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Re: Can anybody help me pass emission test in New Jersey?
Lawrence Glickman 10 May 2005 03:53:31
	On 5 May 2005 11:40:13 -0700, "Bugarka" <Bugarka@gmail.com> wrote: Hello! I desperately need help with passing the emission test of my>car. here is the situation: The car is 93 Toyota tercel with about 135k>miles on. i took it to mechanic but they want a minumum of $700 to fix>it...They said i was burning oil and the valves needed replacement....I>am a college student with absolutely no ability to pay $700 but I need>the car till the end of the summer to move out of college and get all>my stuff in a new apartment. If I keep driving with the rejected>sticker on, they threaten to de-register me. Does anyone know a place>in New Jersey where I can go, pay double or something and just pass>emissions? Everything else is Ok with the car, I just need to drive it>legally temporarily but don't have the money to fix it Thanks for the>advice. aiding and abetting criminal activity... You can make anything you want with a computer and a color printer. Lg
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Alex Rodriguez 6 May 2005 00:48:47 [ permanent link ]
	In article <1115318413.771727.244820@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, Bugarka@gmail.com says...> Hello! I desperately need help with passing the emission test of my>car. here is the situation: The car is 93 Toyota tercel with about 135k>miles on. i took it to mechanic but they want a minumum of $700 to fix>it...They said i was burning oil and the valves needed replacement....I>am a college student with absolutely no ability to pay $700 but I need>the car till the end of the summer to move out of college and get all>my stuff in a new apartment. If I keep driving with the rejected>sticker on, they threaten to de-register me. Does anyone know a place>in New Jersey where I can go, pay double or something and just pass>emissions? No matter how much you pay, you car is not going to pass the emissions test unless you fixt the problem. Everything else is Ok with the car, I just need to drive it>legally temporarily but don't have the money to fix it Thanks for the>advice. If you don't fix the emssions, then you can't legally drive it. ------------ Alex
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Mjt 6 May 2005 01:14:14 [ permanent link ]
	(Alex Rodriguez <adr5@columbia.edu>) scribbled: emissions?> No matter how much you pay, you car is not going to pass the emissions> test unless you fixt the problem. ... agreed. here in Texas, the test center's computer is hooked to DPS (Dept Public Safety), so there is no way to alter the report. -- << http://michaeljtobler.homelinux.com (Metallica - Battery) >> If the American dream is for Americans only, it will remain our dream and never be our destiny. - Ren'e de Visme Williamson
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Mike Romain 6 May 2005 01:31:12 [ permanent link ]
	You should start off by posting your emissions numbers. Telling you you need $700.00 in repairs is the biggest scam going these days. They took a 'perfect' car to a hundred emissions shops here in Canada and 60% said the vehicle needed over $500.00 in repairs. 40% were honest and passed it. Then if the numbers really 'do' mean you need head work, you can easily do the labor yourself with the help of a good repair manual. I have managed to own and drive really nice old cars I couldn't normally afford because I learned how to fix them. If it is only something silly like valve seals, that can even be done in the vehicle without taking it all apart by using a couple easy tricks folks here like me can tell you about. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Bugarka wrote:> Hello! I desperately need help with passing the emission test of my> car. here is the situation: The car is 93 Toyota tercel with about 135k> miles on. i took it to mechanic but they want a minumum of $700 to fix> it...They said i was burning oil and the valves needed replacement....I> am a college student with absolutely no ability to pay $700 but I need> the car till the end of the summer to move out of college and get all> my stuff in a new apartment. If I keep driving with the rejected> sticker on, they threaten to de-register me. Does anyone know a place> in New Jersey where I can go, pay double or something and just pass> emissions? Everything else is Ok with the car, I just need to drive it> legally temporarily but don't have the money to fix it Thanks for the> advice.
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Daniel J. Stern 6 May 2005 01:47:57 [ permanent link ]
	On Thu, 5 May 2005, Bugarka wrote: Hello! I desperately need help with passing the emission test of my car.> here is the situation: The car is 93 Toyota tercel with about 135k miles> on. i took it to mechanic but they want a minumum of $700 to fix> it...They said i was burning oil and the valves needed replacement....I> am a college student with absolutely no ability to pay $700 but I need> the car till the end of the summer to move out of college and get all my> stuff in a new apartment. If I keep driving with the rejected sticker> on, they threaten to de-register me. Does anyone know a place in New> Jersey where I can go, pay double or something and just pass emissions?> Everything else is Ok with the car, I just need to drive it legally> temporarily but don't have the money to fix it Thanks for the advice. So in other words, you absolve yourself of any and all responsibility for the crap that comes out of your car's tailpipe. Everybody else has to breathe it, but that's not your problem, because you "can't afford" it. Guess what? Owning a car costs money. If you can't afford it, stop driving.
