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Replace Front Brake on TJ

Ga 12 April 2005 02:35:42
 Hello everyone,

I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I would
ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking if
it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of any
kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think it
is?
What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership? (I
live in Ontario...)

Thanks to all for your input.
Joe.


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Ga 12 April 2005 03:16:08 permanent link ]
 I checked with the dealership and they quoted me $500 (Canadian) for a
complete front brake job...

Any input?
Thanks,
Joe.

"GA" <gg@gg.ca> wrote in message
news:4ZC6e.2650$MZ2­.416180@news20.bellg­lobal.com...> Hello everyone,>
I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I would> ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking if> it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of any> kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think
is?> What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership? (I> live in Ontario...)>
Thanks to all for your input.> Joe.>


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Nathan Otis 12 April 2005 03:23:07 permanent link ]
 Front disc, right? It's a walk in the park. I never did brakes before and
after reading this, I had it done in 30 minutes... and I took my time.

http://www.stu-offr­oad.com/suspension/f­rontbrake/frontbrake­s-1.htm

n.


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Endo 12 April 2005 03:32:59 permanent link ]
 I agree it's very easy. I read that article and it's very good. The part
that literally took the longest for me was the jacking and
removal/installatio­n of tires. And that was using a floor jack and a 4-way
wrench.

Shawn

"Nathan Otis" <na@smeat.spam.net>­ wrote in message
news:mFD6e.70$Fe5.2­632@news.uswest.net.­..> Front disc, right? It's a walk in the park. I never did brakes before and> after reading this, I had it done in 30 minutes... and I took my time.>
n.>


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B a r r y 12 April 2005 03:38:50 permanent link ]
 GA wrote:> I checked with the dealership and they quoted me $500 (Canadian) for a> complete front brake job...

Define "complete".

Are they replacing rotors and repacking bearings?

There's "brake job" and "pad replacement", find out what you've been quoted.

Barry
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L . W . Hughes III 12 April 2005 03:51:09 permanent link ]
 Hi Joe,
If you haven't gone metal to metal, I just loosen the reservoir
top, so when clasping the calipers, the fluid will have a place to go.
Remove the two caliper retaining bolts, then use a clamping device like
a large C clamp to push the piston "straight" (very important) back in,
while it is still on the rotor, then pull the caliper and remove the
pads. If you have to leave, find a place to balance the caliper so no
weight will be on the flex hose, remembering how you did it so you put
it back together with an extra twist. Some use silicone to dampen any
squeal. Always use the a major brand of pads, like:
http://www.raybesto­s.com/usa/brakepads.­htm Pictures:
http://www.allpar.c­om/fix/Brakes.html Factory Service Manual pages:
http://www.billhugh­es.com/97TJfrontdisk­.pdf
Also remember how the anti squeal clips go, if they're still there:
http://www.billhugh­es.com/WJCaliber.jpg­
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@­aol.com
GA wrote:>
Hello everyone,>
I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I would> ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking if> it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of any> kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think it> is?> What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership? (I> live in Ontario...)>
Thanks to all for your input.> Joe.
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Ga 12 April 2005 04:11:45 permanent link ]
 Hi Bill,

thanks for the info! I tried to go to your link for the factory service
manual pages but it is broken. Any chance you could post it again?

Thanks,
Joe.

"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net­> wrote in message
news:425B0D6D.6220C­F1@cox.net...> Hi Joe,> If you haven't gone metal to metal, I just loosen the reservoir> top, so when clasping the calipers, the fluid will have a place to go.> Remove the two caliper retaining bolts, then use a clamping device like> a large C clamp to push the piston "straight" (very important) back in,> while it is still on the rotor, then pull the caliper and remove the> pads. If you have to leave, find a place to balance the caliper so no> weight will be on the flex hose, remembering how you did it so you put> it back together with an extra twist. Some use silicone to dampen any> squeal. Always use the a major brand of pads, like:> http://www.raybesto­s.com/usa/brakepads.­htm Pictures:> http://www.allpar.c­om/fix/Brakes.html Factory Service Manual pages:> http://www.billhugh­es.com/97TJfrontdisk­.pdf> Also remember how the anti squeal clips go, if they're still there:> http://www.billhugh­es.com/WJCaliber.jpg­> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O> mailto:LWHughes3rd@­aol.com> GA wrote:> >
Hello everyone,> >
I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I
would> > ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking
it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of
kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think
is?> > What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership?
(I> > live in Ontario...)> >
Thanks to all for your input.> > Joe.


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Ga 12 April 2005 04:15:30 permanent link ]
 Oh sorry nevermind, it worked after I tried again...

Joe.

