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Changing Coolant Sunfire 2.4L

Mike 3 March 2005 17:10:48
 I have always done coolant changes on my cars but with my 2000 Pontiac
Sunfire with 2.4L engine I decided to have a GM dealer do it. I
suggested they flush it as well. It took about an hour. When I got home
I decided to look at how they did it. I could only find evidence that
they removed the pressur cap on the pressurized coolant bottle and the
rad drain had been opened. The block drain plug hadn't been touched and
I couldn't see evidence of any hoses being removed. Could somebody
tell me what technique a typical large GM dealership would have used on
my car to do this job?
Thanks,
Mike

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Billy Bad Assr© 3 March 2005 18:59:29 permanent link ]
 "mike" <macosham@excite.co­m> wrote in message
news:1109855448.280­026.51940@f14g2000cw­b.googlegroups.com..­.> I have always done coolant changes on my cars but with my 2000 Pontiac> Sunfire with 2.4L engine I decided to have a GM dealer do it. I> suggested they flush it as well. It took about an hour. When I got home> I decided to look at how they did it. I could only find evidence that> they removed the pressur cap on the pressurized coolant bottle and the> rad drain had been opened. The block drain plug hadn't been touched and> I couldn't see evidence of any hoses being removed. Could somebody> tell me what technique a typical large GM dealership would have used on> my car to do this job?

La-Machine!!! >>Grin<<

If your experienced and you know what your doing >> do it yourself, it's your
car!

BBA


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Guest 3 March 2005 19:38:26 permanent link ]
 
Bruce Chang wrote:> "mike" <macosham@excite.co­m> wrote in message> news:1109855448.280­026.51940@f14g2000cw­b.googlegroups.com..­.> >I have always done coolant changes on my cars but with my 2000
Pontiac> > Sunfire with 2.4L engine I decided to have a GM dealer do it. I> > suggested they flush it as well. It took about an hour. When I got
home> > I decided to look at how they did it. I could only find evidence
that> > they removed the pressur cap on the pressurized coolant bottle and
rad drain had been opened. The block drain plug hadn't been touched
I couldn't see evidence of any hoses being removed. Could somebody> > tell me what technique a typical large GM dealership would have
used on> > my car to do this job?> > Thanks,> > Mike> >
Why did you change your mind and let the dealership do the coolant
change?> What made it different this time? Is there something radically
different> about the 2.4L that makes it difficult or needs special knowledge?
sounds like you know what you're doing, next time you should go ahead
just do it yourself. It takes the guesswork out of whether someone
did the> job right or not. (for the most part.. haha). If the hoses haven't
been> touched, I can only guess that htey drained the rad, filled it with
water,> warmed up the car until the thermostat opened, drained it again,
possibily> repeated and then filled with 50/50. Or it's possible that this
dealership> actually pays attention to detail and put everything back the way
they found> it. =o)>
-Bruce

Most dealers use a machine they hook up to the radiator
and engine and pump out the old coolant (engine running)
and pump in new coolant. Some add a flush cycle before
adding the new coolant. This process usually does not do
anything to the overflow tank.
Ernie

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Billy Bad Assr© 3 March 2005 19:55:24 permanent link ]
 

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"Bruce Chang" <bechang@swspambego­nebell.net> wrote in message
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"mike" <macosham@excite.co­m> wrote in message> news:1109855448.280­026.51940@f14g2000cw­b.googlegroups.com..­.> >I have always done coolant changes on my cars but with my 2000 Pontiac> > Sunfire with 2.4L engine I decided to have a GM dealer do it. I> > suggested they flush it as well. It took about an hour. When I got home> > I decided to look at how they did it. I could only find evidence that> > they removed the pressur cap on the pressurized coolant bottle and the> > rad drain had been opened. The block drain plug hadn't been touched and> > I couldn't see evidence of any hoses being removed. Could somebody> > tell me what technique a typical large GM dealership would have used on> > my car to do this job?> > Thanks,> > Mike> >
Why did you change your mind and let the dealership do the coolant change?> What made it different this time? Is there something radically different> about the 2.4L that makes it difficult or needs special knowledge? It> sounds like you know what you're doing, next time you should go ahead and> just do it yourself. It takes the guesswork out of whether someone did the> job right or not. (for the most part.. haha). If the hoses haven't been> touched, I can only guess that htey drained the rad, filled it with water,> warmed up the car until the thermostat opened, drained it again, possibily> repeated and then filled with 50/50. Or it's possible that this dealership

