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Re: Should I fix my Lude?

SoCalMike 9 April 2005 13:02:54
 disallow wrote:
So the big question: Spend $2000 for another 2-> 3 years outta the car, OR>
we have the option to buy a 1990 Cavalier (2 > door) with 103000kms and in really good shape > and saftied for $1000.

what if you just did nothing as far as the looks, and just drove it til
it fell apart? it should last another 2-3 years regardless, if the
mechanicals are sound. then take the money you saved, and put it toward
another honda.
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Disallow 9 April 2005 06:13:44 permanent link ]
 Hey all,

I know that many people post asking if they
should fix their old cars. I'll be naive and
say I think my situation is special... :)­

1987 Prelude S (Dual Carburated) Manual Trans,
no air, no power steering. 217000kms, runs
good, gets about 10kms/Litre = 24 MPG (US Gallons)(could be a little
better, but its all
city driving) Done the clutch, alternator,
thermostat, and thinking about doing the water
pump soon. Timing belt replaced at 200000kms.

BUT, as I live in Winnipeg (or Winterpeg as it
is sometimes affectionately called), its rusty.
It hasn't been too bad, but this winter was not
good to it.

Got a quote from a body guy, $1500-2000 to cut
all the rust out (sunroof, roof, wheel wells,
doors, trunk, and filler neck, all are pretty
much surface rust, no perforation, except for
the filler neck, which is rusted right out, a
common problem on preludes and accords of this
vintage)

So the big question: Spend $2000 for another 2-
3 years outta the car, OR

we have the option to buy a 1990 Cavalier (2
door) with 103000kms and in really good shape
and saftied for $1000.

This is my girlfriend's car, I once said I would
break up with her if she drove a piece of
detroit junk, but its a hard sell to say she
should spend $2000 on her 18 year old honda
(which she loves).

Any opinions out there?

t

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Disallow 9 April 2005 06:14:04 permanent link ]
 Hey all,

I know that many people post asking if they
should fix their old cars. I'll be naive and
say I think my situation is special... :)­

1987 Prelude S (Dual Carburated) Manual Trans,
no air, no power steering. 217000kms, runs
good, gets about 10kms/Litre = 24 MPG (US Gallons)(could be a little
better, but its all
city driving) Done the clutch, alternator,
thermostat, and thinking about doing the water
pump soon. Timing belt replaced at 200000kms.

BUT, as I live in Winnipeg (or Winterpeg as it
is sometimes affectionately called), its rusty.
It hasn't been too bad, but this winter was not
good to it.

Got a quote from a body guy, $1500-2000 to cut
all the rust out (sunroof, roof, wheel wells,
doors, trunk, and filler neck, all are pretty
much surface rust, no perforation, except for
the filler neck, which is rusted right out, a
common problem on preludes and accords of this
vintage)

So the big question: Spend $2000 for another 2-
3 years outta the car, OR

we have the option to buy a 1990 Cavalier (2
door) with 103000kms and in really good shape
and saftied for $1000.

This is my girlfriend's car, I once said I would
break up with her if she drove a piece of
detroit junk, but its a hard sell to say she
should spend $2000 on her 18 year old honda
(which she loves).

Any opinions out there?

t

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Dab 9 April 2005 07:21:38 permanent link ]
 

disallow wrote:> Hey all,>
I know that many people post asking if they> should fix their old cars. I'll be naive and> say I think my situation is special... :)­>
1987 Prelude S (Dual Carburated) Manual Trans,> no air, no power steering. 217000kms, runs> good, gets about 10kms/Litre = 24 MPG (US Gallons)(could be a little> better, but its all> city driving) Done the clutch, alternator,> thermostat, and thinking about doing the water> pump soon. Timing belt replaced at 200000kms.>
BUT, as I live in Winnipeg (or Winterpeg as it> is sometimes affectionately called), its rusty.> It hasn't been too bad, but this winter was not> good to it.>
Got a quote from a body guy, $1500-2000 to cut> all the rust out (sunroof, roof, wheel wells,> doors, trunk, and filler neck, all are pretty> much surface rust, no perforation, except for> the filler neck, which is rusted right out, a> common problem on preludes and accords of this> vintage)>
So the big question: Spend $2000 for another 2-> 3 years outta the car, OR>
we have the option to buy a 1990 Cavalier (2> door) with 103000kms and in really good shape> and saftied for $1000.>
This is my girlfriend's car, I once said I would> break up with her if she drove a piece of> detroit junk, but its a hard sell to say she> should spend $2000 on her 18 year old honda> (which she loves).>
Any opinions out there?