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Danny 6 May 2005 04:26:45 [ permanent link ]
	Lawrence Glickman wrote:> On 5 May 2005 11:40:13 -0700, "Bugarka" <Bugarka@gmail.com> wrote:> Hello! I desperately need help with passing the emission test of my>>car. here is the situation: The car is 93 Toyota tercel with about 135k>>miles on. i took it to mechanic but they want a minumum of $700 to fix>>it...They said i was burning oil and the valves needed replacement....I>>am a college student with absolutely no ability to pay $700 but I need>>the car till the end of the summer to move out of college and get all>>my stuff in a new apartment. If I keep driving with the rejected>>sticker on, they threaten to de-register me. Does anyone know a place>>in New Jersey where I can go, pay double or something and just pass>>emissions? Everything else is Ok with the car, I just need to drive it>>legally temporarily but don't have the money to fix it Thanks for the>>advice.> aiding and abetting criminal activity...> You can make anything you want with a computer and a color printer.> By that reasoning why don't we all start running off 20's. Danny
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Lawrence Glickman 6 May 2005 04:42:15 [ permanent link ]
	On Thu, 05 May 2005 20:26:45 -0400, Danny <M@hotmail.com> wrote: Lawrence Glickman wrote:>> On 5 May 2005 11:40:13 -0700, "Bugarka" <Bugarka@gmail.com> wrote:>> Hello! I desperately need help with passing the emission test of my>>>car. here is the situation: The car is 93 Toyota tercel with about 135k>>>miles on. i took it to mechanic but they want a minumum of $700 to fix>>>it...They said i was burning oil and the valves needed replacement....I>>>am a college student with absolutely no ability to pay $700 but I need>>>the car till the end of the summer to move out of college and get all>>>my stuff in a new apartment. If I keep driving with the rejected>>>sticker on, they threaten to de-register me. Does anyone know a place>>>in New Jersey where I can go, pay double or something and just pass>>>emissions? Everything else is Ok with the car, I just need to drive it>>>legally temporarily but don't have the money to fix it Thanks for the>>>advice.>> aiding and abetting criminal activity...>> You can make anything you want with a computer and a color printer.>> By that reasoning why don't we all start running off 20's.> Danny Some people do exactly that. I was offered a job working on a machine that identifies counterfeit money. It is hush hush technology, and locked in the basement of a certain bank. There is a lot of counterfeit everything in circulation, but we usually only check for money and passports. New technology is becoming available to identify counterfeit passports ( biometrics ), but the money in circulation is still problematic. Most banks will catch it with special machines, but there is only the possibility of removing it from circulation, not identifying who or where it came from. Lg
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TeGGeR® 6 May 2005 05:40:53 [ permanent link ]
	Lawrence Glickman <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote in news:v4fl71pfsbriib68oi53nkhcgb8utk7u2k@4ax.com: There is a lot of counterfeit everything in circulation, but we> usually only check for money and passports. New technology is> becoming available to identify counterfeit passports ( biometrics ),> but the money in circulation is still problematic. Most banks will> catch it with special machines, No. Most banks catch it with ordinary human tellers. The machines are secondary. My wife works for the retail side of a large bank. When she was a teller she saw counterfeits every single week (sometimes every day). Almost all of them were extremely obvious once you were used to looking at currency all the time. When you go to the bank and hand over a stack of bills, the teller will count them in front of you. She is also looking for counterfeits as she counts, though you wouldn't know that to watch her. She can spot a counterfeit in the split second she sees the bill as she counts through them (assuming she's paying attention). Tellers catch more than 90% of all counterfeits that enter the bank. Counterfeits are most likely to be accepted by people not used to scrutinizing money. Counterfeits on rare occasion get by even the tellers, and it's a mark of shame for that to happen. If it gets past the teller, it will eventually be caught by the counting machines, which are also programmed to scan bills for fakery as they're counted. For individuals, relying on machinery is actually the worst way of doing it. Once you start relying on the marking pens, UV light machines, scanners, and the like, you never learn how they ought to LOOK and FEEL, which is where the counterfeiters screw up most. I've done work with companies that make bill-changing machinery for vending centers. They can easily set them up to catch almost 100% of the counterfeit that are fed into them, but that runs the risk of rejecting too many legit bills, which pisses off customers. The acceptable reject rate is about 5% (IIRC). The technology is partly patented, partly prior art, with most innovations being in the software algorithms used to distiguish fakes. The optics are basically the same in any design, using reflective and refractive inputs to the software. The weird thing is, businesses get all squirrely about 50s and 100s, and won't accept them, but almost all counterfeiting is actually in 5s, 10s, and 20s, bills small enough that nobody pays any attention to them. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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TeGGeR® 6 May 2005 05:55:56 [ permanent link ]
