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CarGuru > Technology > Replacing automotive belts - brands ? 3 March 2005 03:44:25

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Replacing automotive belts - brands ?

Guest 3 March 2005 03:44:25
 I am about to replace the engine accessory belts of my family vehicles
. All have 4 year old belts showing signs of aging . I have noticed
that the Kelly Springfield belts ( division of Goodyear ) are less
price than the of other brands Dayco, Gatorback . Are they a good
value ?
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C. Massey 19 February 2005 19:19:59 permanent link ]
 
<nospam4me@nospam.c­om> wrote in message
news:4217376e.82278­932@news.west.earthl­ink.net...> I am about to replace the engine accessory belts of my family vehicles> . All have 4 year old belts showing signs of aging . I have noticed> that the Kelly Springfield belts ( division of Goodyear ) are less> price than the of other brands Dayco, Gatorback . Are they a good> value ?


At work we use Goodyear (not KS) belts on our machinery (newspaper insert
machines, etc.) For our applications, the Goodyear holds up longer than the
others. Automotive may be a different story though.


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el Diablo 19 February 2005 21:51:04 permanent link ]
 
<nospam4me@nospam.c­om> wrote in message
news:4217376e.82278­932@news.west.earthl­ink.net...>I am about to replace the engine accessory belts of my family vehicles> . All have 4 year old belts showing signs of aging . I have noticed> that the Kelly Springfield belts ( division of Goodyear ) are less> price than the of other brands Dayco, Gatorback . Are they a good> value ?

Dayco makes a lot of OEM belts, I know that they make belts and hoses for
GM. I always prefer Dayco or Gates products.

Brian


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PaPaPeng 19 February 2005 23:02:12 permanent link ]
 On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 13:19:13 GMT, nospam4me@nospam.co­m wrote:
I am about to replace the engine accessory belts of my family vehicles>. All have 4 year old belts showing signs of aging . I have noticed>that the Kelly Springfield belts ( division of Goodyear ) are less>price than the of other brands Dayco, Gatorback . Are they a good>value ?


4 years and they are worn? Doesn't sound right. But anyway how about
going to a "pick a part" car parts business or a used car parts place
to get the exact model replacement seat belt.
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Billy Bad Assr© 20 February 2005 01:17:59 permanent link ]
 <nospam4me@nospam.co­m> wrote in message
news:4217376e.82278­932@news.west.earthl­ink.net...> I am about to replace the engine accessory belts of my family vehicles> . All have 4 year old belts showing signs of aging . I have noticed> that the Kelly Springfield belts ( division of Goodyear ) are less> price than the of other brands Dayco, Gatorback . Are they a good> value ?

??

here's what we use >> http://www.gates.co­m

BBA


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Larry Moe 'N Curly 20 February 2005 04:32:34 permanent link ]
 
C. Massey wrote:
At work we use Goodyear (not KS) belts on our machinery> (newspaper insert machines, etc.) For our applications,> the Goodyear holds up longer than the others. Automotive> may be a different story though.

Are there any differences in quality between the Goodyear and
Kelly-Springfield brands of belts? All I know is that the Goodyear
brand is warranted for life and costs 2-3 times as much.

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The Real Bev 20 February 2005 06:53:23 permanent link ]
 larry moe 'n curly wrote:>
C. Massey wrote:>
At work we use Goodyear (not KS) belts on our machinery> > (newspaper insert machines, etc.) For our applications,> > the Goodyear holds up longer than the others. Automotive> > may be a different story though.>
Are there any differences in quality between the Goodyear and> Kelly-Springfield brands of belts? All I know is that the Goodyear> brand is warranted for life and costs 2-3 times as much.

If you don't replace them yourself, the cost of the belts themselves is
unimportant. Likewise if you value your own time and skinned knuckles.
I like things with lifetime guarantees. So far we've got (I think) 4
lifetime batteries and a starter (or alternator) for our van, one set of
brake pads for the dead Sentra, and a set of guts for my Zippo lighter.

--
Cheers,
Bev
*******************­********************­********************­
"Everyone ought to stop and smell crayons once in a while."
-- DA
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Edmechanic 20 February 2005 09:09:52 permanent link ]
 My boss at work always recommends Gates, and we use them for timing
belts too. Sometimes we use dayco but gates look stronger to me.

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Ron 28 February 2005 02:24:23 permanent link ]
 I used to work for a major auto parts chain that deals in KS, Goodyear
gatorback, and I think one other brand. memory not working today.

Anyway, I use the Gatorback. They tend to be quieter and I *think* last
longer. The KS is just a little less quality than the regular goodyear.
But I think they should be just fine unless you have a problem with them
squealing.

Ron
<nospam4me@nospam.c­om> wrote in message
news:4217376e.82278­932@news.west.earthl­ink.net...>I am about to replace the engine accessory belts of my family vehicles> . All have 4 year old belts showing signs of aging . I have noticed> that the Kelly Springfield belts ( division of Goodyear ) are less> price than the of other brands Dayco, Gatorback . Are they a good> value ?