"GA" <gg@gg.ca> wrote in message
news:8nE6e.2726$MZ2­.438038@news20.bellg­lobal.com...> Hi Bill,>
thanks for the info! I tried to go to your link for the factory service> manual pages but it is broken. Any chance you could post it again?>
Thanks,> Joe.>
"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net­> wrote in message> news:425B0D6D.6220C­F1@cox.net...> > Hi Joe,> > If you haven't gone metal to metal, I just loosen the reservoir> > top, so when clasping the calipers, the fluid will have a place to go.> > Remove the two caliper retaining bolts, then use a clamping device like> > a large C clamp to push the piston "straight" (very important) back in,> > while it is still on the rotor, then pull the caliper and remove the> > pads. If you have to leave, find a place to balance the caliper so no> > weight will be on the flex hose, remembering how you did it so you put> > it back together with an extra twist. Some use silicone to dampen any> > squeal. Always use the a major brand of pads, like:> > http://www.raybesto­s.com/usa/brakepads.­htm Pictures:> > http://www.allpar.c­om/fix/Brakes.html Factory Service Manual pages:> > http://www.billhugh­es.com/97TJfrontdisk­.pdf> > Also remember how the anti squeal clips go, if they're still there:> > http://www.billhugh­es.com/WJCaliber.jpg­> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O> > mailto:LWHughes3rd@­aol.com> > GA wrote:> > >
Hello everyone,> > >
I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I> would> > > ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was
thinking> if> > > it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of> any> > > kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you
think> it> > > is?> > > What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership?> (I> > > live in Ontario...)> > >
Thanks to all for your input.> > > Joe.>


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Mike Romain 12 April 2005 17:41:14 permanent link ]
 No bearings to repack in a TJ, just some rotors that they will
needlessly rip him off for.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

B a r r y wrote:>
GA wrote:> > I checked with the dealership and they quoted me $500 (Canadian) for a> > complete front brake job...>
Define "complete".>
Are they replacing rotors and repacking bearings?>
There's "brake job" and "pad replacement", find out what you've been quoted.>
Barry
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Ga 12 April 2005 21:24:01 permanent link ]
 Ok I call them back and here is the breakdown...

- parts, rotors and pads, ~$350
- labour ~$150

There is no repacking of bearings...
Any comments?

Thanks,
Joe.

"B a r r y" <balsapilot@yahoo.c­om> wrote in message
news:eUD6e.563$bc2.­23@newssvr17.news.pr­odigy.com...> GA wrote:>> I checked with the dealership and they quoted me $500 (Canadian) for a>> complete front brake job...>
Define "complete".>
Are they replacing rotors and repacking bearings?>
There's "brake job" and "pad replacement", find out what you've been > quoted.>
Barry


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Jerry Bransford 12 April 2005 21:36:11 permanent link ]
 Rotors and pads for $350? Wow, they are just totally ripping you off.

GA wrote:
Ok I call them back and here is the breakdown...>
- parts, rotors and pads, ~$350>- labour ~$150>
There is no repacking of bearings...>Any comments?>
Thanks,>Joe.>
"B a r r y" <balsapilot@yahoo.c­om> wrote in message >news:eUD6e.563$bc2­.23@newssvr17.news.p­rodigy.com...>
GA wrote:>>
I checked with the dealership and they quoted me $500 (Canadian) for a>>>complete front brake job...>>>
Define "complete".>>
Are they replacing rotors and repacking bearings?>>
There's "brake job" and "pad replacement", find out what you've been >>quoted.>>
Barry >>

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Twaldron 12 April 2005 21:39:16 permanent link ]
 Rotors can cost about $30USD each and pads are $10-$30 for a set
...depending.

GA wrote:
Ok I call them back and here is the breakdown...>
- parts, rotors and pads, ~$350> - labour ~$150>
There is no repacking of bearings...> Any comments?>
Thanks,> Joe.>
"B a r r y" <balsapilot@yahoo.c­om> wrote in message > news:eUD6e.563$bc2.­23@newssvr17.news.pr­odigy.com...>
GA wrote:>>
I checked with the dealership and they quoted me $500 (Canadian) for a>>>complete front brake job...>>
Define "complete".>>
Are they replacing rotors and repacking bearings?>>
There's "brake job" and "pad replacement", find out what you've been >>quoted.>>
Barry


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Ben 13 April 2005 00:21:09 permanent link ]
 Yeah.. I agree.. I replaced my rotors and pads for about $60 total from the
parts store... Lets see $350 for parts... Hmm.. If they bought them at
retail.. That would be about a 500% mark up.... I would shop around or try
to do it yourself...

Ben
95 YJ 2.5L

"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubi­cons.com> wrote in message
news:8JT6e.762$JJ2.­374@newssvr12.news.p­rodigy.com...> Rotors can cost about $30USD each and pads are $10-$30 for a set > ...depending.>
GA wrote:>
Ok I call them back and here is the breakdown...>>
- parts, rotors and pads, ~$350>> - labour ~$150>>
There is no repacking of bearings...>> Any comments?>>
Thanks,>> Joe.>>
"B a r r y" <balsapilot@yahoo.c­om> wrote in message >> news:eUD6e.563$bc2.­23@newssvr17.news.pr­odigy.com...>>
GA wrote:>>>
I checked with the dealership and they quoted me $500 (Canadian) for a>>>>complete front brake job...>>>
Define "complete".>>>
Are they replacing rotors and repacking bearings?>>>
There's "brake job" and "pad replacement", find out what you've been >>>quoted.>>>
Barry>
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71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"> 01 XJ Sport>
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."> -- Dave Barry>
Pronunciation: 'jEp> Function: noun> Date: 1940>
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in> World War II.>
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L . W . Hughes III 13 April 2005 00:53:50 permanent link ]
 They didn't earn the name Stealership for nothing:
http://www.billhugh­es.com/WJCaliber.jpg­
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@­aol.com

