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Wha't with the empty seats?
Bob L 20 March 2005 23:49:23
	Atlanta doesn't sell out?
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NASCARWife 20 March 2005 23:58:27 [ permanent link ]
	Not very often. My own opinion but I think that the fall race at Atlanta will end up in Vegas because of this very reason.
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Biffan 21 March 2005 00:08:31 [ permanent link ]
	And to think this used to be the season-ender...
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Douglas BISHOP 21 March 2005 00:14:55 [ permanent link ]
	"Bob L" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:K62dna4tQokrTqDfRVn-hQ@comcast.com...> Atlanta doesn't sell out?> Perhaps is at least one of their races was in the "summer"... One event in March and one in October....neither conducive to fans traveling from great distances with the family. Michigan which is more typically boring has both dates in the summer and pretty much sells out both....and keeps adding seats.
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Alan J. Claffie 21 March 2005 00:37:59 [ permanent link ]
	"Biffan" <kpchick@aol.com> wrote in message news:1111349311.296900.138630@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...> And to think this used to be the season-ender... Talk about a short season!
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ThreeWide 21 March 2005 02:18:24 [ permanent link ]
	People who really enjoy racing would find Atlanta one of the best tickets besides Bristol. Fast, multi groove racing that has great finishes like today. The weather in March has always been a deterrant to selling tickets.
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ThreeWide 21 March 2005 02:36:51 [ permanent link ]
	Also....a lot of fans left in the middle of the race because the 8 car sucked. I'm not kidding, the crowd in Atlanta is like that. If the 8 ever had a bad day at Talladega, you'd see the same thing happen.
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Julia 21 March 2005 02:57:06 [ permanent link ]
	On 2005-03-20 17:18:24 -0500, "ThreeWide" <jbrooksga@gmail.com> said: People who really enjoy racing would find Atlanta one of the best> tickets besides Bristol. Fast, multi groove racing that has great> finishes like today.> The weather in March has always been a deterrant to selling tickets. honestly... a little drop in the temperature wouldn't keep a real race fan from the track. -- ..."your head can't rule your heart ~ a feeling is so much stronger than a thought"... $1 to Bono (U2) from "Vertigo"
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J Jones 21 March 2005 04:49:19 [ permanent link ]
	"Bob L" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:K62dna4tQokrTqDfRVn-hQ@comcast.com...> Atlanta doesn't sell out?> The seats that are low do not sell very well because the view is terrible. You'll see a lot of empty seats down low, but they still had a huge crowd on attendance. Jeff
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Duff Man 21 March 2005 06:30:50 [ permanent link ]
	"J Jones" <nfw@spammers.net> wrote in message news:GMo%d.38500$6g7.26646@bignews1.bellsouth.net...> "Bob L" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message> news:K62dna4tQokrTqDfRVn-hQ@comcast.com...> > Atlanta doesn't sell out?> > The seats that are low do not sell very well because the view is terrible.> You'll see a lot of empty seats down low, but they still had a huge crowd attendance.> Jeff> I didn't think that they sold some of the low seats at all because of the IRL incident at Charlotte.
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Viper GTS 21 March 2005 06:38:54 [ permanent link ]
	Bob L wrote:> Atlanta doesn't sell out? I suspect there were about 110,000 there today. The stands were about 90% full.
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Viper GTS 21 March 2005 06:43:52 [ permanent link ]
	ThreeWide wrote:> The weather in March has always been a deterrant to selling tickets. It was in the low 70's and I got a bit of a sunburn. The weather was beautiful; though a bit on the cloudy side.
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Viper GTS 21 March 2005 22:01:11 [ permanent link ]
	Farvus Maximus wrote:> they don't draw 110,000 in a year. I am sure you meant per race, not per year; since they race twice. The seating capacity is over 125,000 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Motor_Speedway ). I would say that the place was 90% full; which puts it at over 110,000 fans yesterday. I searched online, but for some reason NASCAR is not posting the attendance numbers anywhere. I checked NASCAR, Jayski, and racing-reference. Humpy was complaining about a 10% drop-off at Lowes; but made no mention of Atlanta; so I don't think Atlanta is a problem. Also, this year was a record purse ($4.75 million), which leads me to believe they (NASCAR/France/Helton)are happy with the numbers. Like I said though - I was there, and the place was packed for the most part. There were no empty seats to be seen in Weaver; and looking across the track it looked packed to the gills.
