I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I would ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking if it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of any kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think it is? What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership? (I live in Ontario...)
I checked with the dealership and they quoted me $500 (Canadian) for a complete front brake job...
Any input? Thanks, Joe.
"GA" <gg@gg.ca> wrote in message news:4ZC6e.2650$MZ2.416180@news20.bellglobal.com...> Hello everyone,>
I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I would> ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking if> it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of any> kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think
is?> What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership? (I> live in Ontario...)>
I agree it's very easy. I read that article and it's very good. The part that literally took the longest for me was the jacking and removal/installation of tires. And that was using a floor jack and a 4-way wrench.
Shawn
"Nathan Otis" <na@smeat.spam.net> wrote in message news:mFD6e.70$Fe5.2632@news.uswest.net...> Front disc, right? It's a walk in the park. I never did brakes before and> after reading this, I had it done in 30 minutes... and I took my time.>
L . W . Hughes III 12 April 2005 03:51:09 [ permanent link ]
Hi Joe, If you haven't gone metal to metal, I just loosen the reservoir top, so when clasping the calipers, the fluid will have a place to go. Remove the two caliper retaining bolts, then use a clamping device like a large C clamp to push the piston "straight" (very important) back in, while it is still on the rotor, then pull the caliper and remove the pads. If you have to leave, find a place to balance the caliper so no weight will be on the flex hose, remembering how you did it so you put it back together with an extra twist. Some use silicone to dampen any squeal. Always use the a major brand of pads, like: http://www.raybestos.com/usa/brakepads.htm Pictures: http://www.allpar.com/fix/Brakes.html Factory Service Manual pages: http://www.billhughes.com/97TJfrontdisk.pdf Also remember how the anti squeal clips go, if they're still there: http://www.billhughes.com/WJCaliber.jpg God Bless America, Гџill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com GA wrote:>
Hello everyone,>
I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I would> ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking if> it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of any> kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think it> is?> What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership? (I> live in Ontario...)>
thanks for the info! I tried to go to your link for the factory service manual pages but it is broken. Any chance you could post it again?
Thanks, Joe.
"L.W. (Яill) Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net> wrote in message news:425B0D6D.6220CF1@cox.net...> Hi Joe,> If you haven't gone metal to metal, I just loosen the reservoir> top, so when clasping the calipers, the fluid will have a place to go.> Remove the two caliper retaining bolts, then use a clamping device like> a large C clamp to push the piston "straight" (very important) back in,> while it is still on the rotor, then pull the caliper and remove the> pads. If you have to leave, find a place to balance the caliper so no> weight will be on the flex hose, remembering how you did it so you put> it back together with an extra twist. Some use silicone to dampen any> squeal. Always use the a major brand of pads, like:> http://www.raybestos.com/usa/brakepads.htm Pictures:> http://www.allpar.com/fix/Brakes.html Factory Service Manual pages:> http://www.billhughes.com/97TJfrontdisk.pdf> Also remember how the anti squeal clips go, if they're still there:> http://www.billhughes.com/WJCaliber.jpg> God Bless America, Яill O|||||||O> mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com> GA wrote:> >
Hello everyone,> >
I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I
would> > ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking
it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of
kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think
is?> > What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership?
Oh sorry nevermind, it worked after I tried again...
Joe.
"GA" <gg@gg.ca> wrote in message news:8nE6e.2726$MZ2.438038@news20.bellglobal.com...> Hi Bill,>
thanks for the info! I tried to go to your link for the factory service> manual pages but it is broken. Any chance you could post it again?>
Thanks,> Joe.>
"L.W. (Яill) Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net> wrote in message> news:425B0D6D.6220CF1@cox.net...> > Hi Joe,> > If you haven't gone metal to metal, I just loosen the reservoir> > top, so when clasping the calipers, the fluid will have a place to go.> > Remove the two caliper retaining bolts, then use a clamping device like> > a large C clamp to push the piston "straight" (very important) back in,> > while it is still on the rotor, then pull the caliper and remove the> > pads. If you have to leave, find a place to balance the caliper so no> > weight will be on the flex hose, remembering how you did it so you put> > it back together with an extra twist. Some use silicone to dampen any> > squeal. Always use the a major brand of pads, like:> > http://www.raybestos.com/usa/brakepads.htm Pictures:> > http://www.allpar.com/fix/Brakes.html Factory Service Manual pages:> > http://www.billhughes.com/97TJfrontdisk.pdf> > Also remember how the anti squeal clips go, if they're still there:> > http://www.billhughes.com/WJCaliber.jpg> > God Bless America, Яill O|||||||O> > mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com> > GA wrote:> > >
Hello everyone,> > >
I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I> would> > > ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was
thinking> if> > > it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of> any> > > kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think> it> > > is?> > > What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership?> (I> > > live in Ontario...)> > >
There is no repacking of bearings... Any comments?
