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Crusader 23 March 2005 02:08:45
 Caint verify this stat, but Mulhern is usually accurate on the majority of things.


Tuesday, March 22, 2005
NASCAR Notebook
Roush, Hendrick have dominated early portion of Nextel Cup season

. For a number of top drivers, this year's championship may already be out
of reach - if historical precedent means anything. If a team isn't in the
top-20 by this point of the season, it may be all over but the shouting,
judging by statistics over the last 30 years.
***Since 1975 only 28 drivers have worked their way back into the top 10 by
the 26-race mark after falling below 20th in the standings in the opening
month of the season.
That stat has to be worrisome for NASCAR top-dogs who are currently not in
the top-20, including Dale Earnhardt Jr. (26th), Michael Waltrip (27th),
Kasey Kahne (28th), Matt Kenseth (31st) and Bobby Labonte (37th).

--
Crusader


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Martin X. Moleski 23 March 2005 02:52:54 [ permanent link ]
 On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:08:45 CST, "Crusader" <cru32@comcast.net>­ wrote:
... That stat has to be worrisome for NASCAR top-dogs who are currently not in> the top-20, including Dale Earnhardt Jr. (26th), Michael Waltrip (27th),> Kasey Kahne (28th), Matt Kenseth (31st) and Bobby Labonte (37th).

OK. I'll RPG that Jr. and MK will do the best out of this bunch.

The Dodges seem not to be very competitive recently.

The Gibbs teams miss the presence of The Coach (?).

DEI seems to have lost its edge at restrictor plate races.

Marty

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-V- 25 March 2005 04:55:28 [ permanent link ]
 
"Crusader" <cru32@comcast.net>­ wrote in message
news:3abjaoF6b1gqvU­1@individual.net...>­ Caint verify this stat, but Mulhern is usually accurate on the majority of
things.>
Tuesday, March 22, 2005> NASCAR Notebook> Roush, Hendrick have dominated early portion of Nextel Cup season>
. For a number of top drivers, this year's championship may already
be out> of reach - if historical precedent means anything. If a team isn't
in the> top-20 by this point of the season, it may be all over but the
shouting,> judging by statistics over the last 30 years.> ***Since 1975 only 28 drivers have worked their way back into the top
10 by> the 26-race mark after falling below 20th in the standings in the
opening> month of the season.> That stat has to be worrisome for NASCAR top-dogs who are currently
not in> the top-20, including Dale Earnhardt Jr. (26th), Michael Waltrip
(27th),> Kasey Kahne (28th), Matt Kenseth (31st) and Bobby Labonte (37th).>
-- > Crusader>

I think that is pretty meaningless. 28 drivers have done it. There is a
good chance that one of those not in the top 20 now could do it again.
--
-v-
solamente ocho !

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Crusader 26 March 2005 01:24:30 [ permanent link ]
 "-v-" <vxmNOvxSPA-3M*@alt­ara.invalid> wrote in message
news:HjJ0e.949$Pc.4­22@tornado.tampabay.­rr.com...> "Crusader" <cru32@comcast.net>­ wrote in message> news:3abjaoF6b1gqvU­1@individual.net...>­ > Caint verify this stat, but Mulhern is usually accurate on the majority of things.> > Tuesday, March 22, 2005> > NASCAR Notebook> > For a number of top drivers, this year's championship may already> be out of reach - if historical precedent means anything. If a team isn't> in the top-20 by this point of the season, it may be all over but the> shouting, judging by statistics over the last 30 years.
Crusader>
I think that is pretty meaningless. 28 drivers have done it. There is a> good chance that one of those not in the top 20 now could do it again.> -- > -v-> solamente ocho !

U have an average chance of being correct, since the above stat states
1 driver a year on average comes from outside the T20 & finishes in the T10.>
I'm sure u see that even DEJ could be The One (on average) to overcome
his non-T20 position after 4 races. I think that's all that Mulhern was
pointing out, that even at this early date in 30 seasons, coming from
outside the T20 after 4 races & getting into the T10 by season's end
is a very rare occurrence.

Now that the season has been reduced to 26 races, it makes it even more
difficult to get into the final top 10.

-v- u know me well enuf that i don't often use other's stats
to back up my pov, but in this case, i think Mulhern may be preparing
Earnhardt fans for a terrible, shocking truth of not making The Chase'05.

I must admit skepticism of NA$CAR that they just might make a mid-season
rules change to include all the drivers within 499 points instead of 399.
CRU


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Martin X. Moleski 26 March 2005 03:40:52 [ permanent link ]
 cru wrote:
... I must admit skepticism of NA$CAR that they just might make a mid-season>rules change to include all the drivers within 499 points instead of 399.

I'll wager a fistful of RPG points that the won't change that rule mid-season,
even if Jr. gets that close.