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Daniel 21 March 2005 22:05:37 [ permanent link ]
	NASCARWife wrote:> Not very often. My own opinion but I think that the fall race at> Atlanta will end up in Vegas because of this very reason. Sad really, considering that neither California or Vegas sold out, and empty seats were obvious on TV. And to think that NASCAR took Rockingham off the schedule for the same reason. Guess the whole west coast experiment has been a rousing success.
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Steveo 22 March 2005 05:49:13 [ permanent link ]
	"Viper GTS" <ViperGTS@Dodge.org> wrote:> Farvus Maximus wrote:> > they don't draw 110,000 in a year.> I am sure you meant per race, not per year; since they race twice. The> seating capacity is over 125,000 (> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Motor_Speedway ). I would say that> the place was 90% full; which puts it at over 110,000 fans yesterday.> I searched online, but for some reason NASCAR is not posting the> attendance numbers anywhere. I checked NASCAR, Jayski, and> racing-reference.> Humpy was complaining about a 10% drop-off at Lowes; but made no mention> of Atlanta; so I don't think Atlanta is a problem. Also, this year was> a record purse ($4.75 million), which leads me to believe they> (NASCAR/France/Helton)are happy with the numbers. Like I said though -> I was there, and the place was packed for the most part. There were no> empty seats to be seen in Weaver; and looking across the track it looked> packed to the gills.> Bristol with 160k will really blow your hair back.
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Jstonge123 22 March 2005 17:55:12 [ permanent link ]
	Thanks to the big 3 being down the road from MIS.
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Tom Duwe 23 March 2005 16:53:30 [ permanent link ]
	"J Jones" <nfw@spammers.net> wrote in message news:GMo%d.38500$6g7.26646@bignews1.bellsouth.net...> "Bob L" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:K62dna4tQokrTqDfRVn-hQ@comcast.com...>> Atlanta doesn't sell out?>> The seats that are low do not sell very well because the view is terrible. > You'll see a lot of empty seats down low, but they still had a huge crowd on > attendance.> Jeff ...and that's where all the chicken bones end up! ;-> Tom in Bristol ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----
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Tiger 23 March 2005 18:33:55 [ permanent link ]
	Bob L wrote: Atlanta doesn't sell out? > Folks are watching basketball......
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Douglas BISHOP 31 March 2005 02:53:48 [ permanent link ]
	"Viper GTS" <ViperGTS@Dodge.org> wrote in message news:Lsq%d.41938$Q83.29289@bignews5.bellsouth.net...> ThreeWide wrote:> > The weather in March has always been a deterrant to selling tickets.> It was in the low 70's and I got a bit of a sunburn. The weather was> beautiful; though a bit on the cloudy side.> But Skool ain't out in March....or November for that matter. AMS got screwed on both dates.
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Douglas BISHOP 31 March 2005 02:56:42 [ permanent link ]
	"Steveo" <moparholic@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:20050321204913.782$ou@newsreader.com...> "Viper GTS" <ViperGTS@Dodge.org> wrote:> > Farvus Maximus wrote:> > > they don't draw 110,000 in a year.> > I am sure you meant per race, not per year; since they race twice. seating capacity is over 125,000 (> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Motor_Speedway ). I would say that> > the place was 90% full; which puts it at over 110,000 fans yesterday.> > I searched online, but for some reason NASCAR is not posting the> > attendance numbers anywhere. I checked NASCAR, Jayski, and> > racing-reference.> > Humpy was complaining about a 10% drop-off at Lowes; but made no mention> > of Atlanta; so I don't think Atlanta is a problem. Also, this year was> > a record purse ($4.75 million), which leads me to believe they> > (NASCAR/France/Helton)are happy with the numbers. Like I said though -> > I was there, and the place was packed for the most part. There were no> > empty seats to be seen in Weaver; and looking across the track it looked> > packed to the gills.> > Bristol with 160k will really blow your hair back.> If they could put another 100,000 seats at Bristol....and handle the traffic and parking they could still sell out both dates.....school being in or not...any hillbilly would yank their kid out of school for a few days for a trip to BMS.
