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24 on the pole
Gogordo 23 April 2005 03:43:14
	SWEET !!!
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Dan 23 April 2005 04:06:21 [ permanent link ]
	LOL, I'll bet he likes being on the "pole"... "Gogordo" <no.address@none.com> wrote in message news:n_fae.25414$Jg5.1220741@news20.bellglobal.com...> SWEET !!!>
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Frank Dwyer 23 April 2005 04:23:39 [ permanent link ]
	Gogordo wrote: SWEET !!! Gordon fans should be pleased... it means he has a chance to win.
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Mark C. 23 April 2005 05:35:48 [ permanent link ]
	"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message news:fAgae.53$QM1.27@news02.roc.ny...> Gogordo wrote:> SWEET !!!> Gordon fans should be pleased... it means he has a chance to win.> Of the 7 pole winners so far this year, their average finish is 14th. Race - Pole - Finish Daytona - Jarret - 15 Cal - Kyle Busch - 23 Vegas - Newman - 9 Atlanta - Newman - 14 Bristol - Sadler - 2 M'ville - Riggs - 21 Texas - Newman - 16 Gordon fans shouldn't be popping the corks just yet... Mark C.
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Frank Dwyer 23 April 2005 06:11:26 [ permanent link ]
	Mark C. wrote:> "Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message > news:fAgae.53$QM1.27@news02.roc.ny...> Gogordo wrote:>> SWEET !!!>> Gordon fans should be pleased... it means he has a chance to win.>> Of the 7 pole winners so far this year, their average finish is 14th.> Race - Pole - Finish> Daytona - Jarret - 15> Cal - Kyle Busch - 23> Vegas - Newman - 9> Atlanta - Newman - 14> Bristol - Sadler - 2> M'ville - Riggs - 21> Texas - Newman - 16> Gordon fans shouldn't be popping the corks just yet... I was just refering to his own trend. He wins more when he has to pass less.
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Dakota Siwash 23 April 2005 06:41:42 [ permanent link ]
	Blah Blah Blah> I was just refering to his own trend. He wins more when he has to pass > less.> Did he not come from three laps down a few races ago to win
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4-X-Champ 23 April 2005 07:26:31 [ permanent link ]
	"Dan" <I'm@home.now> wrote in message news:1kgae.16477$_t3.15515@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...> LOL, I'll bet he likes being on the "pole"...> Ryan Newman seems to gather "poles" lot more than most drivers.
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Frank Dwyer 23 April 2005 08:07:30 [ permanent link ]
	Dakota Siwash wrote:> Blah Blah Blah> I was just refering to his own trend. He wins more when he has to pass >>less.>> Did he not come from three laps down a few races ago to win Big difference between regaining 3 laps and passing 42 cars on the track 3 times. He did the former, not the latter. His trend relates to where he starts - 47 of his 71 wins have come when he's started in the top 5. He's a driver whose performance is related to the quality of the car off the truck. He'll do as well as his car - he doesn't "add horsepower".
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Gogordo 23 April 2005 10:00:35 [ permanent link ]
	IIRC, he got 2 laps back on his own, lucky dog is the lucky dog, nascar created that animal 71 wins, doesn't really matter how they came, they did #1 "Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message news:6Sjae.4396$hg.2799@news01.roc.ny...> Dakota Siwash wrote:>> Blah Blah Blah>> I was just refering to his own trend. He wins more when he has to pass >>>less.>>> Did he not come from three laps down a few races ago to win> Big difference between regaining 3 laps and passing 42 cars on the track 3 > times. He did the former, not the latter.> His trend relates to where he starts - 47 of his 71 wins have come when > he's started in the top 5. He's a driver whose performance is related to > the quality of the car off the truck. He'll do as well as his car - he > doesn't "add horsepower".>
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Michael E 23 April 2005 10:48:42 [ permanent link ]
	"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message news:fAgae.53$QM1.27@news02.roc.ny...> Gogordo wrote:> SWEET !!!> Gordon fans should be pleased... it means he has a chance to win.> Gordon haters should be pissed...every time he sets foot on the track, he has a chance to win. Michael E
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Mike Marlow 23 April 2005 16:45:54 [ permanent link ]
	"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message news:6Sjae.4396$hg.2799@news01.roc.ny...> Dakota Siwash wrote:> > Blah Blah Blah> > I was just refering to his own trend. He wins more when he has to pass> >>less.> >> Did he not come from three laps down a few races ago to win> Big difference between regaining 3 laps and passing 42 cars on the track> 3 times. He did the former, not the latter.> His trend relates to where he starts - 47 of his 71 wins have come when> he's started in the top 5. He's a driver whose performance is related to> the quality of the car off the truck.> Unfortunately, this is very true. Robbie Loomis has not developed the skill that Ray had for tuning the car all race long so that no matter how it came off the truck, they had a well tuned car by the end of the race. Equally, Ray has not been able to replicate his own success among his crew chiefs now under his racing teams. -- -Mike- mmarlow@alltel.net
