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new intimidator coming to nascar in 2006?

Guest 26 March 2005 02:44:14
 saw paul tracy talking on speed about his future, with childress and
nascar. could he be the future driver of the 3?
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Mike Marlow 12 March 2005 03:12:38 [ permanent link ]
 
<big-spud@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:1i7431dmjnu7eb­01bg5837rn96q39pkrup­@4ax.com...> saw paul tracy talking on speed about his future, with childress and> nascar. could he be the future driver of the 3?

...or of another number?

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Patrick 12 March 2005 04:11:28 [ permanent link ]
 
<big-spud@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:1i7431dmjnu7eb­01bg5837rn96q39pkrup­@4ax.com...> saw paul tracy talking on speed about his future, with childress and> nascar. could he be the future driver of the 3?

Rather un-American don't you think?


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Viper GTS 12 March 2005 04:15:35 [ permanent link ]
 <big-spud@shaw.ca> wrote in message ...> saw paul tracy talking on speed about his future, with childress and> nascar. could he be the future driver of the 3?

Nope. Childress (2004 on NASCAR on XM) said the only time he would use the
Stylized #3 or #33 was with Kerry Earnhardt in the seat.


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Won Hung Lo 12 March 2005 15:26:01 [ permanent link ]
 YAWN....
Dale's dead, move along folks.

<big-spud@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:1i7431dmjnu7eb­01bg5837rn96q39pkrup­@4ax.com...> saw paul tracy talking on speed about his future, with childress and> nascar. could he be the future driver of the 3?


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Daniel Williams 12 March 2005 19:20:28 [ permanent link ]
 Doesn't matter if someone registers the # for 2006 before Richard does.
Anyone can register a # at the beginning of the season, it is first come
first serve, just like local short tracks. So the #3 CAN be used WHENEVER.

"Viper GTS" <ViperGTS@Dodge.org­> wrote in message
news:SrqYd.23383$Q8­3.14504@bignews5.bel­lsouth.net...> <big-spud@shaw.ca> wrote in message ...>> saw paul tracy talking on speed about his future, with childress and>> nascar. could he be the future driver of the 3?>
Nope. Childress (2004 on NASCAR on XM) said the only time he would use > the Stylized #3 or #33 was with Kerry Earnhardt in the seat.>


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LABlogger 12 March 2005 20:40:50 [ permanent link ]
 
From a marketing perspective, it would be stupid for anybody to "steal"
the 3 from Childress. The backlash the team would get from the race
fans would be huge, and I don't think any potential sponsor would be
too pleased.

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Viper GTS 12 March 2005 20:53:57 [ permanent link ]
 "Daniel Williams" <pennstate05@alltel­.net> wrote in message...> Doesn't matter if someone registers the # for 2006 before Richard does. > Anyone can register a # at the beginning of the season, it is first come > first serve, just like local short tracks. So the #3 CAN be used > WHENEVER.

That is just not true. NA$Cball gives folks who already used the number
first crack at extending it to the next year.


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Bud8car 12 March 2005 21:25:17 [ permanent link ]
 "Won Hung Lo" <me@home.org> wrote in message news:<dlAYd.26$Il1.­13@fe2.columbus.rr.c­om>...> YAWN....> Dale's dead, move along folks

go jerk off to your life size photos of princess jeffy you cocksmoker.
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Angela Sandow 12 March 2005 21:28:52 [ permanent link ]
 dale is dead..... is the best you can come up with is reverting to jeff and
his being a princess? what an original comment... spoken like a true jr.
fan!!!!!

but... DALES IS DEAD.... died what he loved doing, will always be remembered
yadayadayada

gordon rules even when dale was alive budman!!


"bud8car" <redbudweiser8car@y­ahoo.com> wrote in message
news:88a7d6d4.05031­20925.11cf8f02@posti­ng.google.com...> "Won Hung Lo" <me@home.org> wrote in message
news:<dlAYd.26$Il1.­13@fe2.columbus.rr.c­om>...> > YAWN....> > Dale's dead, move along folks>
go jerk off to your life size photos of princess jeffy you cocksmoker.


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Daniel Williams 12 March 2005 22:37:44 [ permanent link ]
 It is true, because it is if you used in the PREVIOUS year, and since it has
not been used since 2001, its up for grabs.

