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9-5 SERVICING BY NON-SAAB DEALER

Jim 25 April 2005 17:50:07
 I want to have my 02 Saab 9-5 Aero serviced by a local garage who are not
Saab dealers. Can anyone tell me if/how they will be able to reset the
service indicator system. They (of course) do not have Tec 2.

Are there any (other) reasons why this is not a good idea. They are local,
cheaper, very good etc.

TIA



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Papagene4jack 25 April 2005 23:44:13 permanent link ]
 jim, A good reason is warranty there are some things on a 02 that are still
under warranty. also After owning 4 saabs since 1990 and I volvo I have
found the dealers to be very compeitive on repairs,sometimes even cheaper,
because they go by a saab book on the labor. In other words they charge by
whAT SABB RECOMENDS ON THE LABOR FOR THE REPAIR. I found local shops when
they dont know the problem will start replacing things that dont need to
be replaced anyway that has been my experience good luck papa

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Henrik B. 26 April 2005 22:57:29 permanent link ]
 
"Jim" <jim@nomail.thanks.­com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:NYGdnaJ-P-0paP­HfRVnyug@pipex.net..­.>I want to have my 02 Saab 9-5 Aero serviced by a local garage who are not> Saab dealers. Can anyone tell me if/how they will be able to reset the> service indicator system. They (of course) do not have Tec 2.>
Are there any (other) reasons why this is not a good idea. They are > local,> cheaper, very good etc.

Yes! You'll loose the 8 years Saab engine warranty!

Cheers!


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Malt_Hound 27 April 2005 14:53:37 permanent link ]
 Henrik B. wrote:> "Jim" <jim@nomail.thanks.­com> skrev i en meddelelse > news:NYGdnaJ-P-0paP­HfRVnyug@pipex.net..­.>
I want to have my 02 Saab 9-5 Aero serviced by a local garage who are not>>Saab dealers. Can anyone tell me if/how they will be able to reset the>>service indicator system. They (of course) do not have Tec 2.>>
Are there any (other) reasons why this is not a good idea. They are >>local,>>cheaper, very good etc.>
Yes! You'll loose the 8 years Saab engine warranty!>
Cheers! >


Baloney!! You will *not* lose your factory warranty, whatever term it
is. Just be sure to have all *required* maintenance fully documented
wherever you have it done.

-Fred W
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Henrik B. 27 April 2005 15:07:22 permanent link ]
 
"Malt_Hound" <Malt_Hound@*spam*ahoo.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:MJmdnWgkFIWo8v­LfRVn-rg@adelphia.co­m...
Yes! You'll loose the 8 years Saab engine warranty!>>
Cheers!>
Baloney!! You will *not* lose your factory warranty, whatever term it is. > Just be sure to have all *required* maintenance fully documented wherever > you have it done.

And where do you see, that you won't loose the newly expanded 8 years
engine-warranty, if you don't use authorized service? I agree that you don't
loose your law-admitted warranty. But this 8 years expanded engine warranty,
is something speciel provided by Saab and isn't regulated by law.

Cheers!


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Malt_Hound 27 April 2005 16:13:23 permanent link ]
 Henrik B. wrote:> "Malt_Hound" <Malt_Hound@*spam*ahoo.com> skrev i en meddelelse > news:MJmdnWgkFIWo8v­LfRVn-rg@adelphia.co­m...>
Yes! You'll loose the 8 years Saab engine warranty!>>>
Cheers!>>
Baloney!! You will *not* lose your factory warranty, whatever term it is. >>Just be sure to have all *required* maintenance fully documented wherever >>you have it done.>
And where do you see, that you won't loose the newly expanded 8 years > engine-warranty, if you don't use authorized service? I agree that you don't > loose your law-admitted warranty. But this 8 years expanded engine warranty, > is something speciel provided by Saab and isn't regulated by law.>
Cheers! >

All warranties are regulated by law. No warranties are required by law,
but once offered, it becomes a part of the sales agreement. Legal
precedent has provided that no manufacturer can stipulate warranty
coverage eligibility based on whether the routine service was done by
the warranter or not. Only that the routine service has to have been
accomplished.

This would be covered by anti-trust laws in the US. It would amount to
limiting SAAB from drumming up service business through their warranty.

You just can't do that, at least not in the US.

I'm not a lawyer, (and I don't play one on TV) but this is my
understanding of the situation.