Yes fix the Prelude......my first Honda was a 1982 Prelude.....I did have
air <G> and a Moonroof and standard shift..... I loved that car and wish I
still had it......


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Chris 9 April 2005 08:41:32 permanent link ]
 Fix it...with 217 000 kms- your Prelude is far from the grave. I have a
1988 civic with 320 000 kms, and it runs like a top!
-chris

"DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit­.com> wrote in message
news:6TH5e.1025$Zn3­.408@trnddc02...>
disallow wrote:>> Hey all,>>
I know that many people post asking if they>> should fix their old cars. I'll be naive and>> say I think my situation is special... :)­>>
1987 Prelude S (Dual Carburated) Manual Trans,>> no air, no power steering. 217000kms, runs>> good, gets about 10kms/Litre = 24 MPG (US Gallons)(could be a little>> better, but its all>> city driving) Done the clutch, alternator,>> thermostat, and thinking about doing the water>> pump soon. Timing belt replaced at 200000kms.>>
BUT, as I live in Winnipeg (or Winterpeg as it>> is sometimes affectionately called), its rusty.>> It hasn't been too bad, but this winter was not>> good to it.>>
Got a quote from a body guy, $1500-2000 to cut>> all the rust out (sunroof, roof, wheel wells,>> doors, trunk, and filler neck, all are pretty>> much surface rust, no perforation, except for>> the filler neck, which is rusted right out, a>> common problem on preludes and accords of this>> vintage)>>
So the big question: Spend $2000 for another 2->> 3 years outta the car, OR>>
we have the option to buy a 1990 Cavalier (2>> door) with 103000kms and in really good shape>> and saftied for $1000.>>
This is my girlfriend's car, I once said I would>> break up with her if she drove a piece of>> detroit junk, but its a hard sell to say she>> should spend $2000 on her 18 year old honda>> (which she loves).>>
Any opinions out there?>
Yes fix the Prelude......my first Honda was a 1982 Prelude.....I did have> air <G> and a Moonroof and standard shift..... I loved that car and wish I> still had it......>


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Frank 9 April 2005 15:57:13 permanent link ]
 First reaction: Fix it. It is a lude after all. Also, if you
maintained so well, it should be good for a few more years, if
not more. One thing. is the engine still in great shape? Have you
done a compression text on it?

If all is fine, fix it, then Krown it (rust proof it, but you are
a fellow canadian, so you know about krown...).

Second reaction: If you do have the $$, or if you desperatly want
more creature comfort, don't fix it and buy a third generation
Integra. Great car, great fun to drive: reliable. You can have a
great one for 10K-ish. in the 1994-1998 range

"disallow" <loewen_t at yahoo.ca @> wrote in message
news:88d45d6f698921­2115d96ad59d7298bf@l­ocalhost.talkaboutau­tos.com...> Hey all,>
I know that many people post asking if they> should fix their old cars. I'll be naive and> say I think my situation is special... :)­>
1987 Prelude S (Dual Carburated) Manual Trans,> no air, no power steering. 217000kms, runs> good, gets about 10kms/Litre = 24 MPG (US Gallons)(could be a > little> better, but its all> city driving) Done the clutch, alternator,> thermostat, and thinking about doing the water> pump soon. Timing belt replaced at 200000kms.>
BUT, as I live in Winnipeg (or Winterpeg as it> is sometimes affectionately called), its rusty.> It hasn't been too bad, but this winter was not> good to it.>
Got a quote from a body guy, $1500-2000 to cut> all the rust out (sunroof, roof, wheel wells,> doors, trunk, and filler neck, all are pretty> much surface rust, no perforation, except for> the filler neck, which is rusted right out, a> common problem on preludes and accords of this> vintage)>
So the big question: Spend $2000 for another 2-> 3 years outta the car, OR>
we have the option to buy a 1990 Cavalier (2> door) with 103000kms and in really good shape> and saftied for $1000.>
This is my girlfriend's car, I once said I would> break up with her if she drove a piece of> detroit junk, but its a hard sell to say she> should spend $2000 on her 18 year old honda> (which she loves).>
Any opinions out there?>


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Steve Bigelow 9 April 2005 21:49:35 permanent link ]
 
"SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail­@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:w_2dnZIyTJIlm8­XfRVn-iQ@comcast.com­...> Pars wrote:>> I'd drive the Lude into the ground and use the savings to get a new Echo>> Hatch.>
dont they offer the scion line of cars up there?

