Midrace Standings - #8 ahead of #18, #21?

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Midrace Standings - #8 ahead of #18, #21?
Colin Campbell 14 March 2005 23:25:48
	Why were the #8 and #25 shown ahead of Labonte and Rudd before those two cars returned to the track later in the race? I was sure I saw Bobby Labonte and Ricky Rudd drive away from the wreck site and onto pit road. Presumably, they made another lap, or were at least "ahead" of Earnhardt and Vickers. Maybe there's some scoring technicality I don't understand....
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Julia 15 March 2005 00:11:21 [ permanent link ]
	On 2005-03-14 14:25:48 -0500, Colin Campbell <cmcampb@adelphia.net> said: Why were the #8 and #25 shown ahead of Labonte and Rudd before those > two cars returned to the track later in the race?> I was sure I saw Bobby Labonte and Ricky Rudd drive away from the wreck > site and onto pit road. Presumably, they made another lap, or were at > least "ahead" of Earnhardt and Vickers.> Maybe there's some scoring technicality I don't understand.... well, I dunno for sure, but my guess would be that they froze the field while Labonte and Rudd were still behind the wreck ~ so they would be scored that way. -- ..."your head can't rule your heart ~ a feeling is so much stronger than a thought"... $1 to Bono (U2) from "Vertigo"
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Philip Bailey 15 March 2005 01:51:53 [ permanent link ]
	On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:11:21 -0500, Julia <julia.dmbangel2004@gmail.com> wrote: On 2005-03-14 14:25:48 -0500, Colin Campbell <cmcampb@adelphia.net> said:> Why were the #8 and #25 shown ahead of Labonte and Rudd before those >> two cars returned to the track later in the race?>> I was sure I saw Bobby Labonte and Ricky Rudd drive away from the wreck >> site and onto pit road. Presumably, they made another lap, or were at >> least "ahead" of Earnhardt and Vickers.>> Maybe there's some scoring technicality I don't understand....> well, I dunno for sure, but my guess would be that they froze the field >while Labonte and Rudd were still behind the wreck ~ so they would be >scored that way. We were talking about this a bit yesterday... that would explain why the 8 was scored ahead of 18 and 21, but why was he scored in front of Vickers??
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Duff Man 15 March 2005 03:40:36 [ permanent link ]
	"Philip Bailey" <philip_bailey2001DONT@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message news:rn1c31lbio97ol1udv2p8i3jpcco070kvr@4ax.com...> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:11:21 -0500, Julia> <julia.dmbangel2004@gmail.com> wrote:> On 2005-03-14 14:25:48 -0500, Colin Campbell <cmcampb@adelphia.net> said:> > Why were the #8 and #25 shown ahead of Labonte and Rudd before those> >> two cars returned to the track later in the race?> >> I was sure I saw Bobby Labonte and Ricky Rudd drive away from the wreck> >> site and onto pit road. Presumably, they made another lap, or were at> >> least "ahead" of Earnhardt and Vickers.> >> Maybe there's some scoring technicality I don't understand....> > well, I dunno for sure, but my guess would be that they froze the field> >while Labonte and Rudd were still behind the wreck ~ so they would be> >scored that way.> We were talking about this a bit yesterday... that would explain why> the 8 was scored ahead of 18 and 21, but why was he scored in front of> Vickers??> I was wondering that too... Does it have to do with which car rolls farther?