Jr. is good for bidness, but not that good.

Marty

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Tommy Wood 26 March 2005 20:47:08 [ permanent link ]
 
Jr. is good for bidness, but not that good.>
Marty>

I wish I had some of that "not that good" for bidness. Every shot I see of
the grandstands shows half the fans wearing Jr. gear.

The new Jeff Gordon without the detractors, I'd say.


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Galloping.Moron 26 March 2005 21:49:54 [ permanent link ]
 
"Tommy Wood" <tgwood@nospam.com>­ wrote in message
news:114b4fq2q8gvk7­1@corp.supernews.com­...>
Jr. is good for bidness, but not that good.>>
Marty>>
I wish I had some of that "not that good" for bidness. Every shot I see > of the grandstands shows half the fans wearing Jr. gear.>
The new Jeff Gordon without the detractors, I'd say.>

There is only one Jeff Gordon.

Jeff Gordon has won Indy and the Daytona 500 seven times.

Nobody else comes close. Junior cannot even find his way around Indy
because it does not have 20 degree banking.

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Guest 6 April 2005 02:30:04 [ permanent link ]
 
Tommy Wood wrote:> >
Jr. is good for bidness, but not that good.> >
Marty> >
I wish I had some of that "not that good" for bidness. Every shot I
see of> the grandstands shows half the fans wearing Jr. gear.>
The new Jeff Gordon without the detractors, I'd say.

actually, AFAIK, there are a lot of DEJr detractors out there. it's
just that saying so in a virtual or an on-line forum gets people
figuratively and literally beat up.

I will say that the whole WWF aspect to NASCAR is fascinating to me.

Katharine

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WildWeasel 6 April 2005 22:30:02 [ permanent link ]
 
"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" wrote ...>
5. Hire yourself a first-class chaplain. I hear there is a worthy> candidate perched high atop the lofty and somewhat> lonely peak of Moral Victory Mountain. You're going to> need all the prayers you can git.>

A volunteer from the audience? Being obviously self-serving doesn't seem to be
an attribute viewed with admiration on MVM ... OTOH, maybe it's what MVM is all
about!

But I think your 5-step program is pretty close. Maybe get some first class,
*name* (not "not ready for prime-time" or "past their prime") talent locked up
too.



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Martin X. Moleski 6 April 2005 22:46:18 [ permanent link ]
 On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:57:04 CST, "Michael McGaha" <michael@ronindev.c­om> wrote:
Speaking of breaking away... I heard a rumor that some of the big teams may >be considering breaking away and making a new series. Has anyone else heard >this or is it just someone trying to stir up rumors?

Haven't heard anything--but I am not a good listener, so take everything
I say with a grain of salt. :o)

I've got some advice for the conspirators, if they exist1.

1. Make sure you've got control of the good tracks. Study what
the IRL did to CART.

2. If you strike at the King, you must kill him.

3. Prepare for difficulties. No good deed goes unpunished.
Everything that can go wrong will.

4. Get an iron-clad TV contract first.

5. Hire yourself a first-class chaplain. I hear there is a worthy
candidate perched high atop the lofty and somewhat
lonely peak of Moral Victory Mountain. You're going to
need all the prayers you can git.

Marty


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Michael McGaha 7 April 2005 01:50:05 [ permanent link ]
 
"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" <moleski@canisius.e­du> wrote in message
news:d8h851puigi16o­bk92el0c5uj5cv47i7sa­@4ax.com...> On 6 Apr 2005 18:30:02 GMT, "WildWeasel" <wweasel_24@HooYah.­com> wrote:>
Name brand owners, name brand sponsors, name brand crew chiefs,> and a name brand channel--you need the whole mix if you're really> going to compete against NASCAR.>
Marty>

if the 5 largest teams took their toys and played in their own sand box they
would have alot of pull... and don't ya think ESPN would be all giggly at
the chance to lock in the new series?

Michael

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WildWeasel 7 April 2005 03:00:02 [ permanent link ]
 
"Michael McGaha" wrote ...>
if the 5 largest teams took their toys and played in their own sand box they > would have alot of pull... and don't ya think ESPN would be all giggly at the > chance to lock in the new series?>

By "5 largest teams" do you mean:

Rousch (5 cars)
Hendrick (3 cars)
Yates (2 cars)
Penske (2 cars)
pick another (2 cars)

That's 14 cars or 1/3 of the sport. I'd say they would have a lot of pull.



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Martin X. Moleski 7 April 2005 06:37:43 [ permanent link ]
 On 6 Apr 2005 21:50:05 GMT, "Michael McGaha" <michael@ronindev.c­om> wrote:
if the 5 largest teams took their toys and played in their own sand box they >would have alot of pull ...