-Fred W
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Henrik B. 27 April 2005 17:24:44 permanent link ]
 
"Malt_Hound" <Malt_Hound@*spam*ahoo.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:T4-dnaYpuc11HP­LfRVn-tQ@adelphia.co­m...
You just can't do that, at least not in the US.

And you are asuming that everybody "in here" are in the US....

Cheers!


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Malt_Hound 27 April 2005 19:03:41 permanent link ]
 Henrik B. wrote:> "Malt_Hound" <Malt_Hound@*spam*ahoo.com> skrev i en meddelelse > news:T4-dnaYpuc11HP­LfRVn-tQ@adelphia.co­m...>
You just can't do that, at least not in the US.>
And you are asuming that everybody "in here" are in the US....>
Cheers! >

No, not at all. I've been around long enough to know better. But I am
assuming that consumer protection laws are reasonably close in other
developed countries.

Cheers back!

-Fred W
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Dave Hinz 27 April 2005 19:40:07 permanent link ]
 On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:24:44 +0200, Henrik B. <saab@_NOSPAM_tdcad­sl.dk> wrote:>
"Malt_Hound" <Malt_Hound@*spam*ahoo.com> skrev i en meddelelse > news:T4-dnaYpuc11HP­LfRVn-tQ@adelphia.co­m...>
You just can't do that, at least not in the US.>
And you are asuming that everybody "in here" are in the US....

Funny, I see him specifically saying "at least not in the US", which to
me pretty explicitly shows that he acknowledges that everyone here
isn't.

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Johannes 27 April 2005 20:11:09 permanent link ]
 

Malt_Hound wrote:>
Henrik B. wrote:> > "Malt_Hound" <Malt_Hound@*spam*ahoo.com> skrev i en meddelelse> > news:MJmdnWgkFIWo8v­LfRVn-rg@adelphia.co­m...> >
Yes! You'll loose the 8 years Saab engine warranty!> >>>
Cheers!> >>
Baloney!! You will *not* lose your factory warranty, whatever term it is.> >>Just be sure to have all *required* maintenance fully documented wherever> >>you have it done.> >
And where do you see, that you won't loose the newly expanded 8 years> > engine-warranty, if you don't use authorized service? I agree that you don't> > loose your law-admitted warranty. But this 8 years expanded engine warranty,> > is something speciel provided by Saab and isn't regulated by law.> >
Cheers!> >
All warranties are regulated by law. No warranties are required by law,> but once offered, it becomes a part of the sales agreement. Legal> precedent has provided that no manufacturer can stipulate warranty> coverage eligibility based on whether the routine service was done by> the warranter or not. Only that the routine service has to have been> accomplished.>
This would be covered by anti-trust laws in the US. It would amount to> limiting SAAB from drumming up service business through their warranty.>
You just can't do that, at least not in the US.>
I'm not a lawyer, (and I don't play one on TV) but this is my> understanding of the situation.

There have been various attempts by manufacturers to get EU rulings that
increases their control. I'm not sure how far the state of play is. But
attempts have been made to outlaw car body panels and other spares from
third parties.
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Dan 27 April 2005 23:44:10 permanent link ]
 On 4/27/2005 6:07 AM, Henrik B. wrote:> "Malt_Hound" <Malt_Hound@*spam*ahoo.com> skrev i en meddelelse > news:MJmdnWgkFIWo8v­LfRVn-rg@adelphia.co­m...>
Yes! You'll loose the 8 years Saab engine warranty!>>>
Cheers!>>
Baloney!! You will *not* lose your factory warranty, whatever term it is. >>Just be sure to have all *required* maintenance fully documented wherever >>you have it done.>
And where do you see, that you won't loose the newly expanded 8 years > engine-warranty, if you don't use authorized service? I agree that you don't > loose your law-admitted warranty. But this 8 years expanded engine warranty, > is something speciel provided by Saab and isn't regulated by law.>
Cheers! >

Can you point saab link that documents this warranty?
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Henrik B. 28 April 2005 11:28:23 permanent link ]
 
"Dan" <dan@nospam.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:fYRbe.21$7A1.9­120@news.uswest.net.­..
Can you point saab link that documents this warranty?

Only in swedish...
http://www.saab.com­/main/SE/sv/pressrel­eases/recent/4/index­.xml

Cheers!


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