Not even that --La-Machine = just plug in the coolant recycler -- flip the
switch to on -- run the engine a bit and boom-viola-done!

BBA


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Bruce Chang 3 March 2005 21:08:15 permanent link ]
 
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"mike" <macosham@excite.co­m> wrote in message>> news:1109855448.280­026.51940@f14g2000cw­b.googlegroups.com..­.>> >I have always done coolant changes on my cars but with my 2000 Pontiac>> > Sunfire with 2.4L engine I decided to have a GM dealer do it. I>> > suggested they flush it as well. It took about an hour. When I got home>> > I decided to look at how they did it. I could only find evidence that>> > they removed the pressur cap on the pressurized coolant bottle and the>> > rad drain had been opened. The block drain plug hadn't been touched and>> > I couldn't see evidence of any hoses being removed. Could somebody>> > tell me what technique a typical large GM dealership would have used on>> > my car to do this job?>> > Thanks,>> > Mike>> >
Why did you change your mind and let the dealership do the coolant >> change?>> What made it different this time? Is there something radically different>> about the 2.4L that makes it difficult or needs special knowledge? It>> sounds like you know what you're doing, next time you should go ahead and>> just do it yourself. It takes the guesswork out of whether someone did >> the>> job right or not. (for the most part.. haha). If the hoses haven't >> been>> touched, I can only guess that htey drained the rad, filled it with >> water,>> warmed up the car until the thermostat opened, drained it again, >> possibily>> repeated and then filled with 50/50. Or it's possible that this >> dealership>
Not even that --La-Machine = just plug in the coolant recycler -- flip the> switch to on -- run the engine a bit and boom-viola-done!>

How does "La-Machine" hook up? You have to attach it to a coolant hose and
the OP said it looks like none of the hoses had been removed. If that's the
case, then "La-Machine" wasn't used.


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Mike 4 March 2005 03:48:20 permanent link ]
 Hi Ernie,
Would you have any idea how this machine attaches? I would be very
interested in knowing.

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Mike 4 March 2005 04:44:07 permanent link ]
 Hi Ian,
What your describing is somewhat reassuring! I'll check the upper rad
hose again.
In my case they also did a rad flush first. Is that possible using this
machine?
Mike

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Kruse 4 March 2005 04:46:17 permanent link ]
 
mike wrote:> Hi Ernie,> Would you have any idea how this machine attaches? I would be very> interested in knowing.

You unhook the top radiator hose (usually) and hook it to the machine.
You hook a hose from the machine to the radiator where your
disconnected hose used to be. You fill the machine with the 50/50
antifreeze-water solution. You hook the jumper cables from the machine
to the car's battery. You start the car and push the "process" button.
When the car's thermostat opens up, the old coolant is pushed into the
machine by the car's water pump. At the same time, the pump from the
coolant flush machine pushes in new coolant. When the process is
complete, the machine beeps and you shut down the car and the flush
machine. Then you hook your top radiator hose back up.
The problem with this machine is not the process itself, it is actually
okay. (For the most part) The problem is that the radiator cap, errr
coolant recovery cap is not on the radiator, but on the coolant
recovery tank. (Most new cars do not have a radiator cap, just a
coolant recovery tank cap) So when you look under the cap, the old
coolant is still in the coolant recovery tank because the dealership is
in too much of a hurry to flush the coolant recovery tank. It's as
simple as that.

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