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Gas milage
Dirty Ditch Dawg 21 March 2005 19:14:02
	went for a 300 mile trip over the mountains, this weekend, when i first got my 90YJ i was getting 21mpg, (300 miles a tank) 14gal. put in a power steering pump, gas milage went to 17mpg (around 250 a tank.) this trip, 14mpg (220 miles a tank.) same tires, new plugs,distributer wires, havnt done anything to motor except the alternator trouble a few weeks ago, any ideas? thanks, johnp be nice to get back up to 18-20mpg,
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Paw 21 March 2005 19:31:08 [ permanent link ]
	i wish i could help you..... my mpg for the 98 cherokee went from 17 city driving to 12.5 city driving over the last 2 months.... waiting til warmer weather to root around... no idea as to why... "Dirty Ditch Dawg" <DirtyDitchDawg@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1111418042.480502.70230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...> went for a 300 mile trip over the mountains, this weekend,> when i first got my 90YJ i was getting 21mpg, (300 miles a tank) 14gal.> put in a power steering pump,> gas milage went to 17mpg (around 250 a tank.)> this trip,> 14mpg (220 miles a tank.)> same tires, new plugs,distributer wires,> havnt done anything to motor except the alternator trouble a few weeks> ago,> any ideas?> thanks,> johnp> be nice to get back up to 18-20mpg,>
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Xs11e 21 March 2005 20:56:36 [ permanent link ]
	"Paw" <p@p.com> wrote in news:St2dnWvzP-EqdaPfRVn-jA@comcast.com: i wish i could help you..... my mpg for the 98 cherokee went from> 17 city driving to 12.5 city driving over the last 2 months....> waiting til warmer weather to root around... no idea as to why... Throw in a new set of spark plugs and see what happens. Test the plug wires* and replace them if needed. *Easy plug wire test: open hood on a dark night with the engine running, the fuzzy blue glow and arcs around the plug wires is NOT a good thing!
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Danny 22 March 2005 01:02:27 [ permanent link ]
	XS11E wrote:> "Paw" <p@p.com> wrote in news:St2dnWvzP-EqdaPfRVn-jA@comcast.com:> i wish i could help you..... my mpg for the 98 cherokee went from>>17 city driving to 12.5 city driving over the last 2 months....>>waiting til warmer weather to root around... no idea as to why...> Throw in a new set of spark plugs and see what happens. Test the plug > wires* and replace them if needed.> *Easy plug wire test: open hood on a dark night with the engine > running, the fuzzy blue glow and arcs around the plug wires is NOT a > good thing!> I had a look at my '97 cherokee 4.0l and can't see how to take no:1 plug out without removing anything else. It looks tight in there behind the alternator or compressor (I can't remember which). -- Regards, Danny http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site) http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service) http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar Gold blend) swap Z for above characters in email address to reply
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ElAlumbrado 22 March 2005 01:26:00 [ permanent link ]
	"Paw" <p@p.com> wrote i wish i could help you..... my mpg for the 98 cherokee went from 17 >city driving to 12.5 city driving over the last 2 months.... waiting >til warmer weather to root around... no idea as to why... I have a 4-cylinder 2001 Wrangler that has have never gotten more than 15mpg on it's best day. I love the Wrangler, but this little engine is so underpowered that it works flat-out at highway speeds (which in this vehicle max-out at about 65-70 on flat ground with no headwind). My advice to prospective Wrangler owners is to buy the 6-cylinder. The I-4 is fine for around-town driving, but it is just not enough engine for this vehicle if you ever plan to use it on the highway. El Alumbrado "Civis Texanus Sum"
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Xs11e 22 March 2005 02:20:07 [ permanent link ]
	Danny <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote in news:3a8qjiF63fiu0U2@individual.net: I had a look at my '97 cherokee 4.0l and can't see how to take> no:1 plug out without removing anything else. It looks tight in> there behind the alternator or compressor (I can't remember> which). That's why they make TNT, it'll take out the plug! Seriously, I drive a Grand Cherokee V8, I traded in my Wagoneer 4.0 for it some years back and I honestly can't recall where the plugs are on the six. If it's behind the compressor, it's possible that you can fool around with extensions and "U" joints to reach it maybe? One other trick that sometimes works on plugs that are hidden is to use the old type sheet metal wrench thingy that has the holes in the side where you stick a screwdriver to turn it, they sometimes fit where sockets won't.
