumper, trail it to the cd > burner somewhere in the car, and power it directly from the battery or > cigarette lighter or the like>
and I don't want to spend millions on it either, I've got bills to pay and > I don't want to be spending money on buying a laptop to record 2 minutes > worth of film to>
suggestions please>

What country are you in? Probably illegal as data protection (number plates
etc). beleive there is other issues with CCTV with regards to other privacy
laws.

And why would you want to do this?

Steve


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Tim S Kemp 20 April 2005 01:39:53 permanent link ]
 Steve wrote:
What country are you in? Probably illegal as data protection (number> plates etc). beleive there is other issues with CCTV with regards to> other privacy laws.

You can film what you like in a public area for private use.

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Homer 20 April 2005 01:43:54 permanent link ]
 " dojj" <dojj1@dojj1.fsnet.­co.uk> wrote in message
news:d43nrg$btc$1@n­ews8.svr.pol.co.uk..­.> ok folks, time to rub your brains a bit and do some work for a change :)­>
I want an in car recordable camera that I can mount discreetly in the > front bumper somewhere and can record direct to a digital source (hard > drive or computerable system like a DVD or vcd recorder)>
it's got to be hard wired into the car and be fixed, but it also has to be > removable so I can take it from vehicle to vehicle if I so wish>
so, I want a pin hole camera I can fix to the bumper, trail it to the cd > burner somewhere in the car, and power it directly from the battery or > cigarette lighter or the like>
and I don't want to spend millions on it either, I've got bills to pay and > I don't want to be spending money on buying a laptop to record 2 minutes > worth of film to>
suggestions please


How about a Mini ITX motherboard http://www.mini-itx­.com/ , add some memory
and a hard drive, 12V PSU and a decent webcam?



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Brian 20 April 2005 01:57:16 permanent link ]
 
"Steve" <no.way@com> wrote in message
news:ZLe9e.3065$Pc.­49@fe1.news.blueyond­er.co.uk...>
" dojj" <dojj1@dojj1.fsnet.­co.uk> wrote in message > news:d43nrg$btc$1@n­ews8.svr.pol.co.uk..­.>> ok folks, time to rub your brains a bit and do some work for a change :)­>>
I want an in car recordable camera that I can mount discreetly in the >> front bumper somewhere and can record direct to a digital source (hard >> drive or computerable system like a DVD or vcd recorder)>>
it's got to be hard wired into the car and be fixed, but it also has to >> be removable so I can take it from vehicle to vehicle if I so wish>>
so, I want a pin hole camera I can fix to the bumper, trail it to the cd >> burner somewhere in the car, and power it directly from the battery or >> cigarette lighter or the like>>
and I don't want to spend millions on it either, I've got bills to pay >> and I don't want to be spending money on buying a laptop to record 2 >> minutes worth of film to>>
suggestions please>>
What country are you in? Probably illegal as data protection (number > plates etc). beleive there is other issues with CCTV with regards to other > privacy laws.>
And why would you want to do this?>
Steve>
Hello,

Firstly there are many systems on the market that can record, taxi drivers
use them and they can be set on permanent record. The other thing about the
data protection act is rubbish - they would all need to be covered up !
They are put on cars for a reason, and anyone with friends can get a full
trace done anyway to give keeper details. I've done it myself when a
scumbag taxi driver crashed into me and used friends as witnesses, but also
injured passengers. Two are in prison now as they did it one time too
often.
The camera systems are not hard to find if you really want one. You know
how to find this group!


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Loopy Livernose 20 April 2005 02:19:42 permanent link ]
 
" dojj" <dojj1@dojj1.fsnet.­co.uk> wrote in message
news:d43nrg$btc$1@n­ews8.svr.pol.co.uk..­.> ok folks, time to rub your brains a bit and do some work for a change :)­>
I want an in car recordable camera that I can mount discreetly in the
front> bumper somewhere and can record direct to a digital source (hard drive or> computerable system like a DVD or vcd recorder)>
it's got to be hard wired into the car and be fixed, but it also has to be> removable so I can take it from vehicle to vehicle if I so wish>
so, I want a pin hole camera I can fix to the bumper, trail it to the cd> burner somewhere in the car, and power it directly from the battery or> cigarette lighter or the like>
and I don't want to spend millions on it either, I've got bills to pay and
don't want to be spending money on buying a laptop to record 2 minutes
worth> of film to>
suggestions please

inverter, video recorder and cheap CCTV camera few wires n stuff.. prob be
able to do whole thing for about £100 brand new (wont need more than a 150W
inverter I don't think)

I suppose it really depends more on how good the pictures are you want from
it!!