"Viper GTS" <ViperGTS@Dodge.org­> wrote in message
news:03FYd.24023$6g­7.17369@bignews1.bel­lsouth.net...> "Daniel Williams" <pennstate05@alltel­.net> wrote in message...>> Doesn't matter if someone registers the # for 2006 before Richard does. >> Anyone can register a # at the beginning of the season, it is first come >> first serve, just like local short tracks. So the #3 CAN be used >> WHENEVER.>
That is just not true. NA$Cball gives folks who already used the number > first crack at extending it to the next year.>


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Viper GTS 12 March 2005 23:03:40 [ permanent link ]
 "Daniel Williams" <pennstate05@alltel­.net> wrote in message ...> It is true, because it is if you used in the PREVIOUS year, and since it > has not been used since 2001, its up for grabs.

No. I think that Childress gets first shot at it indefinitely. If he drops
the number, then perhaps it goes back into the pool. But if it goes into
the pool, I actually believe that might force NA$Cball to retire the
number. And if they do that, when King Richard stops being an owner
(retirement or death) they would probably retire 43 as well.


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Daniel Williams 13 March 2005 17:16:43 [ permanent link ]
 They will never retire a number in NASCAR, for the simple fact that NASCAR
can not limit its entries into any one race. So therefore, if all 109
entries showed up with ALL different numbers, and the #3 was retired, then
one driver would go home. Then the #43 would be retired so another driver
would go home. Then the #21, #72, #7, #28, and a few others would be
retired. So that 109 dwindles and they start running out of #'s. I
personally do not see where 76 Wins = 200 Wins, so IMO the #43 should be
retired FAR sooner than the #3. And as far as that goes, the #24 should be
retired before the #3 as well, because he is going to destroy Earnhardt in
wins. I don't like any of the 3 of them, because I am a Ford guy, but Jeff
Gordon is the better race, there's been more competition in the later half
of the modern era, meaning Gordon accomplished a tougher feat of getting to
the wins total he has, and winning 4 championships.

"Viper GTS" <ViperGTS@Dodge.org­> wrote in message
news:W_GYd.15475$c7­2.8777@bignews3.bell­south.net...> "Daniel Williams" <pennstate05@alltel­.net> wrote in message ...>> It is true, because it is if you used in the PREVIOUS year, and since it >> has not been used since 2001, its up for grabs.>
No. I think that Childress gets first shot at it indefinitely. If he > drops the number, then perhaps it goes back into the pool. But if it > goes into the pool, I actually believe that might force NA$Cball to > retire the number. And if they do that, when King Richard stops being an > owner (retirement or death) they would probably retire 43 as well.>


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Rod Williams 13 March 2005 21:42:20 [ permanent link ]
 big-spud@shaw.ca wrote:> saw paul tracy talking on speed about his future, with childress and> nascar. could he be the future driver of the 3?
The number should be used or have to give it up just like they did to
Petty. I don't remember how many years it was after he retired but if
they made a legend like Petty use his number or lose it, then it is time
for the 3 to be used by Childress or lose it. I am tired of this
Earnhardt crap.
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Viper GTS 13 March 2005 22:16:48 [ permanent link ]
 "Daniel Williams" <pennstate05@alltel­.net> wrote in message ...> They will never retire a number in NASCAR, for the simple fact that NASCAR > can not limit its entries into any one race. So therefore, if all 109 > entries showed up with ALL different numbers, and the #3 was retired, then > one driver would go home. Then the #43 would be retired so another driver > would go home. Then the #21, #72, #7, #28, and a few others would be > retired. So that 109 dwindles and they start running out of #'s. I > personally do not see where 76 Wins = 200 Wins, so IMO the #43 should be > retired FAR sooner than the #3. And as far as that goes, the #24 should > be retired before the #3 as well, because he is going to destroy Earnhardt > in wins. I don't like any of the 3 of them, because I am a Ford guy, but > Jeff Gordon is the better race, there's been more competition in the later > half of the modern era, meaning Gordon accomplished a tougher feat of > getting to the wins total he has, and winning 4 championships.

