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NY auto show pics
Kevin_S 24 March 2005 20:33:44
	New Jeep Commander (ick!) http://new-york-auto-show.autoblog.com/entry/1234000963037258/ Jeep GC SRT-8 (kinda cool, but probably worthless off-road) http://new-york-auto-show.autoblog.com/entry/1234000863037255/
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L . W . Hughes III 24 March 2005 23:46:36 [ permanent link ]
	Thanks for the picture. The Cherokee with it's twenty inch rims and spoiler qualifies for my Low Rider Page: http://billhughes.com/lowrider.htm God Bless America, Гџill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com Kevin_S wrote:> New Jeep Commander (ick!)> http://new-york-auto-show.autoblog.com/entry/1234000963037258/> Jeep GC SRT-8 (kinda cool, but probably worthless off-road)> http://new-york-auto-show.autoblog.com/entry/1234000863037255/
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Pi-eyed Piper 24 March 2005 23:56:44 [ permanent link ]
	I'm really not a fan of that commander, they say that it's competition for the hummer....looks more like a full size subaru forrester. "Kevin_S" <ksperle@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1111682024.242630.160550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...> New Jeep Commander (ick!)> http://new-york-auto-show.autoblog.com/entry/1234000963037258/> Jeep GC SRT-8 (kinda cool, but probably worthless off-road)> http://new-york-auto-show.autoblog.com/entry/1234000863037255/>
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Kevin_S 25 March 2005 00:12:59 [ permanent link ]
	I would buy the ST-8 as a grocery getter, but not to off-road. If I had that kind of $$, which I don't. Guess I'll havev to stick to the XJ. The commander is U-G-L-Y.....
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L . W . Hughes III 25 March 2005 00:44:07 [ permanent link ]
	I don't see a market for the ST-8. Daimler doesn't have a utility vehicle like the Land Rover where ugly is not a factor, but ability is, so the Commander may save their a**. God Bless America, Гџill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Kevin_S wrote:> I would buy the ST-8 as a grocery getter, but not to off-road. If I> had that kind of $$, which I don't. Guess I'll havev to stick to the> XJ.> The commander is U-G-L-Y.....
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Steve 25 March 2005 00:47:56 [ permanent link ]
	Kevin_S wrote:> New Jeep Commander (ick!)> http://new-york-auto-show.autoblog.com/entry/1234000963037258/ Actually, it's refreshing to see a body designed for function instead of slavishly following latest faddish future-fantasy 'look'. Yes, it's a big friggin box, but it fits three-row tiered seating without significantly bloating the wheelbase and overall dimensions of a Grand. Returning to utility is a good direction for Jeep. Unfortunately, the performance design priority is for car-like handling and ride comfort (marginal ground clearance, independent front suspension, electronic anti-roll crap). Not much of an offroader and therefore not much of a Jeep. Still, they'll sell a pile of these in suburbia. http://macleans.auto123.com/en/info/news/news,view.spy?artid=38056&pg=7 Jeep GC SRT-8 (kinda cool, but probably worthless off-road)> http://new-york-auto-show.autoblog.com/entry/1234000863037255/ ick!
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Steve 25 March 2005 00:48:13 [ permanent link ]
	... like it was made for your page. Steve http://xjeep.dyndns.org L.W.(Гџill) Hughes III wrote:> The Cherokee with it's twenty inch rims and> spoiler qualifies for my Low Rider Page:> http://billhughes.com/lowrider.htm
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Steve 25 March 2005 00:48:25 [ permanent link ]
	Commander is competition for Suburban, Armada, Expedition, et al. Meant to look like an XJ crossed with a Land Rover. The Rescue concept was aimed at the Hummer H2. Actual H3 competitor will probably be Gladiator and variants thereof. Steve http://xjeep.dyndns.org Pi-eyed Piper wrote:> I'm really not a fan of that commander, they say that it's competition for> the hummer....looks more like a full size subaru forrester.> "Kevin_S" <ksperle@hotmail.com> wrote in message> news:1111682024.242630.160550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...> New Jeep Commander (ick!)>>http://new-york-auto-show.autoblog.com/entry/1234000963037258/>> Jeep GC SRT-8 (kinda cool, but probably worthless off-road)>>http://new-york-auto-show.autoblog.com/entry/1234000863037255/
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L . W . Hughes III 25 March 2005 00:54:18 [ permanent link ]
	Well at least the people are used to not being able the use the sidewalk as a wheel stop. I remember that was a complete surprise to me in my new '84 Thunderbird. God Bless America, Гџill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Steve wrote:> ... like it was made for your page.> Steve> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
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Twaldron 25 March 2005 01:17:06 [ permanent link ]
	They beat the XJ with an Ugly Stick!!! Kevin_S wrote:> New Jeep Commander (ick!)> http://new-york-auto-show.autoblog.com/entry/1234000963037258/ -- ___________________________________________________________ tw 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) ___________________________________________________________
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L . W . Hughes III 25 March 2005 01:32:01 [ permanent link ]
	It doesn't look any worse than Ford's Land Rover: http://a904.g.akamai.net/7/904/506/v0011/images.autobytel.com/view/aic/LANDROVER/RANGEROVER/spe/usa_2005_landrover_rangerover_spe_4_x_exfrdrvr75_x.jpg God Bless America, Гџill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ twaldron wrote:> They beat the XJ with an Ugly Stick!!!> ___________________________________________________________> tw> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"> 01 XJ Sport