Loopy


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Tom De Moor 20 April 2005 03:47:57 permanent link ]
 In article <d43nrg$btc$1@news8­.svr.pol.co.uk>, dojj1@dojj1.fsnet.c­o.uk says...> ok folks, time to rub your brains a bit and do some work for a change :)­>
I want an in car recordable camera that I can mount discreetly in the front > bumper somewhere and can record direct to a digital source (hard drive or > computerable system like a DVD or vcd recorder)>
it's got to be hard wired into the car and be fixed, but it also has to be > removable so I can take it from vehicle to vehicle if I so wish>
so, I want a pin hole camera I can fix to the bumper, trail it to the cd > burner somewhere in the car, and power it directly from the battery or > cigarette lighter or the like>
and I don't want to spend millions on it either, I've got bills to pay and I > don't want to be spending money on buying a laptop to record 2 minutes worth > of film to>
suggestions please>
http://www.henrys.c­o.uk/cctv.htm

You describe a camera + stand-alone digital video recorder. (DVR)

I guess you will need a budget around 400 UKP. Ebaying and some luck will cut
the budget in half. Check however when buying on ebay that the item is in the
UK and not in Hongkong.

Most of the printcameras and some of the DVR's are 12V-powered. Monting a
camera in a lamp is a piece a cake. Images can be transferred by swapping
harddisks, over the Internet or on some models burned immediatly on a CD.

Who/what are you planning to film?

Tom De Moor




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Guest 20 April 2005 12:20:21 permanent link ]
 Apparently on date Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:57:46 +0100, " dojj"
<dojj1@dojj1.fsnet.­co.uk> said:
ok folks, time to rub your brains a bit and do some work for a change :)­>
I want an in car recordable camera that I can mount discreetly in the front >bumper somewhere and can record direct to a digital source (hard drive or >computerable system like a DVD or vcd recorder)>
it's got to be hard wired into the car and be fixed, but it also has to be >removable so I can take it from vehicle to vehicle if I so wish>
so, I want a pin hole camera I can fix to the bumper, trail it to the cd >burner somewhere in the car, and power it directly from the battery or >cigarette lighter or the like>
and I don't want to spend millions on it either, I've got bills to pay and I >don't want to be spending money on buying a laptop to record 2 minutes worth >of film to>
suggestions please

Done this.

One way is to get a spy camera, the sort that is half an inch across, and
transmits over a short distance to a receiver that you would plug into a VCR on
long play with a long tape, running on an inverter in the boot.

I say this because I have all the kit here and it works very nicely.

The other is to just buy a camcorder, although the lens would be damaged /
dirtied quite quickly (the pinhole sort is a very much smaller target.)

The basic spy cameras can be had for quite reasonable prices, this one is 85
quid but the price can be halved and better if you look around:
http://tinyurl.com/­7czk7

The other idea is dome cameras, these have the advantage that:
a) it is protected from the elements
b) people may well believe you have a blue light in it so will behave
http://tinyurl.com/­dmf4a

OTOH they tend to be wired rather than wireless, which limits where you can put
the camera / vcr. Probably perfect if you can live with it on the parcel shelf.

Turning the VCR on and off is a pain, the obvious thing is to wire it through
the ignition so the inverter comes on when you are driving and goes off when
you aren't. This suggests finding a VCR that can be set up to automatically
revert to LP recording when powered up. Mine requires being told to record on
the remote. Then you probably will find, like I did, that you basically also
need a small TV screen to monitor what's happening, again these are easy enough
to find and the price is fairly reasonable, e.g. 40 quid up to 100 or whatever
else they add on if they think you won't look around for a better price:
http://tinyurl.com/­d5jfc

Basically it is easy enough to do depending on what bits you can fnd and
afford, and would be 100% easier if you can find/buy a VCR that automatically
went into record mode when you powered it up.


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Depresion 20 April 2005 17:42:04 permanent link ]
 
" dojj" <dojj1@dojj1.fsnet.­co.uk> wrote in message
news:d43nrg$btc$1@n­ews8.svr.pol.co.uk..­.> ok folks, time to rub your brains a bit and do some work for a change :)­>
I want an in car recordable camera that I can mount discreetly in the front > bumper somewhere and can record direct to a digital source (hard drive or > computerable system like a DVD or vcd recorder)>
it's got to be hard wired into the car and be fixed, but it also has to be > removable so I can take it from vehicle to vehicle if I so wish

How confident in your electronics are you?

http://www.maplin.c­o.uk
item SH69A (will need a little weather proofing)

and
http://www.ebuyer.c­om
item 64115 (you will probably want a memory stick as well)

Those should see the basics are small easily removed but the quality isn't
fantastic for TV work and the small cameras tend not to be too good in low LUX
conditions.


