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Re: best tyres on front or rear?
Lanny Chambers 7 April 2005 22:17:48
	In article <1112882258.487754.262940@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, "miata" <peter.icaza@gmail.com> wrote: i had to replace 2 tyres due to road hazard and the remaining tyres a> still very serviceable. so where should the new tyres go? front or> rear? Normally, I'd put the best tires on the front, for stopping and steering. But a Miata tends to wear the rear tires faster than the fronts--about twice as fast, in my case--so I'd start them on the rear. Rotate all-season tires front-to-rear at every other oil change (6000 miles), summer performance tires every oil change (3000 miles). -- Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA '94C the alignment page: http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html
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Xs11e 10 April 2005 20:17:47 [ permanent link ]
	Lanny Chambers wrote in: Besides, isn't there always some new tire you'd like to try? Hmmmm.... that's getting to be a really tough choice, 4 new tires or fill the gas tank? <GD&R>
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Simply Pete 10 April 2005 22:21:12 [ permanent link ]
	"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message news:Xns96345E91DADA8xs11eyahoocom@68.6.19.6...> Lanny Chambers wrote in:> Besides, isn't there always some new tire you'd like to try? > Hmmmm.... that's getting to be a really tough choice, 4 new tires or> fill the gas tank? <GD&R> Just filled my '94 BRG yesterday... at 85 cents a litre (up in Canada, eh ! ) it came to $35. new tires installed would equal about 12 fill-ups. I wouldn't use that much gas in the Miata all summer. Still a lot of smiles per dollar ! Pete
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Xs11e 10 April 2005 22:47:48 [ permanent link ]
	Simply Pete wrote in: "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message> news:Xns96345E91DADA8xs11eyahoocom@68.6.19.6...>> Lanny Chambers wrote in:>> Besides, isn't there always some new tire you'd like to try? >> > >> Hmmmm.... that's getting to be a really tough choice, 4 new tires>> or fill the gas tank? <GD&R> > Just filled my '94 BRG yesterday... at 85 cents a litre (up in> Canada, eh ! ) it came to $35.> new tires installed would equal about 12 fill-ups.> I wouldn't use that much gas in the Miata all summer. Wait a month and calculate again.
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South Ocean Drive 11 April 2005 01:10:39 [ permanent link ]
	"miata" <peter.icaza@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1112882258.487754.262940@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...> hi,> i had to replace 2 tyres due to road hazard and the remaining tyres a> still very serviceable. so where should the new tyres go? front or> rear?> thanks,> peter> I've had good luck with putting the two new tires on the front and the 'best two,' usually the old front tires, remounted in the rear. That gives me good rubber in the front. When the rears are shot, I'll buy two more, have them put in the front, and the 'best two' mounted in the rear. It combines rotation with economy.
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Lanny Chambers 11 April 2005 02:30:06 [ permanent link ]
	In article <alangbaker-B22EEA.12141610042005@news.telus.net>, Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote: I've never heard this before -- that heat cycling causes performance > tires to deteriorate. Do you have any links on the subject? Try a search at miataforum.com. Summer HP tires are never the same the next spring (I have another car for snow, so I don't swap tires for winter). I can't tell you if it's the cold, or simply the extra months. Some blame it on too many heat cycles. Everyone notices the effect. -- Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA '94C the alignment page: http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html
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M . Cantera 11 April 2005 02:34:22 [ permanent link ]
	On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:10:39 -0400, "South Ocean Drive" <southoceandriveREMOVE@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote: "miata" <peter.icaza@gmail.com> wrote in message >news:1112882258.487754.262940@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...>> hi,>> i had to replace 2 tyres due to road hazard and the remaining tyres a>> still very serviceable. so where should the new tyres go? front or>> rear?>> thanks,>> peter>> I've had good luck with putting the two new tires on the front and the 'best >two,' usually the old front tires, remounted in the rear. That gives me >good rubber in the front. When the rears are shot, I'll buy two more, have >them put in the front, and the 'best two' mounted in the rear. It combines >rotation with economy. > The driven wheels should always have the better tires. All things being equal the older, more worn tires are more likely to come loose when you hit them with torque are an inoportune moment such as the nice ruts in the cloverleaf during a rainstorm.
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South Ocean Drive 11 April 2005 08:06:50 [ permanent link ]
	"M. Cantera" <cantera_2@RemoveThis.netzero.com> wrote in message news:li9j51dre61ae1a6brbkp7pstodi3jesur@4ax.com...> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:10:39 -0400, "South Ocean Drive"> <southoceandriveREMOVE@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:> I've had good luck with putting the two new tires on the front and the >>'best>>two,' usually the old front tires, remounted in the rear. That gives me>>good rubber in the front. When the rears are shot, I'll buy two more, >>have>>them put in the front, and the 'best two' mounted in the rear. It >>combines>>rotation with economy.>> The driven wheels should always have the better tires. All things> being equal the older, more worn tires are more likely to come loose> when you hit them with torque are an inoportune moment such as the> nice ruts in the cloverleaf during a rainstorm. My concern is more about loss of steering control in the event of a blowout or sudden loss of tire pressure. I prefer to have the best rubber in front -- that's the end that's steering -- to assure steering control. That said, I don't let the rears get to the point where the tread is nonexistent. If the concern is 'coming loose,' the tires must be in good shape. My driving involves lots of high-speed freeway stuff -- and a blowout at speed is a concern. That's why I want the best 'blowout prevention' on the front.
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Leon van Dommelen 12 April 2005 04:14:03 [ permanent link ]
	rammm@REMOVE_THIS_TAGdommelen.net (Leon van Dommelen) wrote: unlikely to lose much effectiveness that way. What someone might>be able to notice, I have no clue. Come to think of it, noticing a difference between new and heat cycled/aged tires on the car at the same time might be easier. Leon -- Leon van Dommelen Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata .) rammm@dommelen.net http://www.dommelen.net/miata EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen)
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Lanny Chambers 12 April 2005 04:29:38 [ permanent link ]
	In article <alangbaker-69DA05.14155211042005@news.telus.net>, Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote: There is one reference to heat cycles and tires on miata.net and that > -- again -- is only in relation to competition tires. You looked in the wrong place, Alan. Go to: http://forum.miata.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=search;search_forum=3 Enter "heat cycle" and leave the other options at their defaults. You should find ~97 forum threads discussing heat cycling of tires, mostly NOT concerning racing tires. That's about as close to "common knowledge" as you'll find. My intuition, FWIW, is that it's far easier to accidentally heat cycle a performance street tire than a dedicated racing tire, since the latter are designed for extreme high-temperature use, and are kept at optimum temperature for a greater part of their duty cycles, rather than being heated and cooled repeatedly like street tires. Many racing tires see only one or two cycles before they're discarded. A street tire may see hundreds, and thousands more partial cycles without the benefit of full cooling between. -- Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA '94C the alignment page: http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html
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