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405 diesal leak

sean storer via CarKB.com 5 April 2005 04:19:53
 i got a 405 turbo diesal 1.9 with lucas fuel pump and got a serious diesal
leak from the engine compartment near top of engine i think. it appears to
be from cam belt side of engine rather than from fuel pump section on top i
checked all pipes going to pump and nothing from there has anyone got any
ideas? when i say serious i lost bout 1/2 tank of fuel in couple of miles.
it only leaks when engine is running not when ignition is on if that helps

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G.T 2 April 2005 18:10:49 [ permanent link ]
 Hi,

I'd bet that Diesel pump's drive-end seal is worn. Have a Diesel specialist
to replace the seal. It happended on my brother's '91 205 TD. Come on, it's
a Roto / Lucas pump ?

Regards,
G.T
g.t6@worldonline.fr­
205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st


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Nigel 2 April 2005 19:30:23 [ permanent link ]
 On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 16:10:49 +0200, "G.T" <g.t6@worldonline.f­r> wrote:
Hi,>
I'd bet that Diesel pump's drive-end seal is worn. Have a Diesel specialist>to replace the seal. It happended on my brother's '91 205 TD. Come on, it's>a Roto / Lucas pump ?>
Regards,>G.T>g.t6@­worldonline.fr>205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st>
I agree. But I have known it on the Bosch type too, though only once
or twice. Lucas much more!!!
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Mindwipe 2 April 2005 21:21:42 [ permanent link ]
 
"Nigel" <ng68@blueyonder.co­.uk> wrote in message
news:uiet411lk32pra­dcv9kgedlkucc54k0t6u­@4ax.com...> On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 16:10:49 +0200, "G.T" <g.t6@worldonline.f­r> wrote:>
Hi,>>
I'd bet that Diesel pump's drive-end seal is worn. Have a Diesel >>specialist>>to replace the seal. It happended on my brother's '91 205 TD. Come on, >>it's>>a Roto / Lucas pump ?>>
Regards,>>G.T>>g.­t6@worldonline.fr>>2­05 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st>>­
I agree. But I have known it on the Bosch type too, though only once> or twice. Lucas much more!!!

usually doesnt make a difference on the make
it usually down to overtightening of cam belt or the occasional fill with
petrol by accident


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sean storer via CarKB.com 2 April 2005 21:28:53 [ permanent link ]
 the engine was acting very sluggih hardly any power then the power came
back but with the leak does that work with the theory about drive end seal?
the engine runs fine now but throws diesel out. would it b easier and
cheaper to get replacacement from scrappies ?

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Nigel 2 April 2005 23:02:39 [ permanent link ]
 On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 17:28:53 GMT, "sean storer via CarKB.com"
<forum@CarKB.com> wrote:
the engine was acting very sluggih hardly any power then the power came>back but with the leak does that work with the theory about drive end seal?>the engine runs fine now but throws diesel out. would it b easier and>cheaper to get replacacement from scrappies ?
Doesn't cost that much to get the seal replaced as long as there is no
other damage. Of course you would have to get the pump off, but you
would have to do that whichever route you took.
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Brian 3 April 2005 00:05:32 [ permanent link ]
 
"Nigel" <ng68@blueyonder.co­.uk> wrote in message
news:dvqt41ts7kccc4­8jb93thdqjtl39fss50b­@4ax.com...> On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 17:28:53 GMT, "sean storer via CarKB.com"> <forum@CarKB.com> wrote:>
the engine was acting very sluggih hardly any power then the power came> >back but with the leak does that work with the theory about drive end
seal?> >the engine runs fine now but throws diesel out. would it b easier and> >cheaper to get replacacement from scrappies ?> Doesn't cost that much to get the seal replaced as long as there is no> other damage. Of course you would have to get the pump off, but you> would have to do that whichever route you took.

Just make sure that the leak off pipes on the injectors are still OK. I had
a similar problem with a leak, top offside of the engine, and it was the
leak off pipe on the timing end injector, the one which is just a plug.
Worth checking before stripping half the engine down.

Brian.