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Pi-eyed Piper 25 March 2005 01:47:24 [ permanent link ]
	motortrend said it'll be competition for the hummer "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message news:3agncpF6998poU3@individual.net...> Commander is competition for Suburban, Armada, Expedition, et al. Meant> to look like an XJ crossed with a Land Rover. The Rescue concept was> aimed at the Hummer H2. Actual H3 competitor will probably be Gladiator> and variants thereof.> Steve> http://xjeep.dyndns.org> Pi-eyed Piper wrote:> > I'm really not a fan of that commander, they say that it's competition the hummer....looks more like a full size subaru forrester.> > "Kevin_S" <ksperle@hotmail.com> wrote in message> > news:1111682024.242630.160550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...> > New Jeep Commander (ick!)> >>http://new-york-auto-show.autoblog.com/entry/1234000963037258/> >> Jeep GC SRT-8 (kinda cool, but probably worthless off-road)> >>http://new-york-auto-show.autoblog.com/entry/1234000863037255/
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Pi-eyed Piper 25 March 2005 01:48:37 [ permanent link ]
	still, it's about the most boring "new" design I've ever scene "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message news:3agnbsF6998poU1@individual.net...> Kevin_S wrote:> > New Jeep Commander (ick!)> > http://new-york-auto-show.autoblog.com/entry/1234000963037258/> Actually, it's refreshing to see a body designed for function instead of> slavishly following latest faddish future-fantasy 'look'. Yes, it's a> big friggin box, but it fits three-row tiered seating without> significantly bloating the wheelbase and overall dimensions of a Grand.> Returning to utility is a good direction for Jeep. Unfortunately, the> performance design priority is for car-like handling and ride comfort> (marginal ground clearance, independent front suspension, electronic> anti-roll crap). Not much of an offroader and therefore not much of a> Jeep. Still, they'll sell a pile of these in suburbia.> http://macleans.auto123.com/en/info/news/news,view.spy?artid=38056&pg=7> Jeep GC SRT-8 (kinda cool, but probably worthless off-road)> > http://new-york-auto-show.autoblog.com/entry/1234000863037255/> ick!
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L . W . Hughes III 25 March 2005 02:12:52 [ permanent link ]
	Daimler, came closer to ripping off the American Motors' design with their Rescue Concept: http://jeepin.com/news/rescue/index.asp God Bless America, Гџill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Pi-eyed Piper wrote:> motortrend said it'll be competition for the hummer
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Pi-eyed Piper 25 March 2005 02:24:12 [ permanent link ]
	that looks tough at least.. The "commander" doesn't command much "L.W. (Яill) Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net> wrote in message news:42433B64.F2ACBF34@cox.net...> Daimler, came closer to ripping off the American Motors' design> with their Rescue Concept: http://jeepin.com/news/rescue/index.asp> God Bless America, Яill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O> mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/> Pi-eyed Piper wrote:> > motortrend said it'll be competition for the hummer
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Markus Baertschi 25 March 2005 02:55:14 [ permanent link ]
	L.W.(Гџill) Hughes III wrote:> I don't see a market for the ST-8.> Daimler doesn't have a utility vehicle like the Land Rover where> ugly is not a factor, but ability is, so the Commander may save their> a**. Daimler has the G-Class since thirty years. These are very capable vehicles very much in the same class as the LandRover Defender. http://www.g4rce.net/engl/ The Commander is ugly, very much so I'm afraid... Markus
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Twaldron 25 March 2005 03:00:30 [ permanent link ]
	I actually LIKE the Rescue. L.W.(Гџill) Hughes III wrote: Daimler, came closer to ripping off the American Motors' design> with their Rescue Concept: http://jeepin.com/news/rescue/index.asp > God Bless America, Гџill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O> mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/> Pi-eyed Piper wrote:> motortrend said it'll be competition for the hummer -- ___________________________________________________________ tw 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) ___________________________________________________________
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L . W . Hughes III 25 March 2005 03:12:07 [ permanent link ]
	Great, a hundred thousand dollar Samurai: http://www.mbusa.com/brand/container.jsp?/models/class_overview.jsp&modelCode=g_class_main God Bless America, Гџill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Markus Baertschi wrote:> Daimler has the G-Class since thirty years. These are very capable> vehicles very much in the same class as the LandRover Defender.> http://www.g4rce.net/engl/> The Commander is ugly, very much so I'm afraid...> Markus
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L . W . Hughes III 25 March 2005 03:24:37 [ permanent link ]
	But remember the concept car Matt M. took a pictures of, they didn't even finish the suspension, leaving the shock mount to hold the weight of the car: http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/newsshorts/04january/naias/display.asp?photo=jeep_rescue/DSCN8219.jpg Even your silly TJ puts the coil mount on top of the axle. God Bless America, Гџill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ twaldron wrote:> I actually LIKE the Rescue.> ___________________________________________________________> tw> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"> 01 XJ Sport