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Steveo 31 March 2005 03:18:19 [ permanent link ]
	"Douglas BISHOP" <SamDrucker@Hootersville.org> wrote:> "Steveo" <moparholic@hotmail.com> wrote in message> news:20050321204913.782$ou@newsreader.com...> > "Viper GTS" <ViperGTS@Dodge.org> wrote:> > > Farvus Maximus wrote:> > > > they don't draw 110,000 in a year.> > > I am sure you meant per race, not per year; since they race twice.> The> > > seating capacity is over 125,000 (> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Motor_Speedway ). I would say> that> > > the place was 90% full; which puts it at over 110,000 fans> > > yesterday. I searched online, but for some reason NASCAR is not> > > posting the attendance numbers anywhere. I checked NASCAR, Jayski,> > > and racing-reference.> > > Humpy was complaining about a 10% drop-off at Lowes; but made no> mention> > > of Atlanta; so I don't think Atlanta is a problem. Also, this year> > > was a record purse ($4.75 million), which leads me to believe they> > > (NASCAR/France/Helton)are happy with the numbers. Like I said> > > though - I was there, and the place was packed for the most part.> > > There were no empty seats to be seen in Weaver; and looking across> > > the track it> looked> > > packed to the gills.> > > Bristol with 160k will really blow your hair back.> > If they could put another 100,000 seats at Bristol....and handle the> traffic and parking they could still sell out both dates.....school being> in or not...any hillbilly would yank their kid out of school for a few> days for a trip to BMS.> That one wouldn't even require a note from your parents, the teachers may be in attendance too!
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Always 5:00 Here 31 March 2005 12:02:32 [ permanent link ]
	"Douglas BISHOP" <SamDrucker@Hootersville.org> wrote in message news:K8G2e.16327$DW.4931@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...> "Steveo" <moparholic@hotmail.com> wrote in message> news:20050321204913.782$ou@newsreader.com...>> "Viper GTS" <ViperGTS@Dodge.org> wrote:>> > Farvus Maximus wrote:>> > > they don't draw 110,000 in a year.>> > I am sure you meant per race, not per year; since they race twice.> The>> > seating capacity is over 125,000 (>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Motor_Speedway ). I would say> that>> > the place was 90% full; which puts it at over 110,000 fans yesterday.>> > I searched online, but for some reason NASCAR is not posting the>> > attendance numbers anywhere. I checked NASCAR, Jayski, and>> > racing-reference.>> > Humpy was complaining about a 10% drop-off at Lowes; but made no> mention>> > of Atlanta; so I don't think Atlanta is a problem. Also, this year was>> > a record purse ($4.75 million), which leads me to believe they>> > (NASCAR/France/Helton)are happy with the numbers. Like I said though ->> > I was there, and the place was packed for the most part. There were no>> > empty seats to be seen in Weaver; and looking across the track it> looked>> > packed to the gills.>> > Bristol with 160k will really blow your hair back.>> If they could put another 100,000 seats at Bristol....and handle the traffic> and parking they could still sell out both dates.....school being in or> not...any hillbilly would yank their kid out of school for a few days for a> trip to BMS.> Sure they can add seats at Bristol - just put them in the infield. -- "Jayson Blair must be writing your material, because that is absolute fiction."
