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Rusted 3 May 2005 21:05:32
	Does this only happen to me? I have spend the past few nights with the jeep "studying" for the state safety and emissions test. The jeep is running great now, and I have taken care of a few odd things (like mud flaps, and the mirror that came off a while back). Last year the hazard light switch was flakey, but because of a fast tongue it passed. So last night I tear into the steering column and replace the turn signal / hazard switch, and walla all is well. Drove it around last night, and everything worked fine. Until this morning ON THE WAY to the inspection house I notice that my left turn signal indicator light on the dash is not working. What could be wrong. For some reason my front signal does not work now, the dash indicator does not work, but the rear signal does work. The entire right side works fine. What is wrong this time??? Is there anything common with the dash indicator and front signal, that is not common with the rear light? This is a 83 CJ7 Thanks for any ideas
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Mike Romain 3 May 2005 21:09:50 [ permanent link ]
	Burned out bulb? Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Rusted wrote:> Does this only happen to me?> I have spend the past few nights with the jeep "studying" for the state> safety and emissions test. The jeep is running great now, and I have taken> care of a few odd things (like mud flaps, and the mirror that came off a> while back). Last year the hazard light switch was flakey, but because of a> fast tongue it passed. So last night I tear into the steering column and> replace the turn signal / hazard switch, and walla all is well. Drove it> around last night, and everything worked fine.> Until this morning ON THE WAY to the inspection house I notice that my left> turn signal indicator light on the dash is not working. What could be> wrong. For some reason my front signal does not work now, the dash> indicator does not work, but the rear signal does work. The entire right> side works fine. What is wrong this time??? Is there anything common with> the dash indicator and front signal, that is not common with the rear light?> This is a 83 CJ7 Thanks for any ideas
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Rusted 3 May 2005 21:46:18 [ permanent link ]
	My first guess, I replaced the front bulb already. No change. "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:4277B05E.3FBF46A3@sympatico.ca...> Burned out bulb?> Mike> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's> Rusted wrote:>> Does this only happen to me?>> I have spend the past few nights with the jeep "studying" for the state>> safety and emissions test. The jeep is running great now, and I have >> taken>> care of a few odd things (like mud flaps, and the mirror that came off a>> while back). Last year the hazard light switch was flakey, but because >> of a>> fast tongue it passed. So last night I tear into the steering column >> and>> replace the turn signal / hazard switch, and walla all is well. Drove it>> around last night, and everything worked fine.>> Until this morning ON THE WAY to the inspection house I notice that my >> left>> turn signal indicator light on the dash is not working. What could be>> wrong. For some reason my front signal does not work now, the dash>> indicator does not work, but the rear signal does work. The entire right>> side works fine. What is wrong this time??? Is there anything common >> with>> the dash indicator and front signal, that is not common with the rear >> light?>> This is a 83 CJ7 Thanks for any ideas
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L . W . Hughes III 3 May 2005 21:51:22 [ permanent link ]
	Then it's back into your column to reconnect that wire, or fix where it got pinched to ground. God Bless America, Гџill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Rusted wrote:> My first guess, I replaced the front bulb already. No change.
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Steve Foley 3 May 2005 22:12:45 [ permanent link ]
	You're not the only one. Three years ago I pulled into the extortion station. There was already a car inside being tested. They told me to back up against the fence. I backed up and pushed the brake pedal. The pedal went to the floor as a brake line let go. "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message news:xbOde.111$jp3.28@fe39.usenetserver.com...> Does this only happen to me?> I have spend the past few nights with the jeep "studying" for the state> safety and emissions test. The jeep is running great now, and I have taken> care of a few odd things (like mud flaps, and the mirror that came off a> while back). Last year the hazard light switch was flakey, but because of fast tongue it passed. So last night I tear into the steering column and> replace the turn signal / hazard switch, and walla all is well. Drove it> around last night, and everything worked fine.> Until this morning ON THE WAY to the inspection house I notice that my left> turn signal indicator light on the dash is not working. What could be> wrong. For some reason my front signal does not work now, the dash> indicator does not work, but the rear signal does work. The entire right> side works fine. What is wrong this time??? Is there anything common with> the dash indicator and front signal, that is not common with the rear light?> This is a 83 CJ7 Thanks for any ideas>
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Rusted 3 May 2005 22:23:13 [ permanent link ]
	Still does not account for why the rear works, and not the front or the dash. The column only knows "blinker on" - " blinker off" and that is working (in the rear). I have the old switch I can plug in to test that theory. "L.W. ("Яill") Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net> wrote in message news:4277BA1A.45CDFE75@cox.net...> Then it's back into your column to reconnect that wire, or fix> where it got pinched to ground.> God Bless America, Яill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O> mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/> Rusted wrote:>> My first guess, I replaced the front bulb already. No change.
