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RPG Eastabooga - McCoy
John McCoy 28 April 2005 06:02:38
	OK, guesses for the place formerly known as Eastabooga and now known as Talladega (presumably because Bill France didn't think Eastabooga was a sufficiently attractive sounding name): 1) Jimmie Johnson keeps the points lead! Actually, I'm gonna guess JJ finishes outside the top 20 (but still keeps the points lead, of course). Someone who should be strong is gonna either get in a wreck, or just get shuffled out at the wrong time, and if luck balances out it's as likely to be Johnson as anyone. 2) Elliot Sadler wins. He runs Dega well, with Yates engines he's got as much power as anyone, and I figure he's used up his share of bad luck already at this track. 3) Both the 8 and 15 will be in the top 10, but only one of them will be in the top 5. These guys don't seem to work together as well as they used to. 4) There's only one Roush car in the top 10. 5) Harvick is the top finishing RCR car. Burton probably should be the better plate racer, with patience to wait till a line gets moving, but he doesn't like the plate tracks. Bonus: Truex wins w/ Earnhardt 2nd and Waltrip 3rd. John
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John McCoy 28 April 2006 04:10:01 [ permanent link ]
	The Win: Greg Biffle. Plate tracks aren't really his strong suit, altho he did win the Firecracker, but it's pretty much random who ends up on top anyway. 1. Earnhardt Jr gets a T5 but does not win. This one is kind of a no-brainer, isn't it. 2. Tony Stewart gets a T5 but does not win. Likewise this one...both of these guys are strong on the plate tracks, altho Stewart has never won Dega 3. Only one out of Hamlin, Yeley, Bowyer, Truex makes it into the T10. Dega tends to be good to rookies, and we know Hamlin at least can run with a draft. But the opportunities for mistakes, specially in the pits, argue against too many up there. 4. 4 of the T5 cars are Chevies. 5. Waltrip does qualify for the race, does not finish ahead of Mayfield, and does not rejoin the T35. I'm taking a chance on this one - Waltrip is a lousy qualifier, and there's a good chance he won't be fast enough to be in the race (he wasn't at Daytona, if he'd had to get in on speed). Bonus: someone steals the pace car and does Kulwicki style Polish victory laps. () Kurt Busch Bonus: "I didn't see him because I was looking at the window net to make sure it wasn't coming loose". John ( I'd have stopped at "steals the pace car", except that's already happened, so it wouldn't be a "once in a lifetime")
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Tom S 28 April 2006 09:01:25 [ permanent link ]
	On 28 Apr 2006 00:10:01 GMT, John McCoy <igopogo@ix.netcom.com> wrote: The Win: Greg Biffle. Plate tracks aren't really his strong>suit, altho he did win the Firecracker, but it's pretty much>random who ends up on top anyway.> 1. Earnhardt Jr gets a T5 but does not win.>This one is kind of a no-brainer, isn't it.> 2. Tony Stewart gets a T5 but does not win.>Likewise this one...both of these guys are strong on the plate>tracks, altho Stewart has never won Dega> 3. Only one out of Hamlin, Yeley, Bowyer, Truex makes it into>the T10.>Dega tends to be good to rookies, and we know Hamlin at least>can run with a draft. But the opportunities for mistakes,>specially in the pits, argue against too many up there.> 4. 4 of the T5 cars are Chevies.> 5. Waltrip does qualify for the race, does not finish>ahead of Mayfield, and does not rejoin the T35.>I'm taking a chance on this one - Waltrip is a lousy qualifier,>and there's a good chance he won't be fast enough to be in>the race (he wasn't at Daytona, if he'd had to get in on speed).> I'm confused. According to NASCAR.com, Mikey is in 35th right now, so he is automatically in the race. Are you saying he will drop out of the top 35 after 'Dega? Tom S. Bonus: someone steals the pace car and does Kulwicki>style Polish victory laps. ()> Kurt Busch Bonus: "I didn't see him because I was looking>at the window net to make sure it wasn't coming loose".> John> ( I'd have stopped at "steals the pace car", except that's>already happened, so it wouldn't be a "once in a lifetime")
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Gordon 28 April 2006 17:25:02 [ permanent link ]
	On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 23:01:25 CST, Tom S <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote: On 28 Apr 2006 00:10:01 GMT, John McCoy <igopogo@ix.netcom.com> wrote:> The Win: Greg Biffle. Plate tracks aren't really his strong>>suit, altho he did win the Firecracker, but it's pretty much>>random who ends up on top anyway.>> 1. Earnhardt Jr gets a T5 but does not win.>>This one is kind of a no-brainer, isn't it.>> 2. Tony Stewart gets a T5 but does not win.>>Likewise this one...both of these guys are strong on the plate>>tracks, altho Stewart has never won Dega>> 3. Only one out of Hamlin, Yeley, Bowyer, Truex makes it into>>the T10.>>Dega tends to be good to rookies, and we know Hamlin at least>>can run with a draft. But the opportunities for mistakes,>>specially in the pits, argue against too many up there.>> 4. 4 of the T5 cars are Chevies.>> 5. Waltrip does qualify for the race, does not finish>>ahead of Mayfield, and does not rejoin the T35.>>I'm taking a chance on this one - Waltrip is a lousy qualifier,>>and there's a good chance he won't be fast enough to be in>>the race (he wasn't at Daytona, if he'd had to get in on speed).>> I'm confused. According to NASCAR.com, Mikey is in 35th right now, so>he is automatically in the race. Are you saying he will drop out of>the top 35 after 'Dega?> Tom S.> Drivers points, yes. Car owner points, which is how the rules set the T35, no. 36-2#55Douglas Bawel595-62380 0 0 Beginning with the sixth race, the top 35 in current owners' points are guaranteed a spot. G<