You minimize the fact that certain drivers had a profound effect on the
sport. Earnhardt brought NA$Cball into the realm of major sports in this
country. Before him, it was often percieved as redneck-only, for
moonshine runners. If not by many Americans, than at least by sponsors and
television/movie BOD's. Earnhardt is much like Babe Ruth. Ruth did not
have the highest average, nor did he hit the most home runs. But you
cannot say Barry Bonds or Wade Boggs did more for Baseball than Ruth did.


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Viper GTS 13 March 2005 22:18:40 [ permanent link ]
 "Rod Williams" <Rodf@adelphia.net>­ wrote in message> The number should be used or have to give it up just like they did to > Petty. I don't remember how many years it was after he retired but if they > made a legend like Petty use his number or lose it, then it is time for > the 3 to be used by Childress or lose it. I am tired of this Earnhardt > crap.

Then leave Usenet and stop watching or going to NA$Cball races. None of us
will stop talking about Earnhardt just because your delicate little
sensibilities are offended.


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Rod Williams 13 March 2005 23:49:13 [ permanent link ]
 Viper GTS wrote:> "Rod Williams" <Rodf@adelphia.net>­ wrote in message>
The number should be used or have to give it up just like they did to >>Petty. I don't remember how many years it was after he retired but if they >>made a legend like Petty use his number or lose it, then it is time for >>the 3 to be used by Childress or lose it. I am tired of this Earnhardt >>crap.>
Then leave Usenet and stop watching or going to NA$Cball races. None of us > will stop talking about Earnhardt just because your delicate little > sensibilities are offended. >
You missed my point. Answer why it is ok to force Petty to use his
number, but it's ok to not use the number 3.
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Mike Marlow 14 March 2005 00:15:35 [ permanent link ]
 
"Viper GTS" <ViperGTS@Dodge.org­> wrote in message
news:sn%Yd.27676$Q8­3.1788@bignews5.bell­south.net...>
You minimize the fact that certain drivers had a profound effect on the> sport. Earnhardt brought NA$Cball into the realm of major sports in this> country. Before him, it was often percieved as redneck-only, for> moonshine runners. If not by many Americans, than at least by sponsors
television/movie BOD's. Earnhardt is much like Babe Ruth. Ruth did not> have the highest average, nor did he hit the most home runs. But you> cannot say Barry Bonds or Wade Boggs did more for Baseball than Ruth did.>

I think Earnhardt was indisputably a character that to some degree
epitomized stock car racing, but I disagree that he was instrumental in
shedding the redneck image. In fact, I believe he was very much a part of
keeping that image alive. I think the guys that are more responsible for
changing (to whatever degree it has even really changed in the minds of most
Americans), are guys like Gordon, Stewart, Evernham, and a host of the
younger drivers who display more of an image consistent with today's 20 and
30-somethings than the traditional redneck image. I believe Earnhardt ranks
among only a few drivers in the history of stock car racing to really
develop a fan base with the conviction that 3 fans possess. 3 fans are
deep, die-hard fans. Almost fanatical. His persona was indeed among the
best of the best at cultivating this type of fan conviction.

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Viper GTS 14 March 2005 01:46:42 [ permanent link ]
 "Rod Williams" <Rodf@adelphia.net>­ wrote in message> You missed my point. Answer why it is ok to force Petty to use his number, > but it's ok to not use the number 3.

I don't think Petty is being "forced" to do this. He is alive and wants the
number used. Childress was a nothing before Earnhardt. Dale made him a
very, very rich man; and I believe they were reasonably close friends.
Childress is probably doing this out of his love for Dale. And he has
used the stylized #3 to let Dale's son drive the #33 a few times.


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Viper GTS 14 March 2005 01:54:48 [ permanent link ]
 "Mike Marlow" <mike6963REMOVE@all­tel.net> wrote in message> I think Earnhardt was indisputably a character that to some degree> epitomized stock car racing, but I disagree that he was instrumental in> shedding the redneck image. In fact, I believe he was very much a part of> keeping that image alive. I think the guys that are more responsible for> changing (to whatever degree it has even really changed in the minds of > most> Americans), are guys like Gordon, Stewart, Evernham, and a host of the> younger drivers who display more of an image consistent with today's 20 > and> 30-somethings than the traditional redneck image. I believe Earnhardt > ranks> among only a few drivers in the history of stock car racing to really> develop a fan base with the conviction that 3 fans possess. 3 fans are> deep, die-hard fans. Almost fanatical. His persona was indeed among the> best of the best at cultivating this type of fan conviction.