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Joey Tribiani 23 April 2005 18:23:29 [ permanent link ]
	"Michael E" <racingfast@anycost.com> wrote in message news:A7mdnX9lpp3Dc_TfRVn-qA@comcast.com... > > Gordon fans should be pleased... it means he has a chance to win.> > Gordon haters should be pissed...every time he sets foot on the track, he> has a chance to win.> and as much as you Gordon fans don't realize is there are at least 25 or so other drivers that have a decent chance every time the flag drops....Its likely JG won't win tonight so you might want to keep your foot out of your mouth this week..(unlikely)
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Frank Dwyer 23 April 2005 18:58:05 [ permanent link ]
	Michael E wrote: "Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message> news:fAgae.53$QM1.27@news02.roc.ny...> Gogordo wrote:>> SWEET !!!>> Gordon fans should be pleased... it means he has a chance to win.>> Gordon haters should be pissed...every time he sets foot on the track, he> has a chance to win. I'd disagree. Barring "one of them racin' deals" and quality pit stops, he tends to finish where he starts. He has 52 poles, 17 of them resulted in a win. 28 of his wins have come from a front row start. Comparing that to the numbers of some other big names, it shows that he's much better at staying up front than he is at getting to the front. Traffic has always seemed to give him problems.
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Michael E 23 April 2005 19:06:05 [ permanent link ]
	"Joey Tribiani" <noway@home.com> wrote in message news:NTsae.15417$Z73.3177@lakeread04...> "Michael E" <racingfast@anycost.com> wrote in message> news:A7mdnX9lpp3Dc_TfRVn-qA@comcast.com...> > > Gordon fans should be pleased... it means he has a chance to win.> > > Gordon haters should be pissed...every time he sets foot on the track, has a chance to win.> > and as much as you Gordon fans don't realize is there are at least 25 or other drivers that have a decent chance every time the flag drops....Its> likely JG won't win tonight so you might want to keep your foot out of your> mouth this week..(unlikely)> Uh....yo mr ~all about accuracy~, did I say that Gordon was the only one who has a chance at any given race? No. I wrote that Gordon has a chance to win anytime he sets foot on the track, because he does. Now run along skippy, I'm not interested in prying you off of my leg again, & again for another "joey's interpretation of reality" train wreck of a thread. You can use all of the rehashed, ignorant, insults that you want, I won't be reading them anyway. Is "that" >CLEAR< ~enough~ @for@ ?you? Bwahaaaa. Michael E
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Gogordo 23 April 2005 19:31:12 [ permanent link ]
	any car that starts near the front has a better chance to win, dega, bristol, to name a couple where its really important, you gotta earn the front row "Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message news:1otae.4424$hg.1117@news01.roc.ny...> Michael E wrote:> "Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message>> news:fAgae.53$QM1.27@news02.roc.ny...>> Gogordo wrote:>>> SWEET !!!>>> Gordon fans should be pleased... it means he has a chance to win.>>> Gordon haters should be pissed...every time he sets foot on the track, he>> has a chance to win.> I'd disagree. Barring "one of them racin' deals" and quality pit stops, he > tends to finish where he starts. He has 52 poles, 17 of them resulted in a > win. 28 of his wins have come from a front row start.> Comparing that to the numbers of some other big names, it shows that he's > much better at staying up front than he is at getting to the front.> Traffic has always seemed to give him problems.>
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Frank Dwyer 23 April 2005 20:21:02 [ permanent link ]
	Gogordo wrote:> any car that starts near the front has a better chance to win, dega, > bristol, to name a couple where its really important, you gotta earn the > front row Depending on the driver, starting position might not make much of a difference. In Gordon's case, it makes a big difference. "Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message > news:1otae.4424$hg.1117@news01.roc.ny...> Michael E wrote:>> "Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message>>>news:fAgae.53$QM1.27@news02.roc.ny...>>> Gogordo wrote:>>>> SWEET !!!>>>> Gordon fans should be pleased... it means he has a chance to win.>>>> Gordon haters should be pissed...every time he sets foot on the track, he>>>has a chance to win.>> I'd disagree. Barring "one of them racin' deals" and quality pit stops, he >>tends to finish where he starts. He has 52 poles, 17 of them resulted in a >>win. 28 of his wins have come from a front row start.>>Comparing that to the numbers of some other big names, it shows that he's >>much better at staying up front than he is at getting to the front.>>Traffic has always seemed to give him problems.>>