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L . W . Hughes III 3 May 2005 22:43:14 [ permanent link ]
	Every switch has at least six wires running from it, it must in order to be able to switch off the rear stop light to use as a turn signal. God Bless America, Гџill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Rusted wrote:> Still does not account for why the rear works, and not the front or the> dash. The column only knows "blinker on" - " blinker off" and that is> working (in the rear). I have the old switch I can plug in to test that> theory.> "L.W. ("Гџill") Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net> wrote in message> news:4277BA1A.45CDFE75@cox.net...> > Then it's back into your column to reconnect that wire, or fix> > where it got pinched to ground.> > God Bless America, Гџill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O> > mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/> > Rusted wrote:> >> My first guess, I replaced the front bulb already. No change.
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Mike Romain 3 May 2005 23:03:27 [ permanent link ]
	The wire in common is green with a white stripe. Mike Rusted wrote:> My first guess, I replaced the front bulb already. No change.> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message> news:4277B05E.3FBF46A3@sympatico.ca...> > Burned out bulb?> > Mike> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's> > Rusted wrote:> >> Does this only happen to me?> >> I have spend the past few nights with the jeep "studying" for the state> >> safety and emissions test. The jeep is running great now, and I have> >> taken> >> care of a few odd things (like mud flaps, and the mirror that came off a> >> while back). Last year the hazard light switch was flakey, but because> >> of a> >> fast tongue it passed. So last night I tear into the steering column> >> and> >> replace the turn signal / hazard switch, and walla all is well. Drove it> >> around last night, and everything worked fine.> >> Until this morning ON THE WAY to the inspection house I notice that my> >> left> >> turn signal indicator light on the dash is not working. What could be> >> wrong. For some reason my front signal does not work now, the dash> >> indicator does not work, but the rear signal does work. The entire right> >> side works fine. What is wrong this time??? Is there anything common> >> with> >> the dash indicator and front signal, that is not common with the rear> >> light?> >> This is a 83 CJ7 Thanks for any ideas
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Rusted 4 May 2005 00:46:24 [ permanent link ]
	the green with white stripe is common between the front and the dash, and not common to the rear signal correct? "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:4277CAFF.C3E5DEDD@sympatico.ca...> The wire in common is green with a white stripe.> Mike> Rusted wrote:>> My first guess, I replaced the front bulb already. No change.>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message>> news:4277B05E.3FBF46A3@sympatico.ca...>> > Burned out bulb?>> > Mike>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's>> > Rusted wrote:>> >> Does this only happen to me?>> >> I have spend the past few nights with the jeep "studying" for the >> >> state>> >> safety and emissions test. The jeep is running great now, and I have>> >> taken>> >> care of a few odd things (like mud flaps, and the mirror that came off >> >> a>> >> while back). Last year the hazard light switch was flakey, but >> >> because>> >> of a>> >> fast tongue it passed. So last night I tear into the steering column>> >> and>> >> replace the turn signal / hazard switch, and walla all is well. Drove >> >> it>> >> around last night, and everything worked fine.>> >> Until this morning ON THE WAY to the inspection house I notice that my>> >> left>> >> turn signal indicator light on the dash is not working. What could >> >> be>> >> wrong. For some reason my front signal does not work now, the dash>> >> indicator does not work, but the rear signal does work. The entire >> >> right>> >> side works fine. What is wrong this time??? Is there anything >> >> common>> >> with>> >> the dash indicator and front signal, that is not common with the rear>> >> light?>> >> This is a 83 CJ7 Thanks for any ideas
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Rusted 4 May 2005 01:02:15 [ permanent link ]