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Bill Jonesi 31 March 2005 12:58:36 [ permanent link ]
	Douglas BISHOP wrote:> "Duff Man" <Titan22381@gmail.com> wrote in message> news:yIidnTpe_epCrKPfRVn-tA@comcast.com...> > "J Jones" <nfw@spammers.net> wrote in message> > news:GMo%d.38500$6g7.26646@bignews1.bellsouth.net...> > > "Bob L" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message> > > news:K62dna4tQokrTqDfRVn-hQ@comcast.com...> > > > Atlanta doesn't sell out?> > > > The seats that are low do not sell very well because the view is> terrible.> > > You'll see a lot of empty seats down low, but they still had a huge> crowd> > on> > > attendance.> > > Jeff> > > I didn't think that they sold some of the low seats at all because of the> > IRL incident at Charlotte.> > What's an IRL incident got to do with seats at a Cup race? If there's one thing that all proracing/spectator organizations take very seriously, it's a race car and/or car parts getting into the spectator areas. Nascar's worst nightmare is something like a repete of the '55 LeMans accident.
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Somebody 31 March 2005 17:00:05 [ permanent link ]
	"Always 5:00 Here" <tjm120277@frontiernet.net> wrote in message news:s8O2e.97$B_4.15@news02.roc.ny...> "Douglas BISHOP" <SamDrucker@Hootersville.org> wrote in message> news:K8G2e.16327$DW.4931@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...> > "Steveo" <moparholic@hotmail.com> wrote in message> > news:20050321204913.782$ou@newsreader.com...> >> "Viper GTS" <ViperGTS@Dodge.org> wrote:> >> > Farvus Maximus wrote:> >> > > they don't draw 110,000 in a year.> >> > I am sure you meant per race, not per year; since they race twice.> > The> >> > seating capacity is over 125,000 (> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Motor_Speedway ). I would say> > that> >> > the place was 90% full; which puts it at over 110,000 fans yesterday.> >> > I searched online, but for some reason NASCAR is not posting the> >> > attendance numbers anywhere. I checked NASCAR, Jayski, and> >> > racing-reference.> >> > Humpy was complaining about a 10% drop-off at Lowes; but made no> > mention> >> > of Atlanta; so I don't think Atlanta is a problem. Also, this year a record purse ($4.75 million), which leads me to believe they> >> > (NASCAR/France/Helton)are happy with the numbers. Like I said though -> >> > I was there, and the place was packed for the most part. There were empty seats to be seen in Weaver; and looking across the track it> > looked> >> > packed to the gills.> >> > Bristol with 160k will really blow your hair back.> >> If they could put another 100,000 seats at Bristol....and handle the traffic> > and parking they could still sell out both dates.....school being in or> > not...any hillbilly would yank their kid out of school for a few days for a> > trip to BMS.> > Sure they can add seats at Bristol - just put them in the infield. They have them in a bridge. Next I think will be hanging from swings over the corners. -Russ.
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Douglas BISHOP 31 March 2005 21:03:36 [ permanent link ]
	"Somebody" <somebody@nospam.russdoucet.com> wrote in message news:uwS2e.96181$vO1.592207@nnrp1.uunet.ca...> "Always 5:00 Here" <tjm120277@frontiernet.net> wrote in message> news:s8O2e.97$B_4.15@news02.roc.ny...> > "Douglas BISHOP" <SamDrucker@Hootersville.org> wrote in message> > news:K8G2e.16327$DW.4931@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...> > > "Steveo" <moparholic@hotmail.com> wrote in message> > > news:20050321204913.782$ou@newsreader.com...> > >> "Viper GTS" <ViperGTS@Dodge.org> wrote:> > >> > Farvus Maximus wrote:> > >> > > they don't draw 110,000 in a year.> > >> > I am sure you meant per race, not per year; since they race twice.> > > The> > >> > seating capacity is over 125,000 (> > >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Motor_Speedway ). I would that> > >> > the place was 90% full; which puts it at over 110,000 fans> yesterday.> > >> > I searched online, but for some reason NASCAR is not posting the> > >> > attendance numbers anywhere. I checked NASCAR, Jayski, and> > >> > racing-reference.> > >> > Humpy was complaining about a 10% drop-off at Lowes; but made no> > > mention> > >> > of Atlanta; so I don't think Atlanta is a problem. Also, this year> was> > >> > a record purse ($4.75 million), which leads me to believe they> > >> > (NASCAR/France/Helton)are happy with the numbers. Like I said> though -> > >> > I was there, and the place was packed for the most part. There were> no> > >> > empty seats to be seen in Weaver; and looking across the track it> > > looked> > >> > packed to the gills.> > >> > Bristol with 160k will really blow your hair back.> > >> If they could put another 100,000 seats at Bristol....and handle the> traffic> > > and parking they could still sell out both dates.....school being in not...any hillbilly would yank their kid out of school for a few days> for a> > > trip to BMS.> > > Sure they can add seats at Bristol - just put them in the infield.> They have them in a bridge. Next I think will be hanging from swings over> the corners.> -Russ.> Unless there is something new at Bristol this year I think you're referring to Dover with it's luxury seats in the pedestrian bridge....there is no bridge at Bristol.