IF all 5 could work together, sure: Hendricks, Childress, Penske, Roush,
and DEI. They've got some serious money to play with, I suppose.
... and don't ya think ESPN would be all giggly at >the chance to lock in the new series?

I dunno. Not as excited as FOX / NBC in the last
round of bidding. A few hundred million probably
isn't going to cut it to make a new series competitive.

Marty

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Michael McGaha 7 April 2005 07:24:39 [ permanent link ]
 "Martin X. Moleski, SJ" <moleski@canisius.e­du> wrote in message
news:vh3951p7itijei­9fe0ukkj71o868jbisju­@4ax.com...> On 6 Apr 2005 21:50:05 GMT, "Michael McGaha" <michael@ronindev.c­om> wrote:>
if the 5 largest teams took their toys and played in their own sand box >>they>>would have alot of pull ...>
IF all 5 could work together, sure: Hendricks, Childress, Penske, Roush,> and DEI. They've got some serious money to play with, I suppose.

If I recall correctly, even in NASCAR Roush has been leading the curve in
innovation, especially safety. I could see him leading a crusade (pardon my
use of your handle there Cru)
... and don't ya think ESPN would be all giggly at>>the chance to lock in the new series?>
I dunno. Not as excited as FOX / NBC in the last> round of bidding. A few hundred million probably> isn't going to cut it to make a new series competitive.>

I've been working in marketing for quite a while. I can think of MANY ways
to get a lot of mileage out of a new series based on the big boys breaking
off of NASCAR. Especially if they played up the "back to the roots" idea.
News exposure would be tremendous.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying this is gonna happen. I just heard
someone say they'd heard a rumor, but I'd LOVE to be on the marketing team
for it :)­

Michael

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Martin X. Moleski 7 April 2005 17:41:56 [ permanent link ]
 On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 21:24:39 CST, "Michael McGaha" <michael@ronindev.c­om> wrote:
... I've been working in marketing for quite a while. I can think of MANY ways >to get a lot of mileage out of a new series based on the big boys breaking >off of NASCAR.

OK. Stories need conflict, and this is a conflict that could
create the opportunity to sell a lot of stories.
Especially if they played up the "back to the roots" idea. >News exposure would be tremendous.

For a little while. CART looked good at first. It's on life support
now, I think.

The folks who want NASCAR to go "back to the roots" are
an elite group, in my view. Elites, as a general rule, are
outnumbered by the unwashed mob. ;o)
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying this is gonna happen. I just heard >someone say they'd heard a rumor, but I'd LOVE to be on the marketing team >for it :)­

I've already volunteered to take over management of the Moral
Certitude Department.

Marty

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Crusader 8 April 2005 02:24:49 [ permanent link ]
 "Michael McGaha" <michael@ronindev.c­om> wrote in message
news:0R05e.2579$3z3­.723@newssvr12.news.­prodigy.com...> "Martin X. Moleski, SJ" <moleski@canisius.e­du> wrote in message> news:vh3951p7itijei­9fe0ukkj71o868jbisju­@4ax.com...> > On 6 Apr 2005 21:50:05 GMT, "Michael McGaha" <michael@ronindev.c­om> wrote:> >
if the 5 largest teams took their toys and played in their own sand box> >>they would have alot of pull ...> >
IF all 5 could work together, sure: Hendricks, Childress, Penske, Roush,> > and DEI. They've got some serious money to play with, I suppose.>
If I recall correctly, even in NASCAR Roush has been leading the curve in> innovation, especially safety. I could see him leading a crusade (pardon my> use of your handle there Cru)>
... and don't ya think ESPN would be all giggly at> >>the chance to lock in the new series?> >
I dunno. Not as excited as FOX / NBC in the last> > round of bidding. A few hundred million probably> > isn't going to cut it to make a new series competitive.> >
I've been working in marketing for quite a while. I can think of MANY ways> to get a lot of mileage out of a new series based on the big boys breaking> off of NASCAR. Especially if they played up the "back to the roots" idea.> News exposure would be tremendous.>
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying this is gonna happen. I just heard> someone say they'd heard a rumor, but I'd LOVE to be on the marketing team> for it :)­> Michael>
MM (both of u & an upside down WW):
I can't remember if i speculated out loud just after Mike Helton announced
a potential Death Penalty for cheating, i.e. taking a win away. I at least
was thinking about Top Owners breaking away. ESPN would welcome them with
open arms!

OBTW: Roush-5, 6 if u count WoodBros#21. Hendrick-4, maybe incl #01 & 10?
Gibbs-3, Ganassi-3, Childress-3, DEI-3 if counted #1. Those equal 24 teams!
So whose left? Yates-2, Penske-2, Evernham-2, Petty-2, & some Singles.
CRU


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