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L . W . Hughes III 22 March 2005 02:56:55 [ permanent link ]
	Some ideas: http://www.billhughes.com/sparksocket.jpg God Bless America, Гџill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com Danny wrote:> I had a look at my '97 cherokee 4.0l and can't see how to take no:1> plug out without removing anything else. It looks tight in there> behind the alternator or compressor (I can't remember which).> --> Regards,> Danny> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)> http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar> Gold blend)> swap Z for above characters in email address to reply
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Paw 22 March 2005 03:11:05 [ permanent link ]
	It's tight, but they're all accessible w/out removing anything. Pic by bill is correct. "Danny" <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote in message news:3a8qjiF63fiu0U2@individual.net...> XS11E wrote:>> "Paw" <p@p.com> wrote in news:St2dnWvzP-EqdaPfRVn-jA@comcast.com:>> i wish i could help you..... my mpg for the 98 cherokee went from>>>17 city driving to 12.5 city driving over the last 2 months....>>>waiting til warmer weather to root around... no idea as to why...>> Throw in a new set of spark plugs and see what happens. Test the plug >> wires* and replace them if needed.>> *Easy plug wire test: open hood on a dark night with the engine running, >> the fuzzy blue glow and arcs around the plug wires is NOT a good thing!>> I had a look at my '97 cherokee 4.0l and can't see how to take no:1 plug > out without removing anything else. It looks tight in there behind the > alternator or compressor (I can't remember which).> -- > Regards,> Danny> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)> http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar Gold > blend)> swap Z for above characters in email address to reply>
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David Rhodes 22 March 2005 03:40:25 [ permanent link ]
	I have a 02 Wrangler Sport with the straight 6 and I was only getting about 12.2 mpg on combined city and hwy driving mostly to work. I replaced the air filter for the first time at 32K miles and now get 14.15 mpg doing the same type of driving. It is only supposed to get 15-17 anyway, but has never done that from the day I bought it almost 3 years ago. David "Dirty Ditch Dawg" <DirtyDitchDawg@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1111418042.480502.70230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...> went for a 300 mile trip over the mountains, this weekend,> when i first got my 90YJ i was getting 21mpg, (300 miles a tank) 14gal.> put in a power steering pump,> gas milage went to 17mpg (around 250 a tank.)> this trip,> 14mpg (220 miles a tank.)> same tires, new plugs,distributer wires,> havnt done anything to motor except the alternator trouble a few weeks> ago,> any ideas?> thanks,> johnp> be nice to get back up to 18-20mpg,>
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L . W . Hughes III 22 March 2005 03:49:48 [ permanent link ]
	Have you performed the normal maintenance: http://www.billhughes.com/lubeschedule.pdf God Bless America, Гџill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:> went for a 300 mile trip over the mountains, this weekend,> when i first got my 90YJ i was getting 21mpg, (300 miles a tank) 14gal.> put in a power steering pump,> gas milage went to 17mpg (around 250 a tank.)> this trip,> 14mpg (220 miles a tank.)> same tires, new plugs,distributer wires,> havnt done anything to motor except the alternator trouble a few weeks> ago,> any ideas?> thanks,> johnp> be nice to get back up to 18-20mpg,
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DougW 22 March 2005 04:19:04 [ permanent link ]
	Danny did pass the time by typing: I had a look at my '97 cherokee 4.0l and can't see how to take no:1> plug out without removing anything else. It looks tight in there> behind the alternator or compressor (I can't remember which). Depends on the year but either one or the other is in the way. You need a spark plug socket with the rubber insert removed and a wobble adapter then a 3" extension. To remove the boot use a boot puller (T looking doodad) that hooks around the boot. Fitting the plug back in is easier if you push a bit of hose over the plug then use that as a handle to start it in. -- DougW
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David Rhodes 22 March 2005 04:19:15 [ permanent link ]
	I have had the oil changes and lubes. I have not done the 30K spark plug replacement yet nor drained the trans. Everything else is done. I also need to get the tires rotated again. David "L.W. ("Яill") Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net> wrote in message news:423F5D9C.EEA8E3D7@cox.net...> Have you performed the normal maintenance:> http://www.billhughes.com/lubeschedule.pdf> God Bless America, Яill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O> mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com> Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:>> went for a 300 mile trip over the mountains, this weekend,>> when i first got my 90YJ i was getting 21mpg, (300 miles a tank) 14gal.>> put in a power steering pump,>> gas milage went to 17mpg (around 250 a tank.)>> this trip,>> 14mpg (220 miles a tank.)>> same tires, new plugs,distributer wires,>> havnt done anything to motor except the alternator trouble a few weeks>> ago,>> any ideas?>> thanks,>> johnp>> be nice to get back up to 18-20mpg,
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Mike Romain 22 March 2005 20:01:28 [ permanent link ]
