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CarGuru > Technology > OBD11 23 April 2005 11:22:50

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OBD11

Jdl 1 April 2005 08:51:55
 I was looking at some code-set parameters for GM OBD11. One column was
labeled, primary malfunction parameter, another column was, secondary
monitoring parameters and conditions. It is my understanding that the
conditions listed in both columns have to be present before a code will
set. Is that correct? thanks

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Kiwi John 15 April 2005 18:07:04 permanent link ]
 I have a 1996 Toyota corolla seca
does anyone know where the obd 11 port is and its not below the steering
column
its an Aussie one

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so many Christians so few LIONS


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Jeff Strickland 15 April 2005 20:22:28 permanent link ]
 1996 is the change over year, and in some markets the OBD II might not be
applied.

On LHD cars sent to the USA, the port is on the bottom edge of the dash
board in the area of the left foot. This would put it between the left side
of the car and the steering column. I am not sure if RHD cars get the port
in the same location, or in the mirror of this location. If you actually
have the port, it will look similar the connector on the back of a printer,
except the one in your car won't have as many pins. The printer connector
(on the printer, not the one on the computer) will have 40 pins, the data
port on your car will have - I think - 15 pins. Except for the number of
pins, the connectors look nearly identical.




"Kiwi John" <therileys@ihug.com­.au> wrote in message
news:d3ohne$fu9$1@l­ust.ihug.co.nz...> I have a 1996 Toyota corolla seca> does anyone know where the obd 11 port is and its not below the steering> column> its an Aussie one>
-- > so many Christians so few LIONS>


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Bruce L . Bergman 15 April 2005 20:59:08 permanent link ]
 On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 00:07:04 +1000, "Kiwi John"
<therileys@ihug.com­.au> wrote:
I have a 1996 Toyota corolla seca>does anyone know where the obd 11 port is and its not below the steering >column>its an Aussie one

It's a North American requirement - but Toyota builds many different
versions of their cars for different regions. If you are in
Australia, and the car is carbureted with conventional electronic
ignition (hopefully they've dumped the points everywhere), you do not
have an Electronic Fuel Injection system - no computer, so no
diagnostic port. ;-)­

When they decide the air is getting too crunchy under there, they'll
start requiring emissions controls and you'll get to deal with OBD-II.
Be glad we got to do the debugging for you.

--<< Bruce >>--
--
Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop
Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700
5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545
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Kiwi John 16 April 2005 13:28:04 permanent link ]
 cant find a D plug there they do have the diagnostic port under the bonnet
but its not obd 11

"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.­net> wrote in message
news:YNmdnRpxld8Ad8­LfRVn-2w@ez2.net...>­ 1996 is the change over year, and in some markets the OBD II might not be> applied.>
On LHD cars sent to the USA, the port is on the bottom edge of the dash> board in the area of the left foot. This would put it between the left > side> of the car and the steering column. I am not sure if RHD cars get the port> in the same location, or in the mirror of this location. If you actually> have the port, it will look similar the connector on the back of a > printer,> except the one in your car won't have as many pins. The printer connector> (on the printer, not the one on the computer) will have 40 pins, the data> port on your car will have - I think - 15 pins. Except for the number of> pins, the connectors look nearly identical.>
"Kiwi John" <therileys@ihug.com­.au> wrote in message> news:d3ohne$fu9$1@l­ust.ihug.co.nz...>> I have a 1996 Toyota corolla seca>> does anyone know where the obd 11 port is and its not below the steering>> column>> its an Aussie one>>
-- >> so many Christians so few LIONS>>


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Jeff Strickland 20 April 2005 03:16:28 permanent link ]
 IF your car is truely OBD II (not OBD 11), then it must have the connector
along the underside of the dash board. In the USA, the connector is near the
left leg of the driver, on a RHD car, then logic says it could be near the
right leg of the driver. Having never driven a RHD car, am I correct in
assuming the pedal arrangement is the same, left foot for the clutch, and
right foot for the gas and brake, or are the pedals a mirror of the
arrangement we get?

In any case, the OBD II specification says that there must be a data port
inside the car, and it must be along the bottom edge of the dash board. I
seem to recall that the location of the data port might be different for LHD
and RHD cars, but the spec is clear that the port has to be there. If you
can't find the port, then you haven't got an OBD II compliant car. Since
1996 was the cut-in year, it is easy to see where the cut-in will happen at
different times in different parts of the world.





"Kiwi John" <therileys@ihug.com­.au> wrote in message
news:d3qtqj$3ha$1@l­ust.ihug.co.nz...> cant find a D plug there they do have the diagnostic port under the
bonnet> but its not obd 11>
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.­net> wrote in message> news:YNmdnRpxld8Ad8­LfRVn-2w@ez2.net...>­ > 1996 is the change over year, and in some markets the OBD II might not
applied.> >
On LHD cars sent to the USA, the port is on the bottom edge of the dash> > board in the area of the left foot. This would put it between the left> > side> > of the car and the steering column. I am not sure if RHD cars get the
port> > in the same location, or in the mirror of this location. If you actually> > have the port, it will look similar the connector on the back of a> > printer,> > except the one in your car won't have as many pins. The printer
connector> > (on the printer, not the one on the computer) will have 40 pins, the
data> > port on your car will have - I think - 15 pins. Except for the number of> > pins, the connectors look nearly identical.> >
"Kiwi John" <therileys@ihug.com­.au> wrote in message> > news:d3ohne$fu9$1@l­ust.ihug.co.nz...> >> I have a 1996 Toyota corolla seca> >> does anyone know where the obd 11 port is and its not below the
steering> >> column> >> its an Aussie one> >>
-- > >> so many Christians so few LIONS> >>