Ben wrote:>
Yeah.. I agree.. I replaced my rotors and pads for about $60 total from the> parts store... Lets see $350 for parts... Hmm.. If they bought them at> retail.. That would be about a 500% mark up.... I would shop around or try> to do it yourself...>
95 YJ 2.5L
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Nathan Otis 13 April 2005 03:06:20 permanent link ]
 Joe... Seriously... Do It Yourself. It's easier than you'd think and the
links posted walk you through it.
n.

"GA" <gg@gg.ca> wrote in message
news:4ZC6e.2650$MZ2­.416180@news20.bellg­lobal.com...> Hello everyone,>
I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I would> ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking if> it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of any> kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think > it> is?> What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership? (I> live in Ontario...)>
Thanks to all for your input.> Joe.>


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Mike Romain 13 April 2005 03:20:34 permanent link ]
 I agree with everyone else, it is a 15 minute job per wheel once you
know how to do it and 10 of them is taking the wheel on and off.

Unless your brakes are pulsating or gone 'fish scale' from metal on
metal you do not need rotors. The groves will wear in just fine.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Nathan Otis wrote:>
Joe... Seriously... Do It Yourself. It's easier than you'd think and the> links posted walk you through it.> n.>
"GA" <gg@gg.ca> wrote in message> news:4ZC6e.2650$MZ2­.416180@news20.bellg­lobal.com...> > Hello everyone,> >
I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I would> > ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking if> > it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of any> > kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think> > it> > is?> > What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership? (I> > live in Ontario...)> >
Thanks to all for your input.> > Joe.> >
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DougW 13 April 2005 03:43:05 permanent link ]
 GA did pass the time by typing:> Hello everyone,>
I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I would> ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking if> it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of any> kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think it> is?> What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership? (I> live in Ontario...)>
Thanks to all for your input.> Joe.

As most every one else has said, do it yourself. It's so easy a grade
school dropout can do it. (and in some cases that's what your getting) :)­

Although I replaced my rotors, I never did a writeup because it went
so quickly.

Here is a link on Kolak's stillen upgrade for the grand (same thing I did
to my ZJ)
http://www.nagca.co­m/grandtech/stillenz­jbrakeupgrade.htm

The only thing I disagree with in the photos is he is pushing directly
on the piston, you should press against the old pad to avoid bending the
pistons thin metal.

--
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HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!


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Jeff Strickland 13 April 2005 04:09:49 permanent link ]
 Go buy some brake pads for $50 (UDS) or less, and do the job yourself. If
you have a buddy or a neighbor that is always working on this sort of stuff,
ask him to help you learn how to do it yourself. It is really quite simple,
but if you gotta ask, then you should probably be shown not told. The
problem is, there are variables that could be important, but unless the
instructor is there with you walking you through it, the variables might be
missed and then you could be screwwed. What is worse is the guy in front of
you can become an innocent victim of a simple mistake.




"GA" <gg@gg.ca> wrote in message
news:3zD6e.2690$MZ2­.425409@news20.bellg­lobal.com...> I checked with the dealership and they quoted me $500 (Canadian) for a> complete front brake job...>
Any input?> Thanks,> Joe.>
"GA" <gg@gg.ca> wrote in message> news:4ZC6e.2650$MZ2­.416180@news20.bellg­lobal.com...> > Hello everyone,> >
I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I
would> > ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking
it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of
kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think> it> > is?> > What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership?
(I> > live in Ontario...)> >
Thanks to all for your input.> > Joe.> >


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Dave Milne 13 April 2005 15:45:40 permanent link ]
 I just bevel the leading edge, but now many pads seem to come like that new.
Also, rough them up against the pavement to deglaze them and make them bed
in a bit faster...

"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net­> wrote in message
news:425B0D6D.6220C­F1@cox.net...> Hi Joe,
Some use silicone to dampen any> squeal. Always use the a major brand of pads, like:> http://www.raybesto­s.com/usa/brakepads.­htm Pictures:> http://www.allpar.c­om/fix/Brakes.html Factory Service Manual pages:> http://www.billhugh­es.com/97TJfrontdisk­.pdf> Also remember how the anti squeal clips go, if they're still there:> http://www.billhugh­es.com/WJCaliber.jpg­> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O> mailto:LWHughes3rd@­aol.com


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L . W . Hughes III 13 April 2005 23:16:42 permanent link ]
 Bingo.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@­aol.com http://www.billhugh­es.com/

Dave Milne wrote:>
I just bevel the leading edge, but now many pads seem to come like that new.> Also, rough them up against the pavement to deglaze them and make them bed> in a bit faster...
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