	That happens to me every time I use one or two particular brands of gas. They sneak alcohol or ethanol in the gas and I lose 30% or more mileage. It is a total rip off by the gas companies. Add a little environmentally friendly' grain alcohol in there to 'help' farmers and the air because 'it' burns cleaner. Total BS. They forget to mention that the gas mileage then goes to crap so they get an instant 30% boost in their profits and all the dirty air that extra gas pollutes! I would also be checking how tight I got the belts. If the belts are too tight, they will cause a lot of friction wear on the water pump, PS pump and alternator bearings. This can eat some HP. Enough that I always made sure mine were adjusted right or even loose when I was running on a track. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:> went for a 300 mile trip over the mountains, this weekend,> when i first got my 90YJ i was getting 21mpg, (300 miles a tank) 14gal.> put in a power steering pump,> gas milage went to 17mpg (around 250 a tank.)> this trip,> 14mpg (220 miles a tank.)> same tires, new plugs,distributer wires,> havnt done anything to motor except the alternator trouble a few weeks> ago,> any ideas?> thanks,> johnp> be nice to get back up to 18-20mpg,
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Paul Calman 22 March 2005 21:35:58 [ permanent link ]
	That happens to me every time I use one or two particular brands of> gas. They sneak alcohol or ethanol in the gas and I lose 30% or more> mileage. This would be Arco and Beacon? At 7.5 freeway mpg my Jeepster is not used for general transport, I have bikes and a 50 MPG diesel car for that. -- Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
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Mike Romain 23 March 2005 01:27:21 [ permanent link ]
	Bill showed the right socket. It is the one you can fit a box or open end wrench on and you take the rubber insert out so it angles on. Bill's top photo shows it, but there is an angle knuckle in there that is not needed with the open end wrench. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Danny wrote:> XS11E wrote:> > "Paw" <p@p.com> wrote in news:St2dnWvzP-EqdaPfRVn-jA@comcast.com:> > i wish i could help you..... my mpg for the 98 cherokee went from> >>17 city driving to 12.5 city driving over the last 2 months....> >>waiting til warmer weather to root around... no idea as to why...> > Throw in a new set of spark plugs and see what happens. Test the plug> > wires* and replace them if needed.> > *Easy plug wire test: open hood on a dark night with the engine> > running, the fuzzy blue glow and arcs around the plug wires is NOT a> > good thing!> > I had a look at my '97 cherokee 4.0l and can't see how to take no:1> plug out without removing anything else. It looks tight in there> behind the alternator or compressor (I can't remember which).> --> Regards,> Danny> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)> http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar> Gold blend)> swap Z for above characters in email address to reply
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Matt Macchiarolo 23 March 2005 01:37:32 [ permanent link ]
	if you have a GPS check to see if your speedometer is off...that will affect your odometer readings and consequently your mileage calculations. "David Rhodes" <davidrhodes@verizon.net> wrote in message news:7wJ%d.6492$uw6.1688@trnddc06...>I have had the oil changes and lubes. I have not done the 30K spark plug >replacement yet nor drained the trans. Everything else is done. I also need >to get the tires rotated again.> David> "L.W. ("Яill") Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net> wrote in message > news:423F5D9C.EEA8E3D7@cox.net...>> Have you performed the normal maintenance:>> http://www.billhughes.com/lubeschedule.pdf>> God Bless America, Яill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O>> mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com>> Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:>>> went for a 300 mile trip over the mountains, this weekend,>>> when i first got my 90YJ i was getting 21mpg, (300 miles a tank) 14gal.>>> put in a power steering pump,>>> gas milage went to 17mpg (around 250 a tank.)>>> this trip,>>> 14mpg (220 miles a tank.)>>> same tires, new plugs,distributer wires,>>> havnt done anything to motor except the alternator trouble a few weeks>>> ago,>>> any ideas?>>> thanks,>>> johnp>>> be nice to get back up to 18-20mpg,>
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Mike Romain 23 March 2005 03:22:51 [ permanent link ]
	You still have connection issues so my guess is the computer dropped to 'limp home' mode which will burn a pile of gas. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:> went for a 300 mile trip over the mountains, this weekend,> when i first got my 90YJ i was getting 21mpg, (300 miles a tank) 14gal.> put in a power steering pump,> gas milage went to 17mpg (around 250 a tank.)> this trip,> 14mpg (220 miles a tank.)> same tires, new plugs,distributer wires,> havnt done anything to motor except the alternator trouble a few weeks> ago,> any ideas?> thanks,> johnp> be nice to get back up to 18-20mpg,
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Bill Bartini 14 March 2006 15:42:46 [ permanent link ]
	I own a 2005 Pacifica 2wd with about 5000 miles on it, with the worst milage I have ever seen for a 6. just wondering if I'am the only one? I get about 12 miles a a gallon.Gave up a full size Chevy wagon with a v-8 that got better milage
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