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Julia 15 March 2005 04:15:18 [ permanent link ]
	On 2005-03-14 18:40:36 -0500, "Duff Man" <Titan22381@gmail.com> said: "Philip Bailey" <philip_bailey2001DONT@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message> news:rn1c31lbio97ol1udv2p8i3jpcco070kvr@4ax.com...>> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:11:21 -0500, Julia>> <julia.dmbangel2004@gmail.com> wrote:>> On 2005-03-14 14:25:48 -0500, Colin Campbell <cmcampb@adelphia.net> said:>>> Why were the #8 and #25 shown ahead of Labonte and Rudd before those>>>> two cars returned to the track later in the race?>>>> I was sure I saw Bobby Labonte and Ricky Rudd drive away from the wreck>>>> site and onto pit road. Presumably, they made another lap, or were at>>>> least "ahead" of Earnhardt and Vickers.>>>> Maybe there's some scoring technicality I don't understand....>>> well, I dunno for sure, but my guess would be that they froze the field>>> while Labonte and Rudd were still behind the wreck ~ so they would be>>> scored that way.>> We were talking about this a bit yesterday... that would explain why>> the 8 was scored ahead of 18 and 21, but why was he scored in front of>> Vickers??>> I was wondering that too...> Does it have to do with which car rolls farther? I think that it used to... I think it's now done solely on the position when the caution flag comes out.... maybe they determined that by the time they threw the flag Jr had pushed his way past Vickers on the track. -- ..."your head can't rule your heart ~ a feeling is so much stronger than a thought"... $1 to Bono (U2) from "Vertigo"
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The original BP 15 March 2005 09:55:45 [ permanent link ]
	Colin Campbell wrote: Maybe there's some scoring technicality I don't understand.... Scoring is done by how many laps you complete. If two drivers are tied in how many laps they completed, then they are ranked by the order in which they completed that last lap. If you drive into the garage before you cross the S/F line, you are scored based upon your position the last time you completed a lap. bp
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Rexxx 15 March 2005 10:08:03 [ permanent link ]
	The last scoring loop they pass determines where they score... Apparently, Vickers hadn't overtaken Jr at the previous loop... Was a heated topic on Wide Open tonight... "Julia" <julia.dmbangel2004@gmail.com> wrote in message news:2005031419151816807%juliadmbangel2004@gmailcom...> On 2005-03-14 18:40:36 -0500, "Duff Man" <Titan22381@gmail.com> said:> "Philip Bailey" <philip_bailey2001DONT@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message>> news:rn1c31lbio97ol1udv2p8i3jpcco070kvr@4ax.com...>>> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:11:21 -0500, Julia>>> <julia.dmbangel2004@gmail.com> wrote:>>> On 2005-03-14 14:25:48 -0500, Colin Campbell <cmcampb@adelphia.net> >>>> said:>>>> Why were the #8 and #25 shown ahead of Labonte and Rudd before those>>>>> two cars returned to the track later in the race?>>>>> I was sure I saw Bobby Labonte and Ricky Rudd drive away from the >>>>> wreck>>>>> site and onto pit road. Presumably, they made another lap, or were at>>>>> least "ahead" of Earnhardt and Vickers.>>>>> Maybe there's some scoring technicality I don't understand....>>>> well, I dunno for sure, but my guess would be that they froze the field>>>> while Labonte and Rudd were still behind the wreck ~ so they would be>>>> scored that way.>>> We were talking about this a bit yesterday... that would explain why>>> the 8 was scored ahead of 18 and 21, but why was he scored in front of>>> Vickers??>>> I was wondering that too...>> Does it have to do with which car rolls farther?> I think that it used to... I think it's now done solely on the position > when the caution flag comes out.... maybe they determined that by the time > they threw the flag Jr had pushed his way past Vickers on the track.> -- > ..."your head can't rule your heart ~ a feeling is so much stronger than a > thought"... $1 to Bono (U2) from "Vertigo">
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Julia 16 March 2005 00:42:00 [ permanent link ]
	On 2005-03-15 00:55:45 -0500, "The original BP" <posner889@yahoo.com> said: Colin Campbell wrote:> Maybe there's some scoring technicality I don't understand....> Scoring is done by how many laps you complete. If two drivers are tied> in how many laps they completed, then they are ranked by the order in> which they completed that last lap.> If you drive into the garage before you cross the S/F line, you are> scored based upon your position the last time you completed a lap.> bp I don't think it's done that way anymore Barry.... I think it's based soley on their position at the time of the caution as determined by the scoring loops on the track... the last complete lap isn't a factor anymore. -- ..."your head can't rule your heart ~ a feeling is so much stronger than a thought"... $1 to Bono (U2) from "Vertigo"
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1RaceFan 16 March 2005 08:05:17 [ permanent link ]
	At present all scoring of those cars involved in an accident goes back to the last scored lap so when they passed the start finish line before the wreck, the 8 was in front of the 18,21, and 25. The 18 and the 21 drove away and went to the garage for repairs but in doing so did not pass the start finish line again until they came back out thus the 8 remained ahead of them until they crossed the s/f line.
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Midrace Standings - #8 ahead of #18, #21?

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