We will have to agree to disagree then, Mike. IMHO, Dale grew the sport
quite a bit. He brought attention to the sport from major sponsors. In the
time of Earnhardt a lot more money came into the sport, as has TV ad costs,
etc. Also, Earnhardt exploded the market for fan product purchases. The
money being spent now on NA$Cball (and #3) paraphernalia is almost shocking.
Now we need a driver that will convince Fox and ESPN to fire these goober
announcers. They say some of the silliest things.


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Mike Marlow 14 March 2005 02:06:49 [ permanent link ]
 
"Viper GTS" <ViperGTS@Dodge.org­> wrote in message
news:Nz2Zd.27802$Q8­3.2792@bignews5.bell­south.net...>
We will have to agree to disagree then, Mike.

That's an OK thing to happen.
IMHO, Dale grew the sport> quite a bit. He brought attention to the sport from major sponsors.

I'm not sure I agree that he brought this attention, but...
In the> time of Earnhardt a lot more money came into the sport, as has TV ad
costs,> etc. Also, Earnhardt exploded the market for fan product purchases.

I do agree with this statement.
Now we need a driver that will convince Fox and ESPN to fire these goober> announcers. They say some of the silliest things.>

And I really agree with this statement.

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mike6963REMOVE@allt­el.net


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Just Linda 14 March 2005 02:18:58 [ permanent link ]
 saw paul tracy talking on speed about his future, with childress and
nascar. could he be the future driver of the 3?
```````````````````­```
Nope. Childress (2004 on NASCAR on XM) said the only time he would use
the Stylized #3 or #33 was with Kerry Earnhardt in the seat.
```````````````````­````

The Earnhardt "Stylized #3" is key, perhaps more so than any old "3".

Does anybody -know- if a team has even ASKED for the "3"?

If so, then who?

linda, I'll answer my own question: NO!

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Viper GTS 14 March 2005 22:32:29 [ permanent link ]
 "The original BP" <posner889@yahoo.co­m> wrote in message> DE 23 wins, JG 52 wins> DE 2 championships, JG 3 championships.>
DE stopped putting up the big numbers when he finally had some serious> competition.

And Barry Bonds had better numbers than Babe Ruth. Doesn't mean Barry
contributed more to the sport, however. Same goes with Dale Earnhardt.
Dale contributed more to the sport. The sport grew more as a result of
Dale's following; and Dale has pretty much defined the NA$CAR paraphernalia
purchasing market. It's not all about pure numbers with regard to wins.
Dale contributed in other ways. Being a statistician, I think you are
missing the bigger picture.


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The Ikon That Can Still Go 14 March 2005 22:37:01 [ permanent link ]
 
Earnhardt brought NA$Cball into the realm of major sports in this
country.

It's (NASCAR) doing a helluva lot more successful without him... and
don't say he laid the groundwork for it to be successful. J. Gordon
had alot to do with it, being a very visible endorser for a lot of
mainstream products.

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Mike Marlow 15 March 2005 01:13:02 [ permanent link ]
 
"Viper GTS" <ViperGTS@Dodge.org­> wrote in message
news:zFmZd.46714$%Y­4.40641@bignews6.bel­lsouth.net...
Brooke told me to say that. I would never take such a pot shot on my
own.>

So... do ya s'ppose you could put in a word with her on my behalf?

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mike6963REMOVE@allt­el.net


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The original BP 15 March 2005 10:29:41 [ permanent link ]
 
Gordon wrote:
Hummm...So do you feel Gordon now has some serious competition?
Although he> has won recently, his season long dominance is not what it once was.

Yes. His ultra-dominating days ended in 99. Just look at who has
entered the sport since 1999: Stewart, Kewnseth, DE Jr, Johnson, Busch,
Newman. IMO, those are better drivers (or, put more fairly, those are
better car-driver-crew combos) than those drivers who have left the
sport.

Who has gone since 99? Mike Skinner, Bobby Hamilton, Steve Park, Wally
Dallenbach, Chad Little, Geoff and Brett and Todd Bodine, Johnny
Benson, Rick Mast, Ted Musgrave, Jerry Nadeau, David Green, a washed up
DW, Rich Bickle, Robert Pressley, Ricky Craven. I think the guys who
replaced this bunch are an improvement.