	That sounds worse than mine, I will take a bad blinker over brake loss any day. "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message news:xaPde.35$Ri.27@trnddc08...> You're not the only one.> Three years ago I pulled into the extortion station. There was already a > car> inside being tested. They told me to back up against the fence. I backed > up> and pushed the brake pedal. The pedal went to the floor as a brake line > let> go.> "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message> news:xbOde.111$jp3.28@fe39.usenetserver.com...>> Does this only happen to me?>> I have spend the past few nights with the jeep "studying" for the state>> safety and emissions test. The jeep is running great now, and I have> taken>> care of a few odd things (like mud flaps, and the mirror that came off a>> while back). Last year the hazard light switch was flakey, but because >> of> a>> fast tongue it passed. So last night I tear into the steering column >> and>> replace the turn signal / hazard switch, and walla all is well. Drove it>> around last night, and everything worked fine.>> Until this morning ON THE WAY to the inspection house I notice that my> left>> turn signal indicator light on the dash is not working. What could be>> wrong. For some reason my front signal does not work now, the dash>> indicator does not work, but the rear signal does work. The entire right>> side works fine. What is wrong this time??? Is there anything common> with>> the dash indicator and front signal, that is not common with the rear> light?>> This is a 83 CJ7 Thanks for any ideas>>
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Mike Romain 4 May 2005 01:24:39 [ permanent link ]
	The rears are a light green. Mike Rusted wrote:> the green with white stripe is common between the front and the dash, and> not common to the rear signal correct?> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message> news:4277CAFF.C3E5DEDD@sympatico.ca...> > The wire in common is green with a white stripe.> > Mike> > Rusted wrote:> >> My first guess, I replaced the front bulb already. No change.> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message> >> news:4277B05E.3FBF46A3@sympatico.ca...> >> > Burned out bulb?> >> > Mike> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's> >> > Rusted wrote:> >> >> Does this only happen to me?> >> >> I have spend the past few nights with the jeep "studying" for the> >> >> state> >> >> safety and emissions test. The jeep is running great now, and I have> >> >> taken> >> >> care of a few odd things (like mud flaps, and the mirror that came off> >> >> a> >> >> while back). Last year the hazard light switch was flakey, but> >> >> because> >> >> of a> >> >> fast tongue it passed. So last night I tear into the steering column> >> >> and> >> >> replace the turn signal / hazard switch, and walla all is well. Drove> >> >> it> >> >> around last night, and everything worked fine.> >> >> Until this morning ON THE WAY to the inspection house I notice that my> >> >> left> >> >> turn signal indicator light on the dash is not working. What could> >> >> be> >> >> wrong. For some reason my front signal does not work now, the dash> >> >> indicator does not work, but the rear signal does work. The entire> >> >> right> >> >> side works fine. What is wrong this time??? Is there anything> >> >> common> >> >> with> >> >> the dash indicator and front signal, that is not common with the rear> >> >> light?> >> >> This is a 83 CJ7 Thanks for any ideas
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Rusted 4 May 2005 09:48:43 [ permanent link ]
	I plugged my old switch into the harness, and things worked. So I replaced the "new" switch again, and so far so good. We will try for that all illusive safety and emissions again in the morning. Mike, thanks for the help with the color coded wires, it did help try to troubleshoot a bad switch. "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message news:xbOde.111$jp3.28@fe39.usenetserver.com...> Does this only happen to me?> I have spend the past few nights with the jeep "studying" for the state > safety and emissions test. The jeep is running great now, and I have > taken care of a few odd things (like mud flaps, and the mirror that came > off a while back). Last year the hazard light switch was flakey, but > because of a fast tongue it passed. So last night I tear into the > steering column and replace the turn signal / hazard switch, and walla all > is well. Drove it around last night, and everything worked fine.> Until this morning ON THE WAY to the inspection house I notice that my > left turn signal indicator light on the dash is not working. What could > be wrong. For some reason my front signal does not work now, the dash > indicator does not work, but the rear signal does work. The entire right > side works fine. What is wrong this time??? Is there anything common > with the dash indicator and front signal, that is not common with the rear > light?> This is a 83 CJ7 Thanks for any ideas>
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Thom 4 May 2005 10:22:12 [ permanent link ]