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Gogordo 23 April 2005 20:25:05 [ permanent link ]
	works good for newman, doesn't it "Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message news:OBuae.87$K62.23@news02.roc.ny...> Gogordo wrote:>> any car that starts near the front has a better chance to win, dega, >> bristol, to name a couple where its really important, you gotta earn the >> front row> Depending on the driver, starting position might not make much of a > difference. In Gordon's case, it makes a big difference.> "Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message >> news:1otae.4424$hg.1117@news01.roc.ny...>> Michael E wrote:>>> "Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message>>>>news:fAgae.53$QM1.27@news02.roc.ny...>>>> Gogordo wrote:>>>>> SWEET !!!>>>>> Gordon fans should be pleased... it means he has a chance to win.>>>>> Gordon haters should be pissed...every time he sets foot on the track, >>>>he>>>>has a chance to win.>>> I'd disagree. Barring "one of them racin' deals" and quality pit stops, >>>he tends to finish where he starts. He has 52 poles, 17 of them resulted >>>in a win. 28 of his wins have come from a front row start.>>>Comparing that to the numbers of some other big names, it shows that he's >>>much better at staying up front than he is at getting to the front.>>>Traffic has always seemed to give him problems.>>>
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Joey Tribiani 23 April 2005 20:40:11 [ permanent link ]
	"Gogordo" <no.address@none.com> wrote in message news:5Ttae.27438$Jg5.1387541@news20.bellglobal.com...> any car that starts near the front has a better chance to win, dega,> bristol, to name a couple where its really important, you gotta earn the> front row> at dega you can start in the rear and be leading the race by the time the first or second lap are "on the books"....
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Frank Dwyer 23 April 2005 21:07:24 [ permanent link ]
	Gogordo wrote: works good for newman, doesn't it Yup. Gordon isn't the only one, just the most famous. It's balanced out by drivers like Kenseth though. "Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message > news:OBuae.87$K62.23@news02.roc.ny...> Gogordo wrote:>> any car that starts near the front has a better chance to win, dega, >>>bristol, to name a couple where its really important, you gotta earn the >>>front row>> Depending on the driver, starting position might not make much of a >>difference. In Gordon's case, it makes a big difference.>> "Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message >>>news:1otae.4424$hg.1117@news01.roc.ny...>>> Michael E wrote:>>>> "Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message>>>>>news:fAgae.53$QM1.27@news02.roc.ny...>>>>> Gogordo wrote:>>>>>> SWEET !!!>>>>>> Gordon fans should be pleased... it means he has a chance to win.>>>>>> Gordon haters should be pissed...every time he sets foot on the track, >>>>>he>>>>>has a chance to win.>>>> I'd disagree. Barring "one of them racin' deals" and quality pit stops, >>>>he tends to finish where he starts. He has 52 poles, 17 of them resulted >>>>in a win. 28 of his wins have come from a front row start.>>>>Comparing that to the numbers of some other big names, it shows that he's >>>>much better at staying up front than he is at getting to the front.>>>>Traffic has always seemed to give him problems.>>>>
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Gogordo 23 April 2005 21:48:41 [ permanent link ]
	unless you get caught in the big one from bad qualifying, seen it happen many times 43rd to 1st in 1 or 2 laps, I would like to see that "Joey Tribiani" <noway@home.com> wrote in message news:XTuae.15433$Z73.9967@lakeread04...> "Gogordo" <no.address@none.com> wrote in message> news:5Ttae.27438$Jg5.1387541@news20.bellglobal.com...>> any car that starts near the front has a better chance to win, dega,>> bristol, to name a couple where its really important, you gotta earn the>> front row>> at dega you can start in the rear and be leading the race by the time the> first or second lap are "on the books"....>
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Gogordo 24 April 2005 00:42:43 [ permanent link ]
	No driver has won from the pole in the last 17 races "Gogordo" <no.address@none.com> wrote in message news:%Tvae.27552$Jg5.1426921@news20.bellglobal.com...> unless you get caught in the big one from bad qualifying, seen it happen > many times> 43rd to 1st in 1 or 2 laps, I would like to see that> "Joey Tribiani" <noway@home.com> wrote in message > news:XTuae.15433$Z73.9967@lakeread04...>> "Gogordo" <no.address@none.com> wrote in message>> news:5Ttae.27438$Jg5.1387541@news20.bellglobal.com...>>> any car that starts near the front has a better chance to win, dega,>>> bristol, to name a couple where its really important, you gotta earn the>>> front row>>> at dega you can start in the rear and be leading the race by the time the>> first or second lap are "on the books"....>>
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