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Re: No More Provisionals
Crusader 6 February 2005 00:29:07
	"Julia" <julia.dmbangel2004@gmail.com> wrote in message news:aH9Nd.2$LM6.0@fe12.lga...> WildWeasel wrote:> > "Crusader" wrote ...> > As I understand the latest Qualifying Rules by NA$CAR for 2005:> >>There will no longer be a complicated & confusing system of> >>Provisional Starters.> >>Basically, the starting lineup will be decided by qualifying speed.> >> Conditional aspects:> >>For the 1st 5 races of '05, those Owner's cars in the TOP 35 of '04> >>must be entered in the event(duh), must enter by the deadline,> >>& must attempt to qualify. They will be guaranteed a starting spot.> >>>From race #6 on, the '05 Owner Pts Standings apply.> >> Example of how this 'probably' will work in '05:> >>DEJ & JG post the 44th & 45th fastest qualifying times.> >>Since JG's owner was higher in pts than DEJ's owner,> >>DEJ would start 43rd, JG 42nd, Shelmerdine 41st, Shepherd 40th, etc..> >> Even tho Mike Wallace in the #4 finished '04 in 36th,> >>& qualified 43rd, MW goes home cuz 5 cars qualified faster and> >>DEJ & JG being in the T35 BUMP Mike out of the starting lineup.> >> A Previous Champion Provisional is available to 1st-Terry Labonte,> >>2nd to Bill Elliott because they ran a race in '04. They must meet> >>the above conditions & one of them could use the PCP for 43rd.> >>IF any of the other Previous Champions were not in the T35 after> >>5 races in '05, then they would get the PCP over TL & BE.> >> Qualifying Rained out--Starting lineup determined by '05 Rulebook.> >>(Anybody got a copy?) ;)> >> 2004's Provisional Rules were impossible to follow. But there were> >>only 3 Full-time drivers sent home--Wimmer, Riggs, Petty.> >>At Race #6 at Mvl'05, Petty may be in danger of being sent home> >>if his Owner's Pts are not in the T35 & he isn't one of 42/43 fastest.> >> In '04, Mikey used 6 Provisionals, Schrader-7, Kirk-16, #198-15,> >>#50-13, Shep-13, #02-11, #09-9, #280-8, #4-7.> >> IMHO, this new qualifying system is the most fair to all teams.> >> I will have to read this 3 more times and then cut out and color paper cars to> > figure it out. But I'll get it!> > -- ww> > I'm not sure if I'm ever gonna get it... but if your gonna play with> paper cars then I wanna play too... ;)> The sad part is that I thought I understood this new system until I read> all the details in here ~ now I'm just as lost as I was when they were> trying to determine provisionals under the old rules. I'understand why> everyone seems to think that it's just as fair, maybe even better than> the old way ~ but I still don't like the part about guaranteeing anyone> anything.> Julia ~> I guarantee you'll like it. Cru
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BGNMan 6 February 2005 06:34:12 [ permanent link ]
	On PCP-the one qualification that caught my eye was that a PCP-eligible>driver must have raced at least once in the previous season. If RW or MM>don't run a race in '06 but get the itch to run a few in '07 they won't>be eligible for that PCP. Mark Martin could run all the races he wants in '06 and still wouldn't be eligible to take a PC provisional-he's never won a championship.
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Timothy 20 February 2005 16:06:12 [ permanent link ]
	Crusader wrote:> > Maybe all the above is accurate for Cup, but what about Mike Joy> stating that only 26 NBS teams are guaranteed a start in D300?> That was new news to me. CTS too a new qualification of only those> teams who ATTEMPTED all '04 races, NOT in '04 Top30!> Well, the official Nascar.com press release page says otherwise. Basically, the Top 30 teams are guaranteed spots in both series. That means that (assuming all Top 30 teams actually show up each week) there will be 13 spots up for grabs in each Busch race, and 6 in each Truck race. I am ignoring the Past Champions provisional here, which probably won't get used much. (Last year, Steve Grissom used it a couple of times on the Busch circuit, but this year he starts out with a Top 30 Busch ride.) Here's the URL for the official Nascar statement: http://www.nascar.com/2005/news/headlines/cup/01/13/bc.car.nascar.qualifying/index.html And here's the URL for the Nascar page on my website, which currently consists almost entirely of an article I wrote about the new Cup qualifying rules. http://www.timothyhorrigan.com/nascar.html
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