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whats the fastest you got your saturn up too ?

Laz 7 April 2005 04:08:11
 hey, just wondering what's the fastest you got your Saturn up too ?

we own an 2002 sl2 4 dr and I think 155 kph was the max (en route to
Montréal); hot summer day, when the car was still very new ( less than
4000kms)


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Kevin M. Keller 7 April 2005 06:13:33 permanent link ]
 "Laz" <raamman@snotmail.c­om> typed until their fingers bled, and came up
with:
hey, just wondering what's the fastest you got your Saturn up too ?>
Down the front straight at Gateway International Raceway, top of 4th gear,
right at 110 MPH ( too busy making sure I didn't miss the turn in for turn
1 to check exactly)

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Marx404 7 April 2005 07:18:54 permanent link ]
 110+ in my 94 SL2 on an empty stretch of I95 (dont try this at home kids,
professional idiot driver). have radar will travel ;-)­

marx404


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Nobody U. Know 7 April 2005 07:36:55 permanent link ]
 85 MPH in my 91 SL2. About 145 in my 95 Mitsu GST. 160 in my 91 3K/VR4. I
felt safer at 160 in the 3K than at 85 in the Saturn.

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"Laz" <raamman@snotmail.c­om> wrote in message
news:7vadnZdoz57958­nfRVn-3g@rogers.com.­..> hey, just wondering what's the fastest you got your Saturn up too ?>
we own an 2002 sl2 4 dr and I think 155 kph was the max (en route to> Montréal); hot summer day, when the car was still very new ( less than> 4000kms)>


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Bob Shuman 7 April 2005 15:53:33 permanent link ]
 Todd,

The 3000GT just has a nice feel. My '91 isn't a VR4 (twin turbo) and I've
never had it up anywhere near that speed, but it is a heavy vehicle for it's
size, has a wide wheel base, and low aerodynamic drag so just plain feels
stable .

Bob

"Nobody U. Know" <nobody@nospam.com>­ wrote in message
news:rV15e.74$UW4.3­6@fe1.columbus.rr.co­m...> 85 MPH in my 91 SL2. About 145 in my 95 Mitsu GST. 160 in my 91 3K/VR4. I> felt safer at 160 in the 3K than at 85 in the Saturn.>
-- > Todd Honea


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Nobody U. Know 7 April 2005 17:27:43 permanent link ]
 It is a TT and at speed the turbos are really out of steam. I believe the
actual speed was more like 155. I did it once and it felt pretty good. The
first time I like my GF drive it, she had it up to 100 in third before I
reminded her we were on a public road and she should be in a higher gear.
The GST felt like it was floating at anything over 130 and I had to remove
the govenor just to do it.

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Todd Honea
"Bob Shuman" <reshuman@removethi­s.lucent.com> wrote in message
news:d33703$gsu@net­news.proxy.lucent.co­m...> Todd,>
The 3000GT just has a nice feel. My '91 isn't a VR4 (twin turbo) and I've> never had it up anywhere near that speed, but it is a heavy vehicle for
it's> size, has a wide wheel base, and low aerodynamic drag so just plain feels> stable .>
"Nobody U. Know" <nobody@nospam.com>­ wrote in message> news:rV15e.74$UW4.3­6@fe1.columbus.rr.co­m...> > 85 MPH in my 91 SL2. About 145 in my 95 Mitsu GST. 160 in my 91 3K/VR4.
felt safer at 160 in the 3K than at 85 in the Saturn.> >
-- > > Todd Honea>


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Just Another 7 April 2005 20:49:50 permanent link ]
 In article <7vadnZdoz57958nfRV­n-3g@rogers.com>, "Laz" <raamman@snotmail.c­om> wrote:
hey, just wondering what's the fastest you got your Saturn up too ?

55 mph. Honest, officer!
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Skip 8 April 2005 02:35:54 permanent link ]
 I believe I've got up to as fast as 80, maybe 85(MPH that is :)­ in my
2000 SL2. Of course I do have the factory rear spoiler so it was cool...