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HarryS 25 March 2005 04:05:16 [ permanent link ]
	My question is who can afford them it appears DC is not looking at the blue collar workers and they are servicing the higher end dufaces who just buy them for bragging rights. Also, they would not know what off roading is let alone even attempt to do it. DC is making more grocery getters instead of work vehicles. -- HarryS My 2ў "L.W. ("Яill") Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net> wrote in message news:42434C35.B9D255DF@cox.net... \| But remember the concept car Matt M. took a pictures of, they \| didn't even finish the suspension, leaving the shock mount to hold the \| weight of the car: \| http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/newsshorts/04january/naias/display.asp?photo=jeep_rescue/DSCN8219.jpg \| Even your silly TJ puts the coil mount on top of the axle. \| God Bless America, Яill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O \| mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ \| \| twaldron wrote: \| > \| > I actually LIKE the Rescue. \| > ___________________________________________________________ \| > tw \| > \| > 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco \| > 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" \| > 01 XJ Sport
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Derrick Hudson 25 March 2005 04:30:02 [ permanent link ]
	On 24 Mar 2005 08:33:44 -0800, Kevin_S wrote:> New Jeep Commander (ick!)> http://new-york-auto-show.autoblog.com/entry/1234000963037258/> Jeep GC SRT-8 (kinda cool, but probably worthless off-road)> http://new-york-auto-show.autoblog.com/entry/1234000863037255/ DC ought to axe those wannabes and not forget what "Jeep" means. I'm glad I got my TJ now, before the rumors say it will be killed. The Gladiator actually looks decent, but could use a little more traditional (CJ) style front-end. If its production matches the concept then it could replace my pickup when it dies of old age. Forget the H3, the Gladiator appears to be a decent alternative to having a Wrangler and a pickup, but not a replacement for the CJ/Wrangler heritage. Well, if DC can't stick with "Jeep" then there will be a perfect opportunity for someone to start up a "specialty" automobile manufacturer to produce Real J**Ps. -D -- All a man's ways seem innocent to him, but motives are weighed by the Lord. Proverbs 16:2 www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org
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L . W . Hughes III 25 March 2005 05:18:12 [ permanent link ]
	Well, my Governor has twelve of them: http://www.billhughes.com/Schwarzenegger.jpg God Bless America, Гџill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com HarryS wrote:> My question is who can afford them it appears DC is not looking at the blue> collar workers and they are servicing the higher end dufaces who just buy> them for bragging rights. Also, they would not know what off roading is let> alone even attempt to do it. DC is making more grocery getters instead of> work vehicles.> --> HarryS My 2Вў
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Twaldron 25 March 2005 17:29:01 [ permanent link ]
	LOL! Oh, yeah...maybe they're just REALLY strong shocks. ;) L.W.(Гџill) Hughes III wrote: But remember the concept car Matt M. took a pictures of, they> didn't even finish the suspension, leaving the shock mount to hold the> weight of the car:> http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/newsshorts/04january/naias/display.asp?photo=jeep_rescue/DSCN8219.jpg> Even your silly TJ puts the coil mount on top of the axle.> God Bless America, Гџill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O> mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/> twaldron wrote:> I actually LIKE the Rescue.>>___________________________________________________________>>tw -- ___________________________________________________________ tw 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) ___________________________________________________________
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Dave Milne 1 April 2005 16:36:43 [ permanent link ]
	Nah, they are active suspension air struts Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message news:xmU0e.2781$c76.251@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...> LOL! Oh, yeah...maybe they're just REALLY strong shocks. ;)> L.W.(Яill) Hughes III wrote:> But remember the concept car Matt M. took a pictures of, they> > didn't even finish the suspension, leaving the shock mount to hold the> > weight of the car:> > http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/newsshorts/04january/naias/display.asp?photo=jeep_rescue/DSCN8219.jpg> > Even your silly TJ puts the coil mount on top of the axle.> > God Bless America, Яill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O> > mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/> > twaldron wrote:> > I actually LIKE the Rescue.> >>___________________________________________________________> >>tw> -- > ___________________________________________________________> tw> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"> 01 XJ Sport> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."> -- Dave Barry> Pronunciation: 'jEp> Function: noun> Date: 1940> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in> World War II.> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)> ___________________________________________________________
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