Re: Honda Civic 97 Timing Belt Replacement Dilemma

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Re: Honda Civic 97 Timing Belt Replacement Dilemma
Mjt 23 April 2005 05:23:37
	(savijith@gmail.com) scribbled: I have a 97 Hionda civic currently @112000 mileage. However, i have> not yet replaced the timing belt for it. My dealer mentions a cost of> around $665.00 whereas there's a nearby mechanic shop (i live in> Redmond, WA BTW) who is quoting $185 including parts and labor. I am> in a dilemma as to whom to go with?> Could you please advise whether its worth shelling out that much with> the dealer or worth taking a chance with the mechanic. ... the dealership ALWAYS charges more. please do not equate more $$$ to equal better/higher quality work. i know of MANY horror stories of shoddy dealership work. but at the same time, many dealerships do good work ... and there are many independents that do shoddy work - it's in your best interest to ask around. there's nothing wrong with using an independent. most of the independents realize the dealers are charging high prices and can act on that by offering reasonable rates with the same, if not better, quality service. remember, an independent is betting HIS sole reputation on his work, not someone falling back on the corporation. -- << http://michaeljtobler.homelinux.com (Modern English - Someone's Calling) >> Speak the truth. That is always much easier, and is often the most powerful argument. - Bene Gesserit Axiom
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Larry Webb 23 April 2005 05:54:24 [ permanent link ]
	savijith@gmail.com wrote:> Hey all,> I have a 97 Hionda civic currently @112000 mileage. However, i have> not yet replaced the timing belt for it. My dealer mentions a cost of> around $665.00 whereas there's a nearby mechanic shop (i live in> Redmond, WA BTW) who is quoting $185 including parts and labor. I am> in a dilemma as to whom to go with?> Could you please advise whether its worth shelling out that much with> the dealer or worth taking a chance with the mechanic.> I am not a very car-tech guy, so any friendly tips are very much> appreciated.> Thanks a lot.> Savita.> Savita: Make sure you are comparing apples with apples. The dealer may be including things that should be done at the same time, such as; 1. New Water pump - not rebuilt (if driven by the timing belt, which I believe yours is). 2. Coolant (you have to drain it when replacing the water pump. 3. Other drive belts (they have to be removed anyhow so it makes sense to replace them). 4. Tensioner and seals if applicable. Larry
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Steve B . 23 April 2005 06:28:31 [ permanent link ]
	On 22 Apr 2005 17:29:40 -0700, savijith@gmail.com wrote: Hey all,> I have a 97 Hionda civic currently @112000 mileage. However, i have>not yet replaced the timing belt for it. My dealer mentions a cost of>around $665.00 whereas there's a nearby mechanic shop (i live in>Redmond, WA BTW) who is quoting $185 including parts and labor. I am>in a dilemma as to whom to go with?>Could you please advise whether its worth shelling out that much with>the dealer or worth taking a chance with the mechanic.> I am not a very car-tech guy, so any friendly tips are very much>appreciated.> Thanks a lot.>Savita. Neither. The dealer is generally going to be the most expensive option and the price you are quoting from them sounds about right for their service. An good independent shop is your best bet but the rate this shop has quoted you tells me that they are not planning to replace key components that need to be replace such as the water pump. You can skip these extras but if that water pump goes out tomorrow it will take the new timing belt with it. Ask for recommendations from some friends if you can and ask the shops what they intend to replace as well as what the estimated total will be. Steve B.
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TeGGeR® 23 April 2005 07:56:13 [ permanent link ]
	savijith@gmail.com wrote in news:1114216180.436414.173190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com: Hey all,> I have a 97 Hionda civic currently @112000 mileage. However, i have> not yet replaced the timing belt for it. My dealer mentions a cost of> around $665.00 whereas there's a nearby mechanic shop (i live in> Redmond, WA BTW) who is quoting $185 including parts and labor. I am> in a dilemma as to whom to go with?> Could you please advise whether its worth shelling out that much with> the dealer or worth taking a chance with the mechanic.> I am not a very car-tech guy, so any friendly tips are very much> appreciated.> First thing you need to do is give us a breakdown of the pricing. Labor-wise, the dealer will be around $100/hr, while the independent may be about $60 or more. However, since there is a FOUR-HUNDRED dollar difference, I would be seriously suspicious of that independent guy. You had better check to make sure of: 1) Is he using an aftermarket timing belt or OEM? 2) Is he replacing the water pump? If so, is it aftermarket? 3) What else is he NOT replacing that the dealer would? A price breakdown is crucial here. Without that NOBODY can tell you if you're getting a deal or not. But for $185, that independent sounds definitely fishy. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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Y_p_w 23 April 2005 21:04:23 [ permanent link ]
	savijith@gmail.com wrote: Hey all,> I have a 97 Hionda civic currently @112000 mileage. However, i have> not yet replaced the timing belt for it. My dealer mentions a cost of> around $665.00 whereas there's a nearby mechanic shop (i live in> Redmond, WA BTW) who is quoting $185 including parts and labor. I am> in a dilemma as to whom to go with? The labor to replace the belt only will be at least 4 hours. Typical shop rates will make that about $240-320. The additional labor to replace the water pump and tensioner should be maybe 20-30 minutes. All the disassembly steps to remove the timing belt are the same as for the water pump or tensioner, so it makes sense to have it done. The parts alone should be somewhere in the range of $185. That would include a belt, water pump, tensioner pulley, coolant, thermostat (since the coolant is already drained), valve cover gasket, and perhaps other belts. Could you please advise whether its worth shelling out that much with> the dealer or worth taking a chance with the mechanic. Ask what they do. The labor for a Honda timing belt change is very high. It's a design choice, but once done (properly) your car should provide years of reliable performance. I am not a very car-tech guy, so any friendly tips are very much> appreciated. That sounds like a low-ball bid. I'd be suspicious. My timing belt change on my '95 Integra GS-R was about $500, although my 90K mile service included a valve adjustment and other assorted service.
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Sammmmm 24 April 2005 17:22:40 [ permanent link ]
	the honda shop is gouging you. have the mechanic shop also replace the water pump at the same time. sammmm <savijith@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1114216180.436414.173190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...> Hey all,> I have a 97 Hionda civic currently @112000 mileage. However, i have> not yet replaced the timing belt for it. My dealer mentions a cost of> around $665.00 whereas there's a nearby mechanic shop (i live in> Redmond, WA BTW) who is quoting $185 including parts and labor. I am> in a dilemma as to whom to go with?> Could you please advise whether its worth shelling out that much with> the dealer or worth taking a chance with the mechanic.> I am not a very car-tech guy, so any friendly tips are very much> appreciated.> Thanks a lot.> Savita.>
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Alex Rodriguez 26 April 2005 00:40:57 [ permanent link ]
	In article <1114216180.436414.173190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, savijith@gmail.com says...> Hey all,> I have a 97 Hionda civic currently @112000 mileage. However, i have>not yet replaced the timing belt for it. My dealer mentions a cost of>around $665.00 whereas there's a nearby mechanic shop (i live in>Redmond, WA BTW) who is quoting $185 including parts and labor. I am>in a dilemma as to whom to go with?>Could you please advise whether its worth shelling out that much with>the dealer or worth taking a chance with the mechanic. Does the nearby mechanic specialize in Hondas? You can also ask him how many of these he has done. Speaking to other customers is also a good idea. Also, when you compare the prices, are they for the exact same thing? It could be the dealer is quoting you the price of the belt change plus a water pump and the local mechanic is just quoting the price of changing the timing belt. -------------- Alex
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