	"Bugarka" <Bugarka@gmail.com> wrote in news:1115318413.771727.244820@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com: Hello! I desperately need help with passing the emission test of my> car. here is the situation: The car is 93 Toyota tercel with about 135k> miles on. i took it to mechanic but they want a minumum of $700 to fix> it...They said i was burning oil and the valves needed replacement....I> am a college student with absolutely no ability to pay $700 but I need> the car till the end of the summer to move out of college and get all> my stuff in a new apartment. If I keep driving with the rejected> sticker on, they threaten to de-register me. Does anyone know a place> in New Jersey where I can go, pay double or something and just pass> emissions? Everything else is Ok with the car, I just need to drive it> legally temporarily but don't have the money to fix it Thanks for the> advice.> Can't you just get a 1-year conditional pass, or do you need to show proof of having spent the $700 first? If you can't get it to pass legitimately, or obtain a cheap conditional, all you can do is either 1) sell the car, or 2) find somebody willing to pass the car by putting a different vehicle on the dyno, i.e.: willing to commit fraud. For that you need to know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody. Ask around. It won't be free... You could also "move" your official residence to another state that does not have emissions testing, re-register your car there, and "commute" to your college from there, but this option may not be practical. Why don't you post your numbers? You might be closer to passing than you think. -- TeGGeR®
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Lawrence Glickman 6 May 2005 05:56:08 [ permanent link ]
	On 6 May 2005 01:40:53 GMT, "TeGGeRВ®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote: Lawrence Glickman <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote in >news:v4fl71pfsbriib68oi53nkhcgb8utk7u2k@4ax.com:> There is a lot of counterfeit everything in circulation, but we>> usually only check for money and passports. New technology is>> becoming available to identify counterfeit passports ( biometrics ),>> but the money in circulation is still problematic. Most banks will>> catch it with special machines,> No. Most banks catch it with ordinary human tellers. The machines are >secondary. Let me just say, the bank I was going to be working at was/is one of the largest in the USA, and there is no way in Hades that there are enough human's to verify the integrity of each and every bill that goes through that banking system. Were that not the case, these machines wouldn't even need to exist. The volume of money I was going to be involved with was some percentage of what you will find at the US Mint. Enormous volume, 24 hour a day armed guards, think of me sitting in a hole in the ground surrounded by hundreds of millions in uncounted currency. It is my job to separate the wheat from the chaff. I would not live long enough to do that without machinery designed to automate the task. Lg My wife works for the retail side of a large bank. When she was a teller >she saw counterfeits every single week (sometimes every day). Almost all of >them were extremely obvious once you were used to looking at currency all >the time.> When you go to the bank and hand over a stack of bills, the teller will >count them in front of you. She is also looking for counterfeits as she >counts, though you wouldn't know that to watch her. She can spot a >counterfeit in the split second she sees the bill as she counts through >them (assuming she's paying attention). Tellers catch more than 90% of all >counterfeits that enter the bank.> Counterfeits are most likely to be accepted by people not used to >scrutinizing money. Counterfeits on rare occasion get by even the tellers, >and it's a mark of shame for that to happen. If it gets past the teller, it >will eventually be caught by the counting machines, which are also >programmed to scan bills for fakery as they're counted.> For individuals, relying on machinery is actually the worst way of doing >it. Once you start relying on the marking pens, UV light machines, >scanners, and the like, you never learn how they ought to LOOK and FEEL, >which is where the counterfeiters screw up most.> I've done work with companies that make bill-changing machinery for vending >centers. They can easily set them up to catch almost 100% of the >counterfeit that are fed into them, but that runs the risk of rejecting too >many legit bills, which pisses off customers. The acceptable reject rate is >about 5% (IIRC). The technology is partly patented, partly prior art, with >most innovations being in the software algorithms used to distiguish fakes. >The optics are basically the same in any design, using reflective and >refractive inputs to the software.> The weird thing is, businesses get all squirrely about 50s and 100s, and >won't accept them, but almost all counterfeiting is actually in 5s, 10s, >and 20s, bills small enough that nobody pays any attention to them.