Nope.
But we get Smart cars!


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SoCalMike 9 April 2005 21:52:27 permanent link ]
 Steve Bigelow wrote:> "SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail­@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:w_2dnZIyTJIlm8­XfRVn-iQ@comcast.com­...>
Pars wrote:>>
I'd drive the Lude into the ground and use the savings to get a new Echo>>>Hatch.>>
dont they offer the scion line of cars up there?>
Nope.> But we get Smart cars! >
were supposedly going to get em too, eventually. but by then the honda
jazz will be out. decisions, decisions...

the smart actually seems like a safe car... like youre riding in a roll
cage.
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Dave Garrett 9 April 2005 22:54:47 permanent link ]
 In article <02J5e.934862$8l.80­0875@pd7tw1no>, whosechris@yahoo.ca­
says...
Fix it...with 217 000 kms- your Prelude is far from the grave. I have a > 1988 civic with 320 000 kms, and it runs like a top!

Agreed - if you maintain it well the Prelude will last a lot longer than
the Cavalier, despite the difference in mileage between the two cars.

Dave

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Me 10 April 2005 01:49:38 permanent link ]
 Yup It does...
But you can't open your mouth wide enough when you gasp for air should you
need to replace 1 single little tire. Imagine if you need to replace the 4
of them. You will need to accumulate a zillion miles to save enough in fuel
to justify the difference.
Yup. And 10 bucks worth of Diesel fills it.>








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Dean 10 April 2005 02:37:42 permanent link ]
 Uh are you asking should your girl friend drive a rusty 18 year old Honda she
loves or a 15 year old Chevy? (which I find hard to believe isn't rusty as
well.) The answer is easy, drive the HONDA! You'll end up spending more to
keep that Chevy on the road. The chevy is about due to have its transmission
replaced. And GM products in general are not very good cars. So if the Honda is
in good mechanical shape fix it other than the body fix it up. Or as someone
else said just let it rust in peace and save the money for a newer car latter.

I have the same dilemma with my 1991 Accord. Fix the rust or not? I think I've
decided to fix it. If I can get another 3 or 4 years out of the car that would
be great.

Dean

On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 22:13:44 -0400, "disallow" <loewen_t at yahoo.ca @> wrote:
Hey all,>
I know that many people post asking if they >should fix their old cars. I'll be naive and >say I think my situation is special... :)­>
1987 Prelude S (Dual Carburated) Manual Trans, >no air, no power steering. 217000kms, runs >good, gets about 10kms/Litre = 24 MPG (US Gallons)(could be a little>better, but its all >city driving) Done the clutch, alternator, >thermostat, and thinking about doing the water >pump soon. Timing belt replaced at 200000kms.>
BUT, as I live in Winnipeg (or Winterpeg as it >is sometimes affectionately called), its rusty.>It hasn't been too bad, but this winter was not >good to it.>
Got a quote from a body guy, $1500-2000 to cut> all the rust out (sunroof, roof, wheel wells, >doors, trunk, and filler neck, all are pretty >much surface rust, no perforation, except for >the filler neck, which is rusted right out, a >common problem on preludes and accords of this >vintage)>
So the big question: Spend $2000 for another 2->3 years outta the car, OR>
we have the option to buy a 1990 Cavalier (2 >door) with 103000kms and in really good shape >and saftied for $1000.>
This is my girlfriend's car, I once said I would >break up with her if she drove a piece of >detroit junk, but its a hard sell to say she >should spend $2000 on her 18 year old honda >(which she loves).>
Any opinions out there?>
t

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SoCalMike 10 April 2005 04:50:06 permanent link ]
 Steve Bigelow wrote:> "SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail­@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:cIydndRo-_3Di8­XfRVn-pQ@comcast.com­...>
Steve Bigelow wrote:>>
"SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail­@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>news:w_2dnZIyTJI­lm8XfRVn-iQ@comcast.­com...>>>
Pars wrote:>>>>
I'd drive the Lude into the ground and use the savings to get a new Echo>>>>>Hatch.>>>>­
dont they offer the scion line of cars up there?>>>
Nope.>>>But we get Smart cars!>>
were supposedly going to get em too, eventually. but by then the honda >>jazz will be out. decisions, decisions...>>
the smart actually seems like a safe car... like youre riding in a roll >>cage.>
Yup. And 10 bucks worth of Diesel fills it. >
prolly be more like $20 worth, now. LOL.
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SoCalMike 10 April 2005 04:50:54 permanent link ]
 me wrote:> Yup It does...> But you can't open your mouth wide enough when you gasp for air should you> need to replace 1 single little tire.