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Dojj 21 April 2005 01:24:31 permanent link ]
 
"Tom De Moor" <viperengine@remove­this.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ccfb725c1­925aa898b114@news.te­lenet.be...> In article <d43nrg$btc$1@news8­.svr.pol.co.uk>, dojj1@dojj1.fsnet.c­o.uk > says...>> ok folks, time to rub your brains a bit and do some work for a change :)­>>
I want an in car recordable camera that I can mount discreetly in the >> front>> bumper somewhere and can record direct to a digital source (hard drive or>> computerable system like a DVD or vcd recorder)>>
it's got to be hard wired into the car and be fixed, but it also has to >> be>> removable so I can take it from vehicle to vehicle if I so wish>>
so, I want a pin hole camera I can fix to the bumper, trail it to the cd>> burner somewhere in the car, and power it directly from the battery or>> cigarette lighter or the like>>
and I don't want to spend millions on it either, I've got bills to pay >> and I>> don't want to be spending money on buying a laptop to record 2 minutes >> worth>> of film to>>
suggestions please>>
You describe a camera + stand-alone digital video recorder. (DVR)>
I guess you will need a budget around 400 UKP. Ebaying and some luck will > cut> the budget in half. Check however when buying on ebay that the item is in > the> UK and not in Hongkong.>
Most of the printcameras and some of the DVR's are 12V-powered. Monting a> camera in a lamp is a piece a cake. Images can be transferred by swapping> harddisks, over the Internet or on some models burned immediatly on a CD.>
Who/what are you planning to film?>
the track in front of me :)­
Tom De Moor>


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Tom De Moor 21 April 2005 02:28:44 permanent link ]
 In article <d46hae$dqf$1@news7­.svr.pol.co.uk>, dojj1@dojj1.fsnet.c­o.uk says...>
Who/what are you planning to film?> >
the track in front of me :)­>
Aha, then there is a cheaper option.

Get a friend, owner of a good digital camera, and strap him in the passenger
seat.

It has 2 advantages: obviously you get a copy of the film and ever more
important: you feel a bit responsible for him. Believe me : it's better for
your car and you'll notice his reactions when you overdrive the car ;-)­

A German friend does that on all tracksessions which are for testing. He even
sells "Mitfahrten" (for 100 Eur you can be in the passenger seat of his GT3 for
1 lap at the Nurnburgring). On an afternoon he does about 10 laps but there is
no profit: the Ring eats tires and fuel :-)­

If you want racing pictures, you can bolt a digital camera to your dashboard or
fixe one on a bracket on the rollcage.

Tom De Moor


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Dojj 22 April 2005 01:03:35 permanent link ]
 
"Tom De Moor" <viperengine@remove­this.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cd0f62a52­c6620598b11f@news.te­lenet.be...> In article <d46hae$dqf$1@news7­.svr.pol.co.uk>, dojj1@dojj1.fsnet.c­o.uk > says...>>
Who/what are you planning to film?>> >
the track in front of me :)­>>
Aha, then there is a cheaper option.>
Get a friend, owner of a good digital camera, and strap him in the > passenger> seat.>
no can do mate
no passengers allowed and seeing as i don't have a roll cage, i can't bolt a
camera to it :(­
so i got to do the sneaky thing :(­

It has 2 advantages: obviously you get a copy of the film and ever more> important: you feel a bit responsible for him. Believe me : it's better > for> your car and you'll notice his reactions when you overdrive the car ;-)­>
A German friend does that on all tracksessions which are for testing. He > even> sells "Mitfahrten" (for 100 Eur you can be in the passenger seat of his > GT3 for> 1 lap at the Nurnburgring). On an afternoon he does about 10 laps but > there is> no profit: the Ring eats tires and fuel :-)­>
If you want racing pictures, you can bolt a digital camera to your > dashboard or> fixe one on a bracket on the rollcage.>
Tom De Moor>


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Depresion 22 April 2005 02:55:42 permanent link ]
 
" dojj" <dojj1@dojj1.fsnet.­co.uk> wrote in message
news:d494f5$dgu$1@n­ews8.svr.pol.co.uk..­.>
"Tom De Moor" <viperengine@remove­this.gmail.com> wrote in message > news:MPG.1cd0f62a52­c6620598b11f@news.te­lenet.be...>> In article <d46hae$dqf$1@news7­.svr.pol.co.uk>, dojj1@dojj1.fsnet.c­o.uk >> says...>>>
Who/what are you planning to film?>>> >
the track in front of me :)­>>>
Aha, then there is a cheaper option.>>
Get a friend, owner of a good digital camera, and strap him in the passenger>> seat.>>
no can do mate> no passengers allowed and seeing as i don't have a roll cage, i can't bolt a > camera to it :(­> so i got to do the sneaky thing :(­>

I know a couple of people using the mustek unit in race cars but normally as a
2nd camera as the quality from the small cameras and the digital system isn't
really upto full TV quality so they use them for cutaway shots (say out the
side, back or of the driver)


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oscar 26 November 2007 15:20:46 permanent link ]
 B-)­ You've earned my respect. With the kind of drivers there are out there now a days, it is important to have a rear mounted recordable, and front mounted cameras. I have been involved in six, count them, six rear end colisions in the past four years, and the last one, the idiot who hit me did not exist in the system. All his documents were forgeries. Backup cameras are find and dandy for those who need that extra "eye", but record what's behind you during heavy traffic and you can rest assure that the next time you are hit you will have the proof that it was their fault and not yours.
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