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TeGGeR® 6 May 2005 06:09:18 [ permanent link ]
	Lawrence Glickman <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote in news:ifjl71tcqjbf5utt1la4l24d017buodhbd@4ax.com: On 6 May 2005 01:40:53 GMT, "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:> Lawrence Glickman <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote in >>news:v4fl71pfsbriib68oi53nkhcgb8utk7u2k@4ax.com:>> There is a lot of counterfeit everything in circulation, but we>>> usually only check for money and passports. New technology is>>> becoming available to identify counterfeit passports ( biometrics ),>>> but the money in circulation is still problematic. Most banks will>>> catch it with special machines,>> No. Most banks catch it with ordinary human tellers. The machines are >>secondary.> Let me just say, the bank I was going to be working at was/is one of> the largest in the USA, and there is no way in Hades that there are> enough human's to verify the integrity of each and every bill that> goes through that banking system. Every bill that comes in through the tellers at every bank gets looked at by hand. If the bills don't come in through the tellers--such as the ones delivered by armored truck each day--then you're right, they'd just be fed through the counting machines. I neglected to consider those, sorry. However, those bills from the armored cars have already passed through some human teller's hands at some point before they were bundled, so... Wife says each bag of money bears the bank stamp and branch stamp, and each bundle of bills inside bears the teller's stamp. If there's a counterfeit inside the bundle that has somehow got past the originating branch, and it gets caught by the receiving branch, the originating branch is on the hook for it. This is why the tellers are trained to spot them first. Still, the number of counterfeits that get past the tellers and counters is probably less than 0.1%. -- TeGGeR®
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Lawrence Glickman 6 May 2005 06:27:31 [ permanent link ]
	On 6 May 2005 02:09:18 GMT, "TeGGeRВ®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote: Every bill that comes in through the tellers at every bank gets looked at >by hand. If the bills don't come in through the tellers--such as the ones >delivered by armored truck each day--then you're right, they'd just be fed >through the counting machines. I neglected to consider those, sorry. >However, those bills from the armored cars have already passed through some >human teller's hands at some point before they were bundled, so...> Wife says each bag of money bears the bank stamp and branch stamp, and each >bundle of bills inside bears the teller's stamp. If there's a counterfeit >inside the bundle that has somehow got past the originating branch, and it >gets caught by the receiving branch, the originating branch is on the hook >for it. This is why the tellers are trained to spot them first.> Still, the number of counterfeits that get past the tellers and counters is >probably less than 0.1%. The amount of money I would be working with is in the hundreds of millions of dollars US, and the idea is to not only identify counterfeit bills, but to also identify worn bills that need to be removed from circulation and replaced with newly printed currency. So you see, I figured if I took the job and anybody of the nefarious types found out what I did for a living, I was putting my own life in jeopardy along with the lives of my family. But what really put me off was I was going to be locked in a vault, impenetrable by an atomic bomb, for my entire shift, and scanned/searched in a most intimate way on the way out the door. I said how much does this job pay? Am I allowed to ask this question now? Forget about it, because I have claustrophobia for one thing, and like my coffee/tea and crumpets, and perhaps a cigarette every now and then, and I thought to myself I am being paid to be locked up in a maximum security prison every working day until I retire or die, whichever comes first. Not only that, if that isn't bad enough, I have to repair/calibrate the machines at a technical level, which is a bit complicated. Maybe this job is perfect for somebody else, but not me, so thanks for your time, and it was nice meeting you. Just as special screening is required to find the right kind of people who can live in the close quarters of a submarine for 6 months at a time, I am NOT that kind of person, I like to take coffee breaks, walk to the window and look at the sunshine and trees, and breath some fresh air, and go to Popeye's chicken for lunch. But it is a dirty job, and somebody has to do it. I took a job with Panasonic Factory Automation instead. Their environment was much more to my liking, lifestyle wise. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Now to the original question about passing the emission test, I agree that OP should post his numbers so engine experts here can help him get his certificate of approval the legal way. I think that is the best idea. I know OP said he doesn't have $700 for this, but I am certain that with some good advice, his out of pocket expenses will be a small fraction of that once he gets hold of some know-how from this n/g. Lg