Thanks, Joe.
"B a r r y" <balsapilot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:eUD6e.563$bc2.23@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...> GA wrote:>> I checked with the dealership and they quoted me $500 (Canadian) for a>> complete front brake job...>
Define "complete".>
Are they replacing rotors and repacking bearings?>
There's "brake job" and "pad replacement", find out what you've been > quoted.>
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" 01 XJ Sport
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Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
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Yeah.. I agree.. I replaced my rotors and pads for about $60 total from the parts store... Lets see $350 for parts... Hmm.. If they bought them at retail.. That would be about a 500% mark up.... I would shop around or try to do it yourself...
Ben 95 YJ 2.5L
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message news:8JT6e.762$JJ2.374@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...> Rotors can cost about $30USD each and pads are $10-$30 for a set > ...depending.>
GA wrote:>
Ok I call them back and here is the breakdown...>>
- parts, rotors and pads, ~$350>> - labour ~$150>>
There is no repacking of bearings...>> Any comments?>>
Thanks,>> Joe.>>
"B a r r y" <balsapilot@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:eUD6e.563$bc2.23@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...>>
GA wrote:>>>
I checked with the dealership and they quoted me $500 (Canadian) for a>>>>complete front brake job...>>>
Define "complete".>>>
Are they replacing rotors and repacking bearings?>>>
There's "brake job" and "pad replacement", find out what you've been >>>quoted.>>>
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."> -- Dave Barry>
Pronunciation: 'jEp> Function: noun> Date: 1940>
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in> World War II.>
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Yeah.. I agree.. I replaced my rotors and pads for about $60 total from the> parts store... Lets see $350 for parts... Hmm.. If they bought them at> retail.. That would be about a 500% mark up.... I would shop around or try> to do it yourself...>
Joe... Seriously... Do It Yourself. It's easier than you'd think and the links posted walk you through it. n.
"GA" <gg@gg.ca> wrote in message news:4ZC6e.2650$MZ2.416180@news20.bellglobal.com...> Hello everyone,>
I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I would> ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking if> it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of any> kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think > it> is?> What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership? (I> live in Ontario...)>
I agree with everyone else, it is a 15 minute job per wheel once you know how to do it and 10 of them is taking the wheel on and off.
Unless your brakes are pulsating or gone 'fish scale' from metal on metal you do not need rotors. The groves will wear in just fine.
Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Nathan Otis wrote:>
Joe... Seriously... Do It Yourself. It's easier than you'd think and the> links posted walk you through it.> n.>
"GA" <gg@gg.ca> wrote in message> news:4ZC6e.2650$MZ2.416180@news20.bellglobal.com...> > Hello everyone,> >
I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I would> > ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking if> > it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of any> > kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think> > it> > is?> > What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership? (I> > live in Ontario...)> >
I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I would> ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking if> it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of any> kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think it> is?> What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership? (I> live in Ontario...)>
Thanks to all for your input.> Joe.
As most every one else has said, do it yourself. It's so easy a grade school dropout can do it. (and in some cases that's what your getting)
Although I replaced my rotors, I never did a writeup because it went so quickly.
The only thing I disagree with in the photos is he is pushing directly on the piston, you should press against the old pad to avoid bending the pistons thin metal.
Jeff Strickland 13 April 2005 04:09:49 [ permanent link ]
Go buy some brake pads for $50 (UDS) or less, and do the job yourself. If you have a buddy or a neighbor that is always working on this sort of stuff, ask him to help you learn how to do it yourself. It is really quite simple, but if you gotta ask, then you should probably be shown not told. The problem is, there are variables that could be important, but unless the instructor is there with you walking you through it, the variables might be missed and then you could be screwwed. What is worse is the guy in front of you can become an innocent victim of a simple mistake.
"GA" <gg@gg.ca> wrote in message news:3zD6e.2690$MZ2.425409@news20.bellglobal.com...> I checked with the dealership and they quoted me $500 (Canadian) for a> complete front brake job...>
Any input?> Thanks,> Joe.>
"GA" <gg@gg.ca> wrote in message> news:4ZC6e.2650$MZ2.416180@news20.bellglobal.com...> > Hello everyone,> >
I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I
would> > ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking
it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of
kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think> it> > is?> > What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership?
I just bevel the leading edge, but now many pads seem to come like that new. Also, rough them up against the pavement to deglaze them and make them bed in a bit faster...
I just bevel the leading edge, but now many pads seem to come like that new.> Also, rough them up against the pavement to deglaze them and make them bed> in a bit faster...
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