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John McCoy 29 April 2006 03:30:02 [ permanent link ]
	Tom S <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote in news:sh0352hmcbstbmu2oif3v6abdbjuhjvivm@ 4ax.com: I'm confused. According to NASCAR.com, Mikey is in 35th right now, so> he is automatically in the race. Are you saying he will drop out of> the top 35 after 'Dega? As Gordon noted, that's driver points. It's weird right now because of the 96 car. Terry Labonte ran 5 races, and Tony Raines has run 3. Since neither of them has run all 8 races, they're way down in the drivers points. But their points combined are enough to put the 96 in 27th in owners points. Thus for all the cars below that point the drivers & owners points differ by 1 (e.g. Waltrip 35th in drivers & 36th in the owners points). Credit to the 96 team for coming up with a plan to manage the points in their favor. By running Labonte for the first 5 races they basically guaranteed starting (since he has a past champs provisional) which got them in the top 35, with Raines a pretty consistant finisher around 20th they'll stay in with no problems. Had they not had Labonte, and missed one of the first 5 events, even with 20th place finishes it might have been very hard to climb into the top 35. John
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Gordon 29 April 2006 04:10:01 [ permanent link ]
	"John McCoy" <igopogo@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:Xns97B3C5C89E0B2pogosupernews@216.168.3.30...> Tom S <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote in news:sh0352hmcbstbmu2oif3v6abdbjuhjvivm@> 4ax.com:> I'm confused. According to NASCAR.com, Mikey is in 35th right now, so>> he is automatically in the race. Are you saying he will drop out of>> the top 35 after 'Dega?> As Gordon noted, that's driver points. It's weird right now> because of the 96 car. Terry Labonte ran 5 races, and Tony> Raines has run 3. Since neither of them has run all 8 races,> they're way down in the drivers points. But their points> combined are enough to put the 96 in 27th in owners points.> Thus for all the cars below that point the drivers & owners> points differ by 1 (e.g. Waltrip 35th in drivers & 36th in> the owners points).> Credit to the 96 team for coming up with a plan to manage> the points in their favor. By running Labonte for the first> 5 races they basically guaranteed starting (since he has a> past champs provisional) which got them in the top 35, with> Raines a pretty consistant finisher around 20th they'll stay> in with no problems. Had they not had Labonte, and missed> one of the first 5 events, even with 20th place finishes it> might have been very hard to climb into the top 35.> John> Didn't RCR win a Busch championship or come close with more than one driver recently? G<
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Armpit 29 April 2006 18:56:09 [ permanent link ]
	"Gordon" <jimmygator@gmail.com> wrote in message news:39y4g.11189$Es3.2273@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...> "John McCoy" <igopogo@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message > news:Xns97B3C5C89E0B2pogosupernews@216.168.3.30...>> Tom S <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote in >> news:sh0352hmcbstbmu2oif3v6abdbjuhjvivm@>> 4ax.com:>> I'm confused. According to NASCAR.com, Mikey is in 35th right now, so>>> he is automatically in the race. Are you saying he will drop out of>>> the top 35 after 'Dega?>> As Gordon noted, that's driver points. It's weird right now>> because of the 96 car. Terry Labonte ran 5 races, and Tony>> Raines has run 3. Since neither of them has run all 8 races,>> they're way down in the drivers points. But their points>> combined are enough to put the 96 in 27th in owners points.>> Thus for all the cars below that point the drivers & owners>> points differ by 1 (e.g. Waltrip 35th in drivers & 36th in>> the owners points).>> Credit to the 96 team for coming up with a plan to manage>> the points in their favor. By running Labonte for the first>> 5 races they basically guaranteed starting (since he has a>> past champs provisional) which got them in the top 35, with>> Raines a pretty consistant finisher around 20th they'll stay>> in with no problems. Had they not had Labonte, and missed>> one of the first 5 events, even with 20th place finishes it>> might have been very hard to climb into the top 35.>> John>> Didn't RCR win a Busch championship or come close with more than one > driver recently?> G< In 2003 Brian Vickers won the driver points championship driving for HMS, while Richard childress won the owner points championship with the #21 car. Kevin Harvick drove it in 19 races, the remaining races, ???
