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CarGuru > Jeep Willys > Tranny ID 25 April 2005 23:17:48

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Tranny ID
Tim Watkins 24 April 2005 01:53:54
	I'm trying to ID an auto tranny I have. I know Jeep used the Chrysler 904 and the 999 in their 80's era CJ's. Does anyone know how to tell the two apart? The 904's were used behind the 4cyl and the 999 behind the 6cyl engines. It's my understanding that the cases are exactly the same, just the internals are different. Any ideas? I'm sure the part numbers that are stamped into the side will decode, but I've got no reference to decode them. Thanks, Tim in Lowell, MA
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Mike Romain 24 April 2005 02:38:40 [ permanent link ]
	I believe the 4 banger one uses a cable for the kick down and the 6 uses a lever system for a kick down. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Tim Watkins wrote:> I'm trying to ID an auto tranny I have. I know Jeep used the Chrysler 904> and the 999 in their 80's era CJ's. Does anyone know how to tell the two> apart? The 904's were used behind the 4cyl and the 999 behind the 6cyl> engines. It's my understanding that the cases are exactly the same, just> the internals are different. Any ideas? I'm sure the part numbers that are> stamped into the side will decode, but I've got no reference to decode them.> Thanks,> Tim in> Lowell, MA
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Tim Watkins 24 April 2005 03:33:22 [ permanent link ]
	All I've got is a bare transmission -- no cables or levers came with it... The date code suggests it was built in Oct '82 which sounds about right. I was told it came from a Scrambler with a 258, but I can see a casting that says 904-2. Since the cases for the two transmissions are the same, I wonder if they would bother with two different castings just to change the number. I've got conflicting info, namely that it came off of a six cylinder, but the casting in the case says 904-2. Any other ideas, other than tearing it apart? Thanks, Tim in Lowell, MA Tim "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:426ACE70.303EFE1B@sympatico.ca...>I believe the 4 banger one uses a cable for the kick down and the 6 uses> a lever system for a kick down.> Mike> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's> Tim Watkins wrote:>> I'm trying to ID an auto tranny I have. I know Jeep used the Chrysler >> 904>> and the 999 in their 80's era CJ's. Does anyone know how to tell the two>> apart? The 904's were used behind the 4cyl and the 999 behind the 6cyl>> engines. It's my understanding that the cases are exactly the same, just>> the internals are different. Any ideas? I'm sure the part numbers that >> are>> stamped into the side will decode, but I've got no reference to decode >> them.>> Thanks,>> Tim in>> Lowell, MA
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Tim Watkins 24 April 2005 03:55:28 [ permanent link ]
	Here's a site with some pics: http://home.comcast.net/~timandca/tranny.html Thanks, Tim "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:426ACE70.303EFE1B@sympatico.ca...>I believe the 4 banger one uses a cable for the kick down and the 6 uses> a lever system for a kick down.> Mike> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's> Tim Watkins wrote:>> I'm trying to ID an auto tranny I have. I know Jeep used the Chrysler >> 904>> and the 999 in their 80's era CJ's. Does anyone know how to tell the two>> apart? The 904's were used behind the 4cyl and the 999 behind the 6cyl>> engines. It's my understanding that the cases are exactly the same, just>> the internals are different. Any ideas? I'm sure the part numbers that >> are>> stamped into the side will decode, but I've got no reference to decode >> them.>> Thanks,>> Tim in>> Lowell, MA
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L . W . Hughes III 24 April 2005 04:10:13 [ permanent link ]
	Looks like your SOL. http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/tf904.html http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/tf999.html God Bless America, Гџill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Tim Watkins wrote:> I'm trying to ID an auto tranny I have. I know Jeep used the Chrysler 904> and the 999 in their 80's era CJ's. Does anyone know how to tell the two> apart? The 904's were used behind the 4cyl and the 999 behind the 6cyl> engines. It's my understanding that the cases are exactly the same, just> the internals are different. Any ideas? I'm sure the part numbers that are> stamped into the side will decode, but I've got no reference to decode them.> Thanks,> Tim in> Lowell, MA
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L . W . Hughes III 24 April 2005 04:26:55 [ permanent link ]
	The 904 cast number's not self explanatory? God Bless America, Гџill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Tim Watkins wrote:> Here's a site with some pics:> http://home.comcast.net/~timandca/tranny.html> Thanks,> Tim
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Tim Watkins 24 April 2005 18:18:02 [ permanent link ]
	Do you know for sure that they used different castings for the same case? Tim "L.W. ("Яill") Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net> wrote in message news:426AE7CF.25BD9F71@cox.net...> The 904 cast number's not self explanatory?> God Bless America, Яill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O> mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/> Tim Watkins wrote:>> Here's a site with some pics:>> http://home.comcast.net/~timandca/tranny.html>> Thanks,>> Tim
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L . W . Hughes III 24 April 2005 23:51:41 [ permanent link ]
	I'd put money one it. What makes you think they would put the number 904 on a 999 case? God Bless America, Гџill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Tim Watkins wrote:> Do you know for sure that they used different castings for the same case?> Tim
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Tim Watkins 25 April 2005 16:14:56 [ permanent link ]
	It's the same exact case. Car makers and suppliers are not known for doing things twice for the same result. I think its a 904 as well, but I've never seen a 999, so I'm looking for someone who has that can say for sure they're marked 999.... Tim "L.W. ("Яill") Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net> wrote in message news:426BF8CD.6050E0B1@cox.net...> I'd put money one it. What makes you think they would put the> number 904 on a 999 case?> God Bless America, Яill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O> mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/> Tim Watkins wrote:>> Do you know for sure that they used different castings for the same case?>> Tim
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Tim Watkins 25 April 2005 16:43:24 [ permanent link ]
	The other thing that makes me think it's a 999 is that it's input shaft appears to be made for a lock-up converter, which the 904 is not supposed to have.... "L.W. ("Яill") Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net> wrote in message news:426BF8CD.6050E0B1@cox.net...> I'd put money one it. What makes you think they would put the> number 904 on a 999 case?> God Bless America, Яill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O> mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/> Tim Watkins wrote:>> Do you know for sure that they used different castings for the same case?>> Tim
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L . W . Hughes III 25 April 2005 23:17:48 [ permanent link ]
	http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/tf904.html God Bless America, Гџill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Tim Watkins wrote:> The other thing that makes me think it's a 999 is that it's input shaft> appears to be made for a lock-up converter, which the 904 is not supposed to> have....
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