Laz wrote:> hey, just wondering what's the fastest you got your Saturn up too ?>
we own an 2002 sl2 4 dr and I think 155 kph was the max (en route to> Montréal); hot summer day, when the car was still very new ( less than> 4000kms)>

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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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Nobody U. Know 8 April 2005 08:00:56 permanent link ]
 I remember being at a race track in TX. This little kid in a Honda had a big
wing on his car and the guy I was with bet him he could shave a tenth off
his time. The kid was only too happy to listen. It involved removing the
giant aluminum wing and saved him 0.2 seconds. Of course he put the thing
back on, but I did run his buddy in my GSX (2nd Mitsu after GST was hit by
an old man).

http://home.woh.rr.­com/roberthonea/dsm_­vs_rice.avi

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Todd Honea
"Skip" <keith_s@nospam.ear­thlink.net> wrote in message
news:eBi5e.1932$go4­.113@newsread2.news.­atl.earthlink.net...­> I believe I've got up to as fast as 80, maybe 85(MPH that is :)­ in my> 2000 SL2. Of course I do have the factory rear spoiler so it was cool...>
Laz wrote:> > hey, just wondering what's the fastest you got your Saturn up too ?> >
we own an 2002 sl2 4 dr and I think 155 kph was the max (en route to> > Montréal); hot summer day, when the car was still very new ( less than> > 4000kms)> >
-- > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.> Benjamin Franklin


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Michael Halliwell 8 April 2005 10:25:02 permanent link ]
 Laz wrote:> hey, just wondering what's the fastest you got your Saturn up too ?>
we own an 2002 sl2 4 dr and I think 155 kph was the max (en route to> Montréal); hot summer day, when the car was still very new ( less than> 4000kms)>

Well, my '03 Ion has seen 145 kph, but with the bit of a cross wind, I
wasn't going to push it...the car is too light for stepping it out with
a side wind.

However, I had a '99 Saab 9-3 that I greatly enjoyed showing a '03
Celica GTS how quick a turbo 5 door could be vs a little sporty coupe
when I handed him his doors from a standing start. We went pretty hard
until he found where his governor was (180 kph) and that mine was a lot
higher (at least 215 kph).

Cheers,

Michael
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Philip Nasadowski 10 April 2005 10:05:35 permanent link ]
 In article <Xns9633EC73B8B1Eas­kmecom@213.155.197.1­38>,
"Kevin M. Keller" <ask@me.com> wrote:
Proprer suspension mods can improve handling, but your typical cut > springs on stock dampers that "ricers" often do does make a car handle > worse.

Proper mods might. But, let's face it, it's beyond the ability of the
average Joe to outengineer Honda, etc on it. Sure a stock suspension is
a compromise, but IIRC, those little Civics already outhandle most
drivers anyway. Most cars today pretty much do.
Putting a big muffler on a stock exhaust does nothing, but a > proper cat-back system does add HP, as does an intake.

Not that much though.
The SPC has dyno > tested several intakes, and found a 4-8 HP gain on a Saturn motor.

4 - 8 HP at the wheels on a Saturn motor is just barely enough to make
it out of the uncertainty of the average dyno. Chassis dynos aren't
spectacularly accurate, assuming they're even calibrated right. Now, a
calibrated engine dyno - that's different. But 4 - 8 HP at the flywheel
is barely worth the effort - it hardly is at the wheels either.

I wouldn't be surprised if normal variation from temperature, air
pressure, etc is that much...
The manufacturer designed the suspension for one set of parameters. On > economy cars, that is usually comfort when getting groceries. Aftermarket > companies design suspensions for a very different set of parameters. I > have chosen to sacrifice some comfort to make the car corner better.

But, the fact remains, on a skidpad, even a cheap economy car like a Kia
pulls quite well. IIRC, they can outhandle some sports cars of 20-30
years ago...

In any case, the chances of the average ricer boy being able to make a
car handle better than a group of engineers at Detroit/Tokyo/Stuga­rtt,
is pretty slim. At least on a newer car.
Several SPC members have indeed done this. the gains are not as much > from the air being cooler, but from the opening up of the intake and > allowing more air into the engine. Again, 4-8 HP gain on a Saturn.

4-8 hp is barely worth the hassle at the smogger station or even the
money on such a system. In any case, if a system's being advertised as
'cold air' induction, is it REALLY bringing in cooler air than a stock
system? That's my big question, and I'm guessing the answer is 'no'.
So, what you're seeing is airflow improvements...

