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Jesus Would Hate Bush
Freedom Fries 8 May 2005 10:24:01
	Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically lose tax exempt status. Everytime it seems the right wing retard jesus freaks can't sink any lower they reach a new low. The north should have destroyed the south when it had the chance 150 years ago. It's amazing that these southern retards think Jesus would support the new Rome America. Dems Voted Out of Church Weigh Options By PAUL NOWELL, Associated Press Writer Sat May 7, 7:51 PM ET WAYNESVILLE, N.C. - A pastor who led a charge to kick out nine church members who refused to support President Bush was the talk of the town Saturday in this mountain hamlet, with ousted congregants considering hiring a lawyer. Pastor Chan Chandler greeted people at the door of tiny East Waynesville Baptist Church on Saturday evening as the church choir practiced and even welcomed them to attend services Sunday morning - if there's room inside. But he was not prepared to talk about his mixing of religion and politics. "On the advice of counsel, I've been advised not to have any comment at this time," Chandler told The Associated Press. "We will have a statement later." Members of the congregation said Chandler told them during last year's presidential campaign that anyone who planned to vote for Democratic nominee John Kerry needed to leave the church. Longtime member Selma Morris, who was treasurer at the church, said Chandler's sermons remained political after Bush won re-election. This past week, his comments turned to politics again at a church gathering that ended with nine members voted out. Morris said Saturday that some of the ousted members planned to meet with an attorney on Monday to discuss their options. "We're hoping he (the attorney) will make him leave so that the church members can come back," she said. "This is very disturbing," said Pastor Robert Prince III, who leads the congregation at the nearby First Baptist Church. "I've been a pastor for more than 25 years, and I have never seen church members voted out for something like this." Those who are still members did not know if the church would be open for services Sunday, or if Chandler would be in the pulpit to preach. The 100-member East Waynesville Baptist Church sits on a bluff a short distance from downtown Waynesville, a mountain town about 125 miles northwest of Charlotte. A white steeple and stain glass windows adorn the simple brick structure, built in 1965, with a view of the mountains from the front steps. Across the street sits the church's parsonage, a small brick ranch home with children's toys scattered in the front lawn. A small wooden sign out front reads simply "The Chandlers." No one answered the phone there on Saturday. In the days since the nine members were ousted, many more members have reportedly left the church in protest. "He went on and on about how he's going to bring politics up, and if we didn't agree with him, we should leave," Isaac Sutton told The News and Observer of Raleigh. "I think I deserve the right to vote for who I want to." Sutton, a deacon who worshipped at East Waynesville Baptist Church for the past 12 years, said he and his wife were among the nine voted out. "I've been going to this church for 25 years and I've never had a problem," Sutton's wife, Lorene, told The Associated Press on Friday. "He's young and he thinks he knows everything." Other former members of the church declined to speak with a reporter Saturday, citing the advice of their attorney. But the furor over politics at the church was the talk of Waynesville, a community of about 9,200 residents. "It's just an outrage for something like this to happen in America," said Heidi Jenkins, 52, as she held a garage sale at her home down the street from the church. Prince said he noticed during the presidential campaign that more pastors made endorsements - although not from the pulpit - than in past years. "It used to be that pastors would speak about the issues and not specific candidates," he said. "I think that line is being crossed."
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Damon Scott Hynes 8 May 2005 17:31:22 [ permanent link ]
	What does this have to do with GWB, you teenager? Did this pastor have hie secret decoder ring that picks up messages from Karl Rove? -- Damon Scott Hynes got three passports, a couple of visas __ http://www.opensecrets.us/ Marny Stanier Midkiff -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheMarnyStanierAppreciationSociety/
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StephenJ 8 May 2005 19:13:32 [ permanent link ]
	Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically lose tax> exempt status. Ok, after we strip it from every black church that has ever had a preacher exhort the flock to vote democratic from the pulpit. Funny, but i don't recall Dems whining about the mixing of church and state back in the "civil rights era", but maybe i just have a short memory....? -- "if federal judges have the final word over its meaning, the Constitution would be a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form they please". - Thomas Jefferson
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Joshua 8 May 2005 22:57:40 [ permanent link ]
	StephenJ wrote: Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically lose tax>>exempt status.> Ok, after we strip it from every black church that has ever had a preacher> exhort the flock to vote democratic from the pulpit.> Funny, but i don't recall Dems whining about the mixing of church and state> back in the "civil rights era",> but maybe i just have a short memory....?> Cite? All I know is that they support CAUSES, not CANDIDATES. And CANDIDATES visiting churches does not constitute official endorsement.
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Jack Straw 8 May 2005 23:00:59 [ permanent link ]
	"StephenJ" <cjones@corpus.com> wrote in news:C0qfe.12995$ye1.11204@okepread06: Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically lose>> tax exempt status.> Ok, after we strip it from every black church that has ever had a> preacher exhort the flock to vote democratic from the pulpit.> Funny, but i don't recall Dems whining about the mixing of church and> state back in the "civil rights era",> but maybe i just have a short memory....?> its good to know that somethings never change. like jaros being an obtuse moron.