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Y_p_w 6 May 2005 06:54:25 [ permanent link ]
	TeGGeRВ® wrote:> "Bugarka" <Bugarka@gmail.com> wrote in > news:1115318413.771727.244820@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:> Hello! I desperately need help with passing the emission test of my>>car. here is the situation: The car is 93 Toyota tercel with about 135k>>miles on. i took it to mechanic but they want a minumum of $700 to fix>>it...They said i was burning oil and the valves needed replacement....I>>am a college student with absolutely no ability to pay $700 but I need>>the car till the end of the summer to move out of college and get all>>my stuff in a new apartment. If I keep driving with the rejected>>sticker on, they threaten to de-register me. Does anyone know a place>>in New Jersey where I can go, pay double or something and just pass>>emissions? Everything else is Ok with the car, I just need to drive it>>legally temporarily but don't have the money to fix it Thanks for the>>advice.>> Can't you just get a 1-year conditional pass, or do you need to show proof > of having spent the $700 first?> If you can't get it to pass legitimately, or obtain a cheap conditional, > all you can do is either> 1) sell the car, or> 2) find somebody willing to pass the car by putting a different vehicle on > the dyno, i.e.: willing to commit fraud. For that you need to know somebody > who knows somebody who knows somebody. Ask around. It won't be free... Why is everyone suggesting or claiming illegal means? If it's severely blowing smoke, then 20W-50 oil might possibly do the trick, and might even be a good idea to get the car to last until the end of summer. I might even suggest a can of "Restore" oil treatment as a last resort.
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TeGGeR® 6 May 2005 13:02:44 [ permanent link ]
	y_p_w <y_p_w@hotmail.com> wrote in news:B%Aee.7475$BE3.4296@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net: Why is everyone suggesting or claiming illegal means? If it's> severely blowing smoke, then 20W-50 oil might possibly do the> trick, and might even be a good idea to get the car to last> until the end of summer. That's a good idea. Last place I worked a guy had a Hyundai Excel with an oil consumption problem. He failed on visible smoke. The emissions test technician was the one that suggested 20W-50 as a workaround. Unfortunately, it didn't work in his case and he still failed on visible smoke, so he just sold the car. -- TeGGeR®
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Y_p_w 6 May 2005 19:21:38 [ permanent link ]
	TeGGeRВ® wrote: y_p_w <y_p_w@hotmail.com> wrote in> news:B%Aee.7475$BE3.4296@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net: > Why is everyone suggesting or claiming illegal means? If it's>>severely blowing smoke, then 20W-50 oil might possibly do the>>trick, and might even be a good idea to get the car to last>>until the end of summer.> That's a good idea. Last place I worked a guy had a Hyundai Excel with an > oil consumption problem. He failed on visible smoke. The emissions test > technician was the one that suggested 20W-50 as a workaround. > Unfortunately, it didn't work in his case and he still failed on visible > smoke, so he just sold the car. I was thinking 20W-50 oil and maybe a bottle of one of those "miracle" stop smoke additives. This car may be beyond that, but it's only about $15.
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Ed 6 May 2005 22:44:13 [ permanent link ]
	Do you have your readings you can post? Who says the garage is right?
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B1377@Worldnet.Att.Net 10 May 2005 03:53:31 [ permanent link ]
	On Fri, 06 May 2005 15:21:38 GMT, y_p_w <y_p_w@hotmail.com> wrote: TeGGeR® wrote:> y_p_w <y_p_w@hotmail.com> wrote in>> news:B%Aee.7475$BE3.4296@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net: >> Why is everyone suggesting or claiming illegal means? If it's>>>severely blowing smoke, then 20W-50 oil might possibly do the>>>trick, and might even be a good idea to get the car to last>>>until the end of summer.>> That's a good idea. Last place I worked a guy had a Hyundai Excel with an >> oil consumption problem. He failed on visible smoke. The emissions test >> technician was the one that suggested 20W-50 as a workaround. >> Unfortunately, it didn't work in his case and he still failed on visible >> smoke, so he just sold the car.> I was thinking 20W-50 oil and maybe a bottle of one of those>"miracle" stop smoke additives. This car may be beyond that,>but it's only about $15. The Magic Elixir - 4 Quarts of 20W-50 2 (16 Oz.) bottles of Bardahl No Smoke. Either that or Kendall 70 Weight (Engine In a Bottle). Jim To reply via e-mail ---> b377@worldnet.att.net
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