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Patrick Mitchel 28 February 2005 16:17:43 permanent link ]
 I bought some belts for the 85 toyota truck that still soldiering along at
the local pep boys and in less than a year they were crazed to the backing.
I was doing some unrelated work in close proximity to the belts and took a
casual glance at the things - yikes! Took them off and installed the old
ones (5 yr old) belts as a temp replacement. Took a look at the belts, they
was no discernable name on either belt. Whoever their supplier is must be
making a mint on the poor quality belts. I can say that the belts weren't
overtight- if anything they might have been on the loose side (they never
squaled on revving the motor). Pat


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Daniel J. Stern 28 February 2005 21:43:11 permanent link ]
 On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, patrick mitchel wrote:
I bought some belts for the 85 toyota truck at the local pep boys and in> less than a year they were crazed to the backing.

Lesson: Pep Boys is fine for cheap oil and windshield washer fluid and
those cartoon-character air fresheners you hang from your rearview mirror,
but not for actual parts.
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Steve 28 February 2005 23:18:37 permanent link ]
 
Never had any problems with Gates or Dayco.
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Daniel J. Stern 1 March 2005 02:14:31 permanent link ]
 On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, The Real Bev wrote:
Lesson: Pep Boys is fine for cheap oil and windshield washer fluid and> > those cartoon-character air fresheners you hang from your rearview mirror,> > but not for actual parts.>
Au contraire. Whenever possible I bought their lifetime parts.
<etc>

*yawn* Pep Boys is good at making you feel special by replacing their
cruddy parts again and again for you.

I prefer to buy good parts in the first place and not have to worry about
it.
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Daniel J. Stern 1 March 2005 03:44:39 permanent link ]
 On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, The Real Bev wrote:
*yawn* Pep Boys is good at making you feel special by replacing their> > cruddy parts again and again for you. I prefer to buy good parts in> > the first place and not have to worry about it.
I doubt if they're any cruddier than anybody else's.

Ignorance is bliss, isn't it, Bev?
Why do people assume that something is better just because it costs> more?

Good question. It costs no more, in general and overall, to buy good
parts.
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The Real Bev 1 March 2005 07:09:04 permanent link ]
 "Daniel J. Stern" wrote:>
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, The Real Bev wrote:>
*yawn* Pep Boys is good at making you feel special by replacing their> > > cruddy parts again and again for you. I prefer to buy good parts in> > > the first place and not have to worry about it.>
I doubt if they're any cruddier than anybody else's.>
Ignorance is bliss, isn't it, Bev?

The eternal sunshine of the spotless mind. Yeah, ignorance is pretty
cool, I wish I had some. We've used PB parts for over 40 years god help
us and except for the brake shoes, which I expected to be used up, we
haven't had to do a second repair. Once it's fixed, it's fixed.
Why do people assume that something is better just because it costs> > more?>
Good question. It costs no more, in general and overall, to buy good> parts.

'Value' and 'price' are not necessarily equivalent.

--
Cheers, Bev
*******************­********************­*******
"I've had a Lucas pacemaker for years and have
never experienced any prob
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SoCalMike 1 March 2005 07:14:12 permanent link ]
 The Real Bev wrote:> The State of California smog regs suck. You'd think that somebody who> drives a Hummer would have more sympathy.

the $100k H1 hummers, like arnies use diesel engines that arent required
to ever be smogged. isnt life sweet? they can just pollute away!
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Tim Zimmerman 2 March 2005 17:03:37 permanent link ]
 "The Real Bev" <bashley@myrealbox.­com> wrote in message news:42239F1B.72BFD­C9C@myrealbox.com...­
Why do people assume that something is better just because it costs> more?

Ignorance. Normally, you should run the parts for chemical authenticity or
look for the genuine seal.








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Larry Moe 'N Curly 3 March 2005 03:44:25 permanent link ]
 
Steve wrote:
But the very best long-term solution to a rebuilt part> like an alternator or starter is to take it to a local> reubuilder and let them overhaul your original- that way> it won't get subjected to the usual chain-store rebuild> factory process(*).
(*) The process: tear 'em all apart, throw the re-usable> parts in bins whether it came from a 1972 starter or a 1982> starter, sandblast the housings so that nothing quite fits> square anymore, press in the cheapest bearings you can find,> intsall cheap brushes and springs, pull random re-usable> parts out of the bins, even though they may be subtly> different (often results in mis-matched rotors and stators> in alternators giving dim lights at idle, for example) and> then reassemble a Franken-part.

Is that why the last time I was at Autozone, two customers were
returning their lifetime-warranted alternators after just 3-6 weeks of
use? :(­

I quit buying rebuilt parts from the discounters after I got a master
cylinder with a 1/4" notch on top of the fluid reservior, preventing
the lid from sealing it, and a friend of mine got a rebuilt water pump
with an impeller that stuck out so far that the pump couldn't be
installed against the engine. He ended up having a local shop press a
new bearing into his original pump.

Someone who claimed to work at a Motorcraft rebuild factory said that
they sandblasted A/C compressor housings, even on the mating surfaces.

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