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Somebody 31 March 2005 22:24:10 [ permanent link ]
	"Douglas BISHOP" <SamDrucker@Hootersville.org> wrote in message news:I3W2e.19883$1h.1792@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...> "Somebody" <somebody@nospam.russdoucet.com> wrote in message> news:uwS2e.96181$vO1.592207@nnrp1.uunet.ca...> > "Always 5:00 Here" <tjm120277@frontiernet.net> wrote in message> > news:s8O2e.97$B_4.15@news02.roc.ny...> > > "Douglas BISHOP" <SamDrucker@Hootersville.org> wrote in message> > > news:K8G2e.16327$DW.4931@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...> > > > "Steveo" <moparholic@hotmail.com> wrote in message> > > > news:20050321204913.782$ou@newsreader.com...> > > >> "Viper GTS" <ViperGTS@Dodge.org> wrote:> > > >> > Farvus Maximus wrote:> > > >> > > they don't draw 110,000 in a year.> > > >> > I am sure you meant per race, not per year; since they race twice.> > > > The> > > >> > seating capacity is over 125,000 (> > > >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Motor_Speedway ). I would> say> > > > that> > > >> > the place was 90% full; which puts it at over 110,000 fans> > yesterday.> > > >> > I searched online, but for some reason NASCAR is not posting the> > > >> > attendance numbers anywhere. I checked NASCAR, Jayski, and> > > >> > racing-reference.> > > >> > Humpy was complaining about a 10% drop-off at Lowes; but made no> > > > mention> > > >> > of Atlanta; so I don't think Atlanta is a problem. Also, this> year> > was> > > >> > a record purse ($4.75 million), which leads me to believe they> > > >> > (NASCAR/France/Helton)are happy with the numbers. Like I said> > though -> > > >> > I was there, and the place was packed for the most part. There> were> > no> > > >> > empty seats to be seen in Weaver; and looking across the track looked> > > >> > packed to the gills.> > > >> > Bristol with 160k will really blow your hair back.> > > >> If they could put another 100,000 seats at Bristol....and handle the> > traffic> > > > and parking they could still sell out both dates.....school being in> or> > > > not...any hillbilly would yank their kid out of school for a few days> > for a> > > > trip to BMS.> > > > Sure they can add seats at Bristol - just put them in the infield.> > They have them in a bridge. Next I think will be hanging from swings over> > the corners.> > -Russ.> > Unless there is something new at Bristol this year I think you're referring> to Dover with it's luxury seats in the pedestrian bridge....there is no> bridge at Bristol. Oops, my bad on that one. It was indeed Dover I was thinking about. -Russ.
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Hobbes 4 April 2005 23:23:22 [ permanent link ]
	Douglas BISHOP wrote:> But Skool ain't out in March....or November for that matter. AMS got> screwed on both dates. Georgia does not have skool on Saturday and Sunday; irrespective of time of year.
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Douglas BISHOP 6 April 2005 02:20:59 [ permanent link ]
	"Hobbes" <Hobbes@CalvinBall.org> wrote in message news:1112642600.bbeaf6dee3173b5b78a1cb0f695efebf@teranews...> Douglas BISHOP wrote:> > But Skool ain't out in March....or November for that matter. AMS got> > screwed on both dates.> Georgia does not have skool on Saturday and Sunday; irrespective of time year.> They may not even have it during the week but folks from outta stayte gotta travil along waze an they got them troount ossifers up hear in yankee wurld.
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