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John McCoy 30 April 2006 02:34:21 [ permanent link ]
	"armpit" <armarmpitpit@yahoo.com> wrote in news:44537f65$0$1356$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere.com: Didn't RCR win a Busch championship or come close with more than one >> driver recently?>> G<> In 2003 Brian Vickers won the driver points championship driving for> HMS, while Richard childress won the owner points championship with> the #21 car. Kevin Harvick drove it in 19 races, the remaining races,> ??? Johnny Sauter, who filled out his year driving the #43 for Mike Curb, ending up 8th in the drivers points. I don't beleive Curb attempted any of the races where Sauter wasn't available to drive for him. BTW, you posted this on "the other side", was that intentional? John
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Armpit 30 April 2006 09:20:24 [ permanent link ]
	"John McCoy" <igopogo@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:Xns97B4BDCBE6AACpogosupernews@216.168.3.30...> "armpit" <armarmpitpit@yahoo.com> wrote in> news:44537f65$0$1356$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere.com:> Didn't RCR win a Busch championship or come close with more than one> >> driver recently?> >> G<> > In 2003 Brian Vickers won the driver points championship driving for> > HMS, while Richard childress won the owner points championship with> > the #21 car. Kevin Harvick drove it in 19 races, the remaining races,> > ???> Johnny Sauter, who filled out his year driving the #43 for Mike> Curb, ending up 8th in the drivers points.> I don't beleive Curb attempted any of the races where Sauter> wasn't available to drive for him.> BTW, you posted this on "the other side", was that intentional?> John Nope. I use a free server at work, but I have to post from a different server than the one I read from, and with OE you have to re-enter the group(s) you are posting to when you change servers. I just entered the wrong group, that's all.
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WildWeasel 2 May 2006 05:30:01 [ permanent link ]
	last try ... "WildWeasel" wrote in message news:...> take 2 ...> 4/28/06 @ 9:07AM> "WildWeasel" wrote ...> "Gordon" wrote ...>>> I'm confused. According to NASCAR.com, Mikey is in 35th right now, so>>> Drivers points, yes. Car owner points, which is how the rules set the>> T35, no.>> 36 -2 #55 Douglas Bawel 595 -623 8 0 0>> 0>> Beginning with the sixth race, the top 35 in current owners' points>> are guaranteed a spot.>> G<> Owners points! Doh! ndotcom doesn't show owners points. Here they are:> http://www.jayski.com/stats/2006standings/apr22.htm#OWN>
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John McCoy 29 April 2007 00:00:34 [ permanent link ]
	OK, this should be Marty's week, 'cause Talladega's about as random as it gets... The Win: Ricky Rudd. The car is fast, the Yates motor is powerful, Rudd has the experience to stay out of trouble, and this is entirely guesswork anyway so I might as well pick someone I like 1 - exactly 2 Hendrick cars in the T10. All of them are fast, but I'm guessing 2 will have some sort of problem, either a weird pitstop or, of course, the big wreck. (for the purposes of this pick I'm just counting the 4 Hendrick owned cars, not the Ginn or Haas teams that use Hendrick motors). 2 - exactly zero Roush cars in the T10. (For the purposes of this RPG I'm not counting Said as a Roush car). None of them, except McMurray, are exactly slow; none of them are exactly fast either. 3 - Jeremy Mayfield is top Toyota and is T20. It's between him and Reutimann - Jarrett's in the show, but is so slow he'll probably be laps down by the first pitstop. 4 - Riggs, Kahne, Sadler qual'd in that order, they finish in the same order (not necessarily consecutive places). Riggs might have a qualifying setup in the car, but I'm guessing it'll run well enough to keep him up near the front until the first pitstop. 5 - The south side prevails over the north side (Wahd Burton finishes ahead of Jeff Burton). bonus - frightened by practice speeds well over 198, NASCAR bans the use of tape for the race. John