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Justin Pate 9 May 2005 01:10:54 [ permanent link ]
	"Damon Scott Hynes" <damonhynes@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:zwofe.46260$QR1.31636@fe04.lga...> What does this have to do with GWB, you teenager? Did this pastor have> hie secret decoder ring that picks up messages from Karl Rove?> Really. Bush is more of a moderate than people still realize. He believes in democracy and listens to his constituents just like anybody else. Bush even said in a nationalized speech a week or two back that he respects all religions and political views. Rather, all this other stuff is just a symptom of the country moving further to the right and finding religion again. Bush can't be blamed for that. It's not like it wouldn't be happening if Kerry was president. Bush doesn't run the churches. See, he believes in the separation of church and state...
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Zaphod Beeblebrox 9 May 2005 01:24:47 [ permanent link ]
	Justin Pate wrote:> "Damon Scott Hynes" <damonhynes@hotmail.com> wrote in message> news:zwofe.46260$QR1.31636@fe04.lga...> What does this have to do with GWB, you teenager? Did this pastor have>>hie secret decoder ring that picks up messages from Karl Rove?>> Really. Bush is more of a moderate than people still realize. He believes> in democracy and listens to his constituents just like anybody else. Bush> even said in a nationalized speech a week or two back that he respects all> religions and political views. Rather, all this other stuff is just a> symptom of the country moving further to the right and finding religion> again. Bush can't be blamed for that. It's not like it wouldn't be> happening if Kerry was president. Bush doesn't run the churches. See, he> believes in the separation of church and state...> I'm having a really hard time deciding whether this is a clever post or a dumb post... -- I'm so hip I have trouble seeing over my pelvis. I'm so cool you can keep a side of meat in me for months.
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Justin Pate 9 May 2005 01:37:45 [ permanent link ]
	"Zaphod Beeblebrox" <victor.kingNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message news:m5ednUrlAoY_HuPfRVn-qQ@comcast.com...> I'm having a really hard time deciding whether this is a clever post or> a dumb post... Justin Pate wrote: Rather, all this other stuff is just a> > symptom of the country moving further to the right and finding religion> > again. Bush can't be blamed for that. It's not like it wouldn't be> > happening if Kerry was president. Bush doesn't run the churches. > >> > Is this statement inaccurate? Seems pretty truthful to me.....
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StephenJ 9 May 2005 02:38:11 [ permanent link ]
	Funny, but i don't recall Dems whining about the mixing of church and state> > back in the "civil rights era",> > but maybe i just have a short memory....? Cite? Do you also want a "cite" for the earth being round not flat? All I know is that they support CAUSES, not CANDIDATES. And> CANDIDATES visiting churches does not constitute official endorsement. ROFL! I'm shocked you'd stoop to that kind of laughably puerile parsing. -- "if federal judges have the final word over its meaning, the Constitution would be a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form they please". - Thomas Jefferson
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StephenJ 9 May 2005 02:40:09 [ permanent link ]
	its good to know that somethings never change. like jaros being an obtuse> moron. Aren't you the mental clown who defended kerry not sharing some of his campaign wealth with democrat candidates? Forgive me if i'm wrong...
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Jack Straw 9 May 2005 03:32:41 [ permanent link ]
	"StephenJ" <cjones@corpus.com> wrote in news:lzwfe.13019$ye1.11141@okepread06: its good to know that somethings never change. like jaros being an>> obtuse moron.> Aren't you the mental clown who defended kerry not sharing some of his> campaign wealth with democrat candidates?> Forgive me if i'm wrong...> whats to forgive. its standard practice.
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Jeff Mayner 9 May 2005 08:17:19 [ permanent link ]
	Justin Pate wrote:> "Damon Scott Hynes" <damonhynes@hotmail.com> wrote in message> news:zwofe.46260$QR1.31636@fe04.lga...>> What does this have to do with GWB, you teenager? Did this pastor>> have hie secret decoder ring that picks up messages from Karl Rove?>> Really. Bush is more of a moderate than people still realize. He> believes in democracy and listens to his constituents just like> anybody else. Bush even said in a nationalized speech a week or two> back that he respects all religions and political views. Rather, all> this other stuff is just a symptom of the country moving further to> the right and finding religion again. Bush can't be blamed for that.> It's not like it wouldn't be happening if Kerry was president. Bush> doesn't run the churches. See, he believes in the separation of> church and state... Oh boy! I thought we were headed for trouble and GWB, Karl Rove, Andy Card, and Tom DeLay were riding out front like the Four Horseman of the Apocolypse. Glad to know I was wrong. Jeff
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Jeff Mayner 9 May 2005 08:18:30 [ permanent link ]
	Justin Pate wrote:> "Zaphod Beeblebrox" <victor.kingNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message> news:m5ednUrlAoY_HuPfRVn-qQ@comcast.com...>> I'm having a really hard time deciding whether this is a clever post>> or a dumb post...> Justin Pate wrote:> Rather, all this other stuff is just a>>> symptom of the country moving further to the right and finding>>> religion again. Bush can't be blamed for that. It's not like it>>> wouldn't be happening if Kerry was president. Bush doesn't run the>>> churches. > >>>> Is this statement inaccurate? Seems pretty truthful to me.....Well. Some > people's truth is based in reality and some aren't. I'll leave it to you to figure out where your's is based. Jeff
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