So, yes, I think the competition is much stiffer now. There are more
cars capable of winning than at any time in the history of NASCAR.

bp

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Guest 15 March 2005 19:37:04 [ permanent link ]
 
The original BP wrote:> Gordon wrote:>
Hummm...So do you feel Gordon now has some serious competition?> Although he> > has won recently, his season long dominance is not what it once
was.>
Yes. His ultra-dominating days ended in 99. Just look at who has> entered the sport since 1999: Stewart, Kewnseth, DE Jr, Johnson,
Busch,> Newman. IMO, those are better drivers (or, put more fairly, those are> better car-driver-crew combos) than those drivers who have left the> sport.>
Who has gone since 99? Mike Skinner, Bobby Hamilton, Steve Park,
Wally> Dallenbach, Chad Little, Geoff and Brett and Todd Bodine, Johnny> Benson, Rick Mast, Ted Musgrave, Jerry Nadeau, David Green, a washed
DW, Rich Bickle, Robert Pressley, Ricky Craven. I think the guys who> replaced this bunch are an improvement.>
So, yes, I think the competition is much stiffer now. There are more> cars capable of winning than at any time in the history of NASCAR.>
bp


The "competition" is stiffer, plus there are more templates that all
the cars have to use, plus it's harder and harder for any one team to
get a major advantage on any other team because of this. The "old"
days of being able to be innovative (and even creatively cheat) are
totally gone. Too many rules have taken over. When RP was winning his
7 championships, and even DE, they were able to be a lot more creative
with their equipment and their driving, even. It won't happen again.

N.

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~Consul 26 March 2005 00:16:24 [ permanent link ]
 Viper GTS wrote:> "Daniel Williams" <pennstate05@alltel­.net> wrote in message...> That is just not true. NA$Cball gives folks who already used the number > first crack at extending it to the next year.

Why do they let an 08, when there is already an 8? It seems to be just a way at
confusion or to snake some air time with a close reference.
--
"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk ..."
--till next time, Jameson Stalanthas Yu -x- <<poetry.dolphins-c­ove.com>>
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Viper GTS 26 March 2005 02:28:54 [ permanent link ]
 ~consul wrote:> Viper GTS wrote:>> "Daniel Williams" <pennstate05@alltel­.net> wrote in message...>> That is just not true. NA$Cball gives folks who already used the>> number first crack at extending it to the next year.>
Why do they let an 08, when there is already an 8? It seems to be> just a way at confusion or to snake some air time with a close> reference.


It is probably confusing to folks just starting to follow the sport; but
the regulars do not mistake the numbers. Most of the new folks to NA$$Cball
probably buy those programs that are for sale at the track; and immediately
know the numbers, drivers, and other information about each team.


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~Consul 26 March 2005 02:37:06 [ permanent link ]
 Viper GTS wrote:> ~consul wrote:>>Viper GTS wrote:>>>That is just not true. NA$Cball gives folks who already used the>>>number first crack at extending it to the next year.>>Why do they let an 08, when there is already an 8? It seems to be>>just a way at confusion or to snake some air time with a close>>reference.> It is probably confusing to folks just starting to follow the sport; but > the regulars do not mistake the numbers. Most of the new folks to NA$$Cball > probably buy those programs that are for sale at the track; and immediately > know the numbers, drivers, and other information about each team.

Sure, but I would have thought that folks like DEI would have had some words or
concerns about the similarities. Nothing actionable upon, but was there any
thing said about it, like motivation or something?
--
"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk ..."
--till next time, Jameson Stalanthas Yu -x- <<poetry.dolphins-c­ove.com>>
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Viper GTS 26 March 2005 02:44:14 [ permanent link ]
 ~consul wrote:>> It is probably confusing to folks just starting to follow the sport;>> but the regulars do not mistake the numbers. Most of the new folks>> to NA$$Cball probably buy those programs that are for sale at the>> track; and immediately know the numbers, drivers, and other>> information about each team.>
Sure, but I would have thought that folks like DEI would have had> some words or concerns about the similarities. Nothing actionable> upon, but was there any thing said about it, like motivation or> something?


I cannot remember Jayski or NASCAR.com ever posting articles sharing the
feelings of owners who have had a 0 put in front of the number they already
had reserved. The must not care.


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