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Re: 92 Integra Idler problem
TeGGeR® 25 April 2005 05:09:52
	jskeens@gmail.com wrote in news:1114390065.089275.39970@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com: Hi,> I recently got my timing belt (along with water pump and> seals) changed. The shop told me my idler was noisy and should be> fixed sometime. I noticed after getting the car back from the TB> change it seemed louder on idling than it had before taking it in. The belt might have been overtightened. Is there a hissing or whirring noise? Anyways a week later and it stalls while at a stop sign. Realizing the> engine would run but not idle I attempted to drive it by applying a> little gas instead of idling. For some reason the car wouldn't shift> into drive so I abandoned that idea. I did notice however some smoke> coming from the side of the car where the belts are.> While I wait for the shop to have a look at it can anyone tell me if> the smoke is likely to be anything I should worry about other than the> idler itself (which I assume will be repaired)? And if its just the> idler what kind of expense can I accept this to be? The "idler" would be the A/C idler. If it's worn it will get noisy, then it will seize if you leave it long enough. Smoke can also result from a seizing alternator, power steering pump, or anything else attached to the crank by belts. It can also be caused by a timing belt tensioner seizing. I'd suggest you get this vehicle back to the garage as soon as you can. If the A/C idler seizes, the belt will eventually jump off or break, and may take out the alternator belt or P/S belt as well. If it's the timing belt tensioner, the damage can be very severe. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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TeGGeR® 25 April 2005 05:49:46 [ permanent link ]
	jskeens@gmail.com wrote in news:1114392047.087523.127610@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com: TeGGeR® wrote: <snip> The "idler" would be the A/C idler. If it's worn it will get noisy,> then it>> will seize if you leave it long enough.> Would this cause the engine to not idle at all though or is idler not> actually responsible for anything but the a/c running (which I don't> think I had on at the time). If the idler seizes it can drag the engine to a stop. The A/C belt is always turning when the engine is turning, even if you're not actually running the A/C. If you turn the A/C on, you are simply engaging a clutch inside the A/C compressor. <snip> If it is indeed something to do with the timing belt is this something> the shop should be responsible for? Depends what's wrong. If they recommended that you get something done and you turned them down, they may refuse to take any responsibility for the problems you've now got. The shop came highly recommended by the little dealer I> bought the car from so I assumed I was getting top service. You might be. Too many details not stated here. Let us know how it goes and what they say. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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George Macdonald 26 April 2005 22:04:54 [ permanent link ]
	On 25 Apr 2005 01:09:52 GMT, "TeGGeRВ®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote: jskeens@gmail.com wrote in >news:1114390065.089275.39970@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:> Hi,>> I recently got my timing belt (along with water pump and>> seals) changed. The shop told me my idler was noisy and should be>> fixed sometime. I noticed after getting the car back from the TB>> change it seemed louder on idling than it had before taking it in.> The belt might have been overtightened. Is there a hissing or whirring >noise?> Anyways a week later and it stalls while at a stop sign. Realizing the>> engine would run but not idle I attempted to drive it by applying a>> little gas instead of idling. For some reason the car wouldn't shift>> into drive so I abandoned that idea. I did notice however some smoke>> coming from the side of the car where the belts are.>> While I wait for the shop to have a look at it can anyone tell me if>> the smoke is likely to be anything I should worry about other than the>> idler itself (which I assume will be repaired)? And if its just the>> idler what kind of expense can I accept this to be?> The "idler" would be the A/C idler. If it's worn it will get noisy, then it >will seize if you leave it long enough. As you note below, it could also be the timing belt tensioner pulley - while "idler" may be a slight misnomer here, it wouldn't be the first time a mechanic applied his own terminology. If it looks like it might be an idler it's an idler.... though why anybody would put a new timing belt on a bad tensioner pulley, knowing all the work to do it again, is beyond me. Smoke can also result from a seizing alternator, power steering pump, or >anything else attached to the crank by belts. It can also be caused by a >timing belt tensioner seizing.> I'd suggest you get this vehicle back to the garage as soon as you can. If >the A/C idler seizes, the belt will eventually jump off or break, and may >take out the alternator belt or P/S belt as well. If it's the timing belt >tensioner, the damage can be very severe. Yep, when the magic smoke gets out that's bad. If it's the tensioner pulley, that timing belt is already toast. I'd pull the valve cover immediately to check. If it's the A/C idler, the effects should be pretty obvious just by lifting the hood with the engine running. -- Rgds, George Macdonald
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