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CarGuru > Jeep Willys > XJ brake UPDATE 6 April 2005 03:26:01

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XJ brake UPDATE

Carl Saiyed 1 April 2005 05:33:47
 Just to be clear.. I wasnt trying to suck the fluid out of the lines with
the vacuum, just out of the resevior. I cleaned out the rear brakes and
drums with a hose and brake cleaner, it was pretty dirty in there. I noticed
that my shoes are a little thin, despite being reasonably new. There is also
a ridge formed in the passenger side front shoe. I'll be replacing the shoes
soon. I bled and bled and bled the brakes untill the fluid came out clean,
and stayed clean in the resevor.

I had a very hard time bleeding the passenger side, I think I need a new
bleeder bolt. Common part?

Anyway, the brakes are MUCH better now, but I still need to replace those
shoes soon to be safe. Tips for replacing shoes?

Carl


"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.­net> wrote in message
news:D­NOdnbrGA8kLrN­HfRVn-sQ@ez2.net...>­ I don't think you did a good thing there, Carl.>
I can't imagine any brake work that would go smoothly if the brake fluid
sucked out instead of pushed through. I am not sure, but I suspect you
have> set up a faliure that would also result if you had replaced the master> cylinder but failed to perform a procedure called Bench Bleeding. Failure
bench bleed will definitely result in having air in the system, and air
will> lead to a mushy brake pedal and weak brakes.>
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEh­otmail.com> wrote in message> news:424bf93a_3@new­sfeed.slurp.net...> > I put the nozzle in the top of the master and just did the resevior..> >
Carl> >


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Drifter 1 April 2005 07:10:07 permanent link ]
 On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 17:33:47 -0800, "Carl Saiyed"
<carlsaiyed@REMOVEh­otmail.com> wrote:
Just to be clear.. I wasnt trying to suck the fluid out of the lines with>the vacuum, just out of the resevior. I cleaned out the rear brakes and>drums with a hose and brake cleaner, it was pretty dirty in there. I noticed>that my shoes are a little thin, despite being reasonably new. There is also>a ridge formed in the passenger side front shoe. I'll be replacing the shoes>soon. I bled and bled and bled the brakes untill the fluid came out clean,>and stayed clean in the resevor.>
I had a very hard time bleeding the passenger side, I think I need a new>bleeder bolt. Common part?>
Anyway, the brakes are MUCH better now, but I still need to replace those>shoes soon to be safe. Tips for replacing shoes?

When you take the old ones off pay attention to which one goes where.
I didn't ONE time and reversed the shoes. The "grabby" brakes that
resulted were enough to remind me for ever after.

Experience is the name we give our mistakes <grin>.


Drifter
"I've been here, I've been there..."
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Mike Romain 1 April 2005 18:01:14 permanent link ]
 Just do one side at a time because there are right and left parts in
there.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Carl Saiyed wrote:>
Just to be clear.. I wasnt trying to suck the fluid out of the lines with> the vacuum, just out of the resevior. I cleaned out the rear brakes and> drums with a hose and brake cleaner, it was pretty dirty in there. I noticed> that my shoes are a little thin, despite being reasonably new. There is also> a ridge formed in the passenger side front shoe. I'll be replacing the shoes> soon. I bled and bled and bled the brakes untill the fluid came out clean,> and stayed clean in the resevor.>
I had a very hard time bleeding the passenger side, I think I need a new> bleeder bolt. Common part?>
Anyway, the brakes are MUCH better now, but I still need to replace those> shoes soon to be safe. Tips for replacing shoes?>
Carl>
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.­net> wrote in message> news:D­NOdnbrGA8kLrN­HfRVn-sQ@ez2.net...>­ > I don't think you did a good thing there, Carl.> >
I can't imagine any brake work that would go smoothly if the brake fluid> was> > sucked out instead of pushed through. I am not sure, but I suspect you> have> > set up a faliure that would also result if you had replaced the master> > cylinder but failed to perform a procedure called Bench Bleeding. Failure> to> > bench bleed will definitely result in having air in the system, and air> will> > lead to a mushy brake pedal and weak brakes.> >
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEh­otmail.com> wrote in message> > news:424bf93a_3@new­sfeed.slurp.net...> > > I put the nozzle in the top of the master and just did the resevior..> > >
Carl> > >
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Jeff Strickland 1 April 2005 22:13:19 permanent link ]
 I wasn't dreaming - nightmare really - that you were sucking the brake fluid
out of the lines. I was worried that you sucked the fluid out of the
reservior and got air in it, then trapped the air in the brake system by
refilling the reservior.

I have never heard of anybody using a vac to empty the reservior.