	No. Me and a friend of mine went to the test (he '78 CJ7, me '81 CJ7) last friday. Mine passed, his failed because of oil in the right rear drumbrake. He fixed it and did a retest yesterday, where they tested the brakes and did a quick runaround cause everything was fine friday. He passed. Pulling out of the test station he discovered that NONE of the turnsignals where working. Thom. "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message news:xbOde.111$jp3.28@fe39.usenetserver.com...> Does this only happen to me?> I have spend the past few nights with the jeep "studying" for the state > safety and emissions test. The jeep is running great now, and I have > taken care of a few odd things (like mud flaps, and the mirror that came > off a while back). Last year the hazard light switch was flakey, but > because of a fast tongue it passed. So last night I tear into the > steering column and replace the turn signal / hazard switch, and walla all > is well. Drove it around last night, and everything worked fine.> Until this morning ON THE WAY to the inspection house I notice that my > left turn signal indicator light on the dash is not working. What could > be wrong. For some reason my front signal does not work now, the dash > indicator does not work, but the rear signal does work. The entire right > side works fine. What is wrong this time??? Is there anything common > with the dash indicator and front signal, that is not common with the rear > light?> This is a 83 CJ7 Thanks for any ideas>
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Steve Foley 4 May 2005 15:30:52 [ permanent link ]
	The brakes had stopped the Jeep before the pedal hit the floor, so it really wasn't bad at all. Just one of those "Oh Sh*&" moments. The extortion station was 1/4 mile from my house, so I just drove home in first gear. "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message news:sFRde.2194$f2.1937@fe62.usenetserver.com...> That sounds worse than mine, I will take a bad blinker over brake loss any> day.> "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message> news:xaPde.35$Ri.27@trnddc08...> > You're not the only one.> > Three years ago I pulled into the extortion station. There was already a> > car> > inside being tested. They told me to back up against the fence. I backed> > up> > and pushed the brake pedal. The pedal went to the floor as a brake line> > let> > go.> > "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message> > news:xbOde.111$jp3.28@fe39.usenetserver.com...> >> Does this only happen to me?> >> I have spend the past few nights with the jeep "studying" for the state> >> safety and emissions test. The jeep is running great now, and I have> > taken> >> care of a few odd things (like mud flaps, and the mirror that came off while back). Last year the hazard light switch was flakey, but because> >> of> > a> >> fast tongue it passed. So last night I tear into the steering column> >> and> >> replace the turn signal / hazard switch, and walla all is well. Drove around last night, and everything worked fine.> >> Until this morning ON THE WAY to the inspection house I notice that my> > left> >> turn signal indicator light on the dash is not working. What could be> >> wrong. For some reason my front signal does not work now, the dash> >> indicator does not work, but the rear signal does work. The entire right> >> side works fine. What is wrong this time??? Is there anything common> > with> >> the dash indicator and front signal, that is not common with the rear> > light?> >> This is a 83 CJ7 Thanks for any ideas> >>
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Rusted 4 May 2005 22:07:13 [ permanent link ]
	Went to the shop today, only to find the familiar faces I know not working there any longer. Two older gentlemen were working, one was not limber enough to get his leg up into my jeep. These two guys tag teamed my safety inspection and it took them 15-20 minutes. They checked everything they could think of. They even noticed that my rear license plate was a little loose. Then for the visual part of the emissions test they printed a vacuum diagram to compare it with my engine, and even tugged on hoses to verify that they were properly attached. When he came in and told me that it passed I about fainted. After that it passed the sniffer in the tail pipe emissions test as well. This is better than a birthday! "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message news:xbOde.111$jp3.28@fe39.usenetserver.com...> Does this only happen to me?> I have spend the past few nights with the jeep "studying" for the state > safety and emissions test. The jeep is running great now, and I have > taken care of a few odd things (like mud flaps, and the mirror that came > off a while back). Last year the hazard light switch was flakey, but > because of a fast tongue it passed. So last night I tear into the > steering column and replace the turn signal / hazard switch, and walla all > is well. Drove it around last night, and everything worked fine.> Until this morning ON THE WAY to the inspection house I notice that my > left turn signal indicator light on the dash is not working. What could > be wrong. For some reason my front signal does not work now, the dash > indicator does not work, but the rear signal does work. The entire right > side works fine. What is wrong this time??? Is there anything common > with the dash indicator and front signal, that is not common with the rear > light?> This is a 83 CJ7 Thanks for any ideas>
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