This reminds me of a test in some mag of headers for some Honda
(toyota?) motor. The best aftermarket one was 2HP better than the
stock. I'm guessing that those little buzzbomb motors are so optimized
from the factory that there's really not much room for improvement
without making MAJOR changes...
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Kevin M. Keller 10 April 2005 17:37:40 permanent link ]
 Philip Nasadowski <nasadowsk@nospam.u­sermail.com> typed until their
fingers bled, and came up with:
Proper mods might. But, let's face it, it's beyond the ability of the> average Joe to outengineer Honda, etc on it.

That's why I let the very smart people at Eibach and KYB do it for me.
4 - 8 HP at the wheels on a Saturn motor is just barely enough to make> it out of the uncertainty of the average dyno.

We have used TMW Chassis Dyno in Joliet, IL for over 5 years. Their dyno
is properly calibrated, and we have done back to back tests - stock
intake, then aftermarket. The results have been repeatable across cars.

I have an intake, factory header, and a Thermal R&D cat-back. Stock,
DOHC Saturns tend to dyno around 104-108. Mine has dynoed at 119.
Beleive me, that's a noticable difference.




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Napalm Heart 11 April 2005 16:18:16 permanent link ]
 
"Laz" <raamman@snotmail.c­om> wrote in message
news:7vadnZdoz57958­nfRVn-3g@rogers.com.­..> hey, just wondering what's the fastest you got your Saturn up too ?>
we own an 2002 sl2 4 dr and I think 155 kph was the max (en route to> Montréal); hot summer day, when the car was still very new ( less
than> 4000kms)>

As fast as the speed limiter in a '96 SL2 would allow.


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Jonnie Santos 11 April 2005 17:18:42 permanent link ]
 
"Napalm Heart" <*nospam*@iserv.net­> wrote in message
news:115kqmmqm4ncr4­c@corp.supernews.com­...>
"Laz" <raamman@snotmail.c­om> wrote in message> news:7vadnZdoz57958­nfRVn-3g@rogers.com.­..>> hey, just wondering what's the fastest you got your Saturn up too ?>>
we own an 2002 sl2 4 dr and I think 155 kph was the max (en route to>> Montréal); hot summer day, when the car was still very new ( less> than>> 4000kms)>>
As fast as the speed limiter in a '96 SL2 would allow.>

Lead foot! (grin)


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Hoosier_drifter 12 April 2005 07:14:11 permanent link ]
 Those mods are significant, especially when combined with other
modifications. Port work, new cams, valve work, increased compression,
forced induction, etc. just don't work out as well without opening of both
ends of what is really just a combustion driven air pump. It equates to
trying to drink a milkshake through a cocktail straw if you leave things as
is. Even if it's only minor gains in the beginning; it leads to bigger and
better results. You need a starting point, and opening up the constricted
intake and output just makes common sense.


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Hoosier_drifter 12 April 2005 07:30:38 permanent link ]
 I've taken both of my Saturns to their governed limits (anyone know how to
get past that without setting off check engine lights, etc.)

Oh, fastest top end in any other cars...
Somewhere between 170-175 in parents Thunderbird SC(some modifications,
computer, intake, eshaust, intercooler.)

Somewhere over 175 in my General Managers new Vette (not the brightest thing
to do when your boss asks you if you want take for a spin.)

160 in a previous employers 300Z Turbo (again, not a smart thing to do.)

Little under 160 in managers new Mustang Cobra at a different previous
employer (starting to see a pattern here?)

In a car that actually belonged to me....fastest would have been 141 in a 65
on what used to be known as the Green River Parkway in Kentucky on the way
back from Bowling Green in my built up 84 Monte SS. I'm quite sure about
the speed, because Kentucky State Troopers are a very truthful and
forthright group of gentlemen. My dad, having been bailed out of jail a few
times in the past himself, was quite understanding.


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Hoosier_drifter 16 April 2005 07:37:48 permanent link ]
 I've always enjoyed the tagline used by a guy on Saturnspot.com, "Hondas are
like tampons, every (insert your slang term for felines here) got one."

Trouble is, I've owned a Civic....was a good, reliable car. Still find
reference funny though.


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