"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEh­otmail.com> wrote in message
news:424ca561$1_2@n­ewsfeed.slurp.net...­> Just to be clear.. I wasnt trying to suck the fluid out of the lines with> the vacuum, just out of the resevior. I cleaned out the rear brakes and> drums with a hose and brake cleaner, it was pretty dirty in there. I
noticed> that my shoes are a little thin, despite being reasonably new. There is
also> a ridge formed in the passenger side front shoe. I'll be replacing the
shoes> soon. I bled and bled and bled the brakes untill the fluid came out clean,> and stayed clean in the resevor.>
I had a very hard time bleeding the passenger side, I think I need a new> bleeder bolt. Common part?>
Anyway, the brakes are MUCH better now, but I still need to replace those> shoes soon to be safe. Tips for replacing shoes?>
Carl>
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.­net> wrote in message> news:D­NOdnbrGA8kLrN­HfRVn-sQ@ez2.net...>­ > I don't think you did a good thing there, Carl.> >
I can't imagine any brake work that would go smoothly if the brake fluid> was> > sucked out instead of pushed through. I am not sure, but I suspect you> have> > set up a faliure that would also result if you had replaced the master> > cylinder but failed to perform a procedure called Bench Bleeding.
Failure> to> > bench bleed will definitely result in having air in the system, and air> will> > lead to a mushy brake pedal and weak brakes.> >
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEh­otmail.com> wrote in message> > news:424bf93a_3@new­sfeed.slurp.net...> > > I put the nozzle in the top of the master and just did the resevior..> > >
Carl> > >


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Kevin in San Diego 2 April 2005 04:41:49 permanent link ]
 How do you then clean the shop vac? Sounds messy.
KH


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Carl Saiyed 2 April 2005 13:02:54 permanent link ]
 Suck up some water when you are done ;-)­

Carl

"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yah­oospam.com> wrote in message
news:iTl3e.39$Ut1.2­5@fed1read01...> How do you then clean the shop vac? Sounds messy.> KH>


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Wkearney99 4 April 2005 18:05:27 permanent link ]
 
I have never heard of anybody using a vac to empty the reservior.

Yeah, me neither. Way too f'ing messy to clean up afterwards. Sure, it'd
work but the brake fluid's not water soluable so clean up would be really
bad. That and since it'd never get clean you'd have the fluid collecting
all sorts of added gunk in the hose the next time you used it for anything
dry.

A old turkey baster is usually a lot simpler. Safer too in that you've got
a better chance to avoid contaminating the reservoir. That and it's a
heckuva lot cheaper than the solvent to clean and the eventual replacement
cost of the vac hose. But hey, to each his own.

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L . W . Hughes III 4 April 2005 23:26:25 permanent link ]
 Is that why my wife bought me a shop vacuum, she got tired of the
Thanksgiving turkey tasting like brake fluid.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@­aol.com http://www.billhugh­es.com/

wkearney99 wrote:>
Yeah, me neither. Way too f'ing messy to clean up afterwards. Sure, it'd> work but the brake fluid's not water soluable so clean up would be really> bad. That and since it'd never get clean you'd have the fluid collecting> all sorts of added gunk in the hose the next time you used it for anything> dry.>
A old turkey baster is usually a lot simpler. Safer too in that you've got> a better chance to avoid contaminating the reservoir. That and it's a> heckuva lot cheaper than the solvent to clean and the eventual replacement> cost of the vac hose. But hey, to each his own.
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Jeff Strickland 5 April 2005 01:19:03 permanent link ]
 
"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net­> wrote in message
news:425194E1.18A10­D0@cox.net...> Is that why my wife bought me a shop vacuum, she got tired of the> Thanksgiving turkey tasting like brake fluid.


Kitchen gadgets that make it to the garage are not allowed back in the
kitchen, this keeps the turkey pure.


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L . W . Hughes III 5 April 2005 01:55:04 permanent link ]
 They don't call it fowl for nothing. Thank God for ham! And tell me
again you don't sneak something out there, I need another laugh.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@­aol.com http://www.billhugh­es.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:>
Kitchen gadgets that make it to the garage are not allowed back in the> kitchen, this keeps the turkey pure.
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Jeff Strickland 6 April 2005 03:26:01 permanent link ]
 Seriously, the stuff from the kitchen makes a one-way trip. The Mrs. will
come out every so often and say, "So, that's where it went." If she really
wants it back, she takes it, but then I can claim that the turkey is
supposed to taste that way.




"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net­> wrote in message
news:4251B7B8.5EA7E­6D3@cox.net...> They don't call it fowl for nothing. Thank God for ham! And tell me> again you don't sneak something out there, I need another laugh.> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O> mailto:LWHughes3rd@­aol.com http://www.billhugh­es.com/>
Jeff Strickland wrote:> >
Kitchen gadgets that make it to the garage are not allowed back in the> > kitchen, this keeps the turkey pure.


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L . W . Hughes III 6 April 2005 04:20:34 permanent link ]
 Good for you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@­aol.com http://www.billhugh­es.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:>
Seriously, the stuff from the kitchen makes a one-way trip. The Mrs. will> come out every so often and say, "So, that's where it went." If she really> wants it back, she takes it, but then I can claim that the turkey is> supposed to taste that way.
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