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John McCoy 27 April 2008 22:10:41 [ permanent link ]
	Well, another plate race where it's hard to get any hints from qualifying thanks to the go-or-go-homers running significantly faster qualifying setups. However: The Win: Stewart shows the speed in qualifying was not a fluke, and gets the first win from pole we've had in a while. 1) top Chevy - is neither Nemechek or Shrader (the two fastest) or Earnhardt, but instead is Johnson. 2) top Ford - Kenseth shows skill in traffic outweighs speed in qualifying. 3) top Dodge - kind of a moot point, they're all slow. Sadler is probably best at working the draft, so I'll pick him for top Dodge. 4) Nemechek, Allmendinger, Shrader, Wood and Petty all used qualifying setups to post top 15 qualifying times. None of them finishes in the top 20. 5) Aric Almirola is again best of the (somewhat depleted) rookie contingent (best wishes to Franchitti, injured in the Nationwide race and thus not participating in the Cup event). non-scored bonus: Jon Wood also finishes ahead of all the official ROTY contenders, showing that a Yates motor still counts for something on the plate tracks. John
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Tom Duwe 27 April 2008 23:03:04 [ permanent link ]
	"John McCoy" <igopogo@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:Xns9A8D7D84F9247pogosupernews@216.168.3.30... Well, another plate race where it's hard to get any hints from qualifying thanks to the go-or-go-homers running significantly faster qualifying setups. However: The Win: Stewart shows the speed in qualifying was not a fluke, and gets the first win from pole we've had in a while. Uhhh...that'd be fine if'n you were picking Nemechek. -- Tom in Bristol ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =---
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Sg 27 April 2008 23:10:40 [ permanent link ]
	John McCoy wrote: Well, another plate race where it's hard to get any hints from qualifying thanks to the go-or-go-homers running significantly faster qualifying setups. However: The Win: Stewart shows the speed in qualifying was not a fluke, and gets the first win from pole we've had in a while. um, you spelled Nemechek wrong
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John McCoy 28 April 2008 03:09:15 [ permanent link ]
	"Tom Duwe" <tomd88SPAMLESS@bvunet.net> wrote in news:1209318851_797@isp.n: "John McCoy" <igopogo@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:Xns9A8D7D84F9247pogosupernews@216.168.3.30... Well, another plate race where it's hard to get any hints from qualifying thanks to the go-or-go-homers running significantly faster qualifying setups. However: The Win: Stewart shows the speed in qualifying was not a fluke, and gets the first win from pole we've had in a while. Uhhh...that'd be fine if'n you were picking Nemechek. Yeah, dunno how I forgot Stewart had slipped to outside pole Moot point, as it turns out...altho I'm gonna wait to score my RPG until the official finish order shows up on Monday, because I'm guessing they'll end up changing things around abit in the order of the guys in that last lap crash. John
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John McCoy 5 October 2008 05:32:15 [ permanent link ]
	Well, another round of random guesses, since neither practice nor qualifications have any bearing on how the race will go. The Win: Greg Biffle. Despite not having a great record at Dega, or plate tracks in general, he's just as likely as anyone to be near the front at the end. Best Chevy: Jeff Gordon. He's due for some good luck sometime. Best Dodge: Elliott Sadler. He runs well at the plate tracks, altho he has an alarming tendency to get caught up in someone else's mistakes and end up upside down. Best Toyota: Tony Stewart. Of all the Toyota guys, he's the one that's consistantly shown an understanding of the draft. Best Rookie: Aric Almirola beats out Regan Smith and Jon Wood. (good thing I'm not limiting myself to ROTY contenders). Story: Travis Kvapil and David Gilliland start at exact opposite ends of the field (1st & 41st, respectively). They finish not more than 12 positions apart. John
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