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Guest 21 April 2005 15:19:12 permanent link ]
 any vehicle sold in the united states after 1996 MUST be obd II certified to
be marketable...ASE certified transmission tech...dont buy a new computer
for your car repair yours ask me for info djmcreynolds1@bells­outh.net
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.­net> wrote in message
news:BPednSwlnIV6DP­jfRVn-uQ@ez2.net...>­ IF your car is truely OBD II (not OBD 11), then it must have the connector> along the underside of the dash board. In the USA, the connector is near
left leg of the driver, on a RHD car, then logic says it could be near the> right leg of the driver. Having never driven a RHD car, am I correct in> assuming the pedal arrangement is the same, left foot for the clutch, and> right foot for the gas and brake, or are the pedals a mirror of the> arrangement we get?>
In any case, the OBD II specification says that there must be a data port> inside the car, and it must be along the bottom edge of the dash board. I> seem to recall that the location of the data port might be different for
and RHD cars, but the spec is clear that the port has to be there. If you> can't find the port, then you haven't got an OBD II compliant car. Since> 1996 was the cut-in year, it is easy to see where the cut-in will happen
different times in different parts of the world.>
"Kiwi John" <therileys@ihug.com­.au> wrote in message> news:d3qtqj$3ha$1@l­ust.ihug.co.nz...> > cant find a D plug there they do have the diagnostic port under the> bonnet> > but its not obd 11> >
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.­net> wrote in message> > news:YNmdnRpxld8Ad8­LfRVn-2w@ez2.net...>­ > > 1996 is the change over year, and in some markets the OBD II might not> be> > > applied.> > >
On LHD cars sent to the USA, the port is on the bottom edge of the
dash> > > board in the area of the left foot. This would put it between the left> > > side> > > of the car and the steering column. I am not sure if RHD cars get the> port> > > in the same location, or in the mirror of this location. If you
actually> > > have the port, it will look similar the connector on the back of a> > > printer,> > > except the one in your car won't have as many pins. The printer> connector> > > (on the printer, not the one on the computer) will have 40 pins, the> data> > > port on your car will have - I think - 15 pins. Except for the number
pins, the connectors look nearly identical.> > >
"Kiwi John" <therileys@ihug.com­.au> wrote in message> > > news:d3ohne$fu9$1@l­ust.ihug.co.nz...> > >> I have a 1996 Toyota corolla seca> > >> does anyone know where the obd 11 port is and its not below the> steering> > >> column> > >> its an Aussie one> > >>
--> > >> so many Christians so few LIONS> > >>


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Bruce L . Bergman 21 April 2005 18:59:02 permanent link ]
 On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:19:12 -0400, <djmcreynolds1@inva­lid> wrote:
any vehicle sold in the united states after 1996 MUST be obd II certified to>be marketable...ASE certified transmission tech...dont buy a new computer>for your car repair yours ask me for info djmcreynolds1@inval­id

Go away, advertising troll.

The Original Poster is in Australia, and the rules are quite
different under there - he's never come back to say whether he has EFI
or a carburetor, if the car has a carby he likely doesn't have a
computer at all.

--<< Bruce >>--
--
Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop
Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700
5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545
Spamtrapped address: Remove the python and the invalid, and use a net.
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Jeff Strickland 21 April 2005 20:50:13 permanent link ]
 
<djmcreynolds1@bell­south.net> wrote in message
news:lWL9e.111107$w­o1.106739@bignews6.b­ellsouth.net...> any vehicle sold in the united states after 1996 MUST be obd II certified
be marketable...ASE certified transmission tech...dont buy a new computer> for your car repair yours ask me for info djmcreynolds1@bells­outh.net


This is true, but the OP is in Australia. We, I, don't know the specs down
there. The OP reports that the data port is not under the dash, but the data
port is one of the main specs of the OBD II specification. I surmise that
since his car is the cut-in year for the USA, then perhaps it is not an OBD
II car for another part of the world.



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Kiwi John 23 April 2005 11:22:50 permanent link ]
 i have EFI
and i have the diagnostic port by the strut under the bonnet
does any one know the hook up to a serial cable so i can use software


"Bruce L. Bergman" <blPYTHONbergman@ea­rthlink.invalid> wrote in message
news:7mff615srgjgv3­22si6s88fpdc3bd35rfv­@4ax.com...> On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:19:12 -0400, <djmcreynolds1@inva­lid> wrote:>
any vehicle sold in the united states after 1996 MUST be obd II certified >>to>>be marketable...ASE certified transmission tech...dont buy a new computer>>for your car repair yours ask me for info djmcreynolds1@inval­id>
Go away, advertising troll.>
The Original Poster is in Australia, and the rules are quite> different under there - he's never come back to say whether he has EFI> or a carburetor, if the car has a carby he likely doesn't have a> computer at all.>
--<< Bruce >>--> -- > Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop> Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700> 5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545> Spamtrapped address: Remove the python and the invalid, and use a net.


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