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G.T 3 April 2005 20:49:36 [ permanent link ]
 Hi,
sometimes the seal simply goes because the pump bearing is worn> in cases like these a new seal is a temp fix
It makes good sense to me.
to be fair a good diesel mechanic can tell
Yes. Giving the pump to a Diesel specialist would be my best advice anyway,
as opening such pumps really requires that you know what you're doing - and
I wouldn't consider taking the risk ! Excepted for easy ops like throttle
actuator cover change, of course.

Regards,
G.T
g.t6@worldonline.fr­
205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st


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Fitzy 3 April 2005 22:47:51 [ permanent link ]
 if it leaks only when running, its worth checking the fuel return pipe,
as this could be the problem, and it is in the timing belt area,

Fitzy


"brian" <brilec.nospam@tesc­o.net> wrote in message
news:gWC3e.2034$JO6­.1193@newsfe6-win.nt­li.net...>
"Nigel" <ng68@blueyonder.co­.uk> wrote in message> news:dvqt41ts7kccc4­8jb93thdqjtl39fss50b­@4ax.com...>> On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 17:28:53 GMT, "sean storer via CarKB.com">> <forum@CarKB.com> wrote:>>
the engine was acting very sluggih hardly any power then the power came>> >back but with the leak does that work with the theory about drive end> seal?>> >the engine runs fine now but throws diesel out. would it b easier and>> >cheaper to get replacacement from scrappies ?>> Doesn't cost that much to get the seal replaced as long as there is no>> other damage. Of course you would have to get the pump off, but you>> would have to do that whichever route you took.>
Just make sure that the leak off pipes on the injectors are still OK. I > had> a similar problem with a leak, top offside of the engine, and it was the> leak off pipe on the timing end injector, the one which is just a plug.> Worth checking before stripping half the engine down.>
Brian.>


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Mindwipe 3 April 2005 23:59:25 [ permanent link ]
 
"G.T" <g.t6@worldonline.f­r> wrote in message
news:42503837$0$165­14$636a15ce@news.fre­e.fr...> Hi,>
sometimes the seal simply goes because the pump bearing is worn>> in cases like these a new seal is a temp fix> It makes good sense to me.>
to be fair a good diesel mechanic can tell> Yes. Giving the pump to a Diesel specialist would be my best advice > anyway,> as opening such pumps really requires that you know what you're doing - > and> I wouldn't consider taking the risk ! Excepted for easy ops like throttle> actuator cover change, of course.>
Regards,> G.T> g.t6@worldonline.fr­> 205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st>

sometimes a tech will just fit a seal though
not even checking for shaft movement
then it will last a short while cos the seals are quite good and then fail
later
suppose some people get rid in the middle!!


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Mindwipe 4 April 2005 00:00:27 [ permanent link ]
 
"Fitzy" <peterfitzpatrick@b­topenworld.com> wrote in message
news:d2pdon$4jh$1@s­parta.btinternet.com­...> if it leaks only when running, its worth checking the fuel return pipe,> as this could be the problem, and it is in the timing belt area,>
Fitzy>
"brian" <brilec.nospam@tesc­o.net> wrote in message > news:gWC3e.2034$JO6­.1193@newsfe6-win.nt­li.net...>>
"Nigel" <ng68@blueyonder.co­.uk> wrote in message>> news:dvqt41ts7kccc4­8jb93thdqjtl39fss50b­@4ax.com...>>> On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 17:28:53 GMT, "sean storer via CarKB.com">>> <forum@CarKB.com> wrote:>>>
the engine was acting very sluggih hardly any power then the power came>>> >back but with the leak does that work with the theory about drive end>> seal?>>> >the engine runs fine now but throws diesel out. would it b easier and>>> >cheaper to get replacacement from scrappies ?>>> Doesn't cost that much to get the seal replaced as long as there is no>>> other damage. Of course you would have to get the pump off, but you>>> would have to do that whichever route you took.>>
Just make sure that the leak off pipes on the injectors are still OK. I >> had>> a similar problem with a leak, top offside of the engine, and it was the>> leak off pipe on the timing end injector, the one which is just a plug.>> Worth checking before stripping half the engine down.>>
Brian.>>

also bear in mind that if the belt is contaminated it needs renewing too


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sean storer via CarKB.com 5 April 2005 04:19:53 [ permanent link ]
 i tried looking for the fuel return pipe but cant seem to locate it in the
timing belt area there doesnt seem to be any pipes around that area at all
i think the fuel return goes round other side doesnt it ????

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