dunno. what size does it use?
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Me 10 April 2005 05:20:59 permanent link ]
 2 sizes: 145x65 15 front and 175x55 15 rear

"SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail­@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:K6qdncak6Ojs5c­XfRVn-rw@comcast.com­...> me wrote:> > Yup It does...> > But you can't open your mouth wide enough when you gasp for air should
need to replace 1 single little tire.>
dunno. what size does it use?


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Me 10 April 2005 05:44:39 permanent link ]
 2 sizes: 145x65 15 front and 175x55 15 rear
Incidentally it takes 22-25 liters to fill up when empty depending on how
long you've been driving w/ the low fuel light on.
That's more like $20.00 Can. not 10 but you do get well over 500 Kms out of
that.
Mike

"SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail­@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:K6qdncak6Ojs5c­XfRVn-rw@comcast.com­...> me wrote:> > Yup It does...> > But you can't open your mouth wide enough when you gasp for air should
need to replace 1 single little tire.>
dunno. what size does it use?






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John 10 April 2005 12:06:51 permanent link ]
 Might as well grab my golf cart and go for a ride...

"Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@ro­gers.com> wrote in message
news:S5ydndCw8_0ziM­XfRVn-pw@rogers.com.­..>
"SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail­@hotmail.com> wrote in message> news:w_2dnZIyTJIlm8­XfRVn-iQ@comcast.com­...> > Pars wrote:> >> I'd drive the Lude into the ground and use the savings to get a new
Echo> >> Hatch.> >
dont they offer the scion line of cars up there?>
Nope.> But we get Smart cars!>


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Pars 10 April 2005 19:55:44 permanent link ]
 
dont they offer the scion line of cars up there?> >
Nope.> > But we get Smart cars!> >
were supposedly going to get em too, eventually. but by then the honda> jazz will be out. decisions, decisions...>
the smart actually seems like a safe car... like youre riding in a roll> cage.

It's suppose to be very sure footed in the snow (The traction control system
most be the real deal). It's too bad that it doesn't come with a standard
tranny and the width is too narrow for those of us who are extra wide. Also,
the poor quality of N.American's diesel fuel can be an issue with such a
high strong engine. I bet Toyota could make a vastly better version of the
smart car, given there refinements with Hybrid engines and ability to
produce lightweight but strong chassis.

Pars


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Disallow 11 April 2005 01:39:26 permanent link ]
 depends what you classify as major, but we did
the clutch on the 87 prelude for $150 canadian,
and about 6 hours of grunting...

t

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Jim Shipley 11 April 2005 17:19:18 permanent link ]
 Wow - I had a 87 Prelude. I LOVED that car. Back when I was single.
Sounds like you have almost driven it into the ground, might as well take it
to the end. Going to a 1990 Cavalier would be a mistake.


"disallow" <loewen_t at yahoo.ca @> wrote in message
news:0d3eea92ba489c­a107021716e073989d@l­ocalhost.talkaboutau­tos.com...> Hey all,>
I know that many people post asking if they> should fix their old cars. I'll be naive and> say I think my situation is special... :)­>
1987 Prelude S (Dual Carburated) Manual Trans,> no air, no power steering. 217000kms, runs> good, gets about 10kms/Litre = 24 MPG (US Gallons)(could be a little> better, but its all> city driving) Done the clutch, alternator,> thermostat, and thinking about doing the water> pump soon. Timing belt replaced at 200000kms.>
BUT, as I live in Winnipeg (or Winterpeg as it> is sometimes affectionately called), its rusty.> It hasn't been too bad, but this winter was not> good to it.>
Got a quote from a body guy, $1500-2000 to cut> all the rust out (sunroof, roof, wheel wells,> doors, trunk, and filler neck, all are pretty> much surface rust, no perforation, except for> the filler neck, which is rusted right out, a> common problem on preludes and accords of this> vintage)>
So the big question: Spend $2000 for another 2-> 3 years outta the car, OR>
we have the option to buy a 1990 Cavalier (2> door) with 103000kms and in really good shape> and saftied for $1000.>
This is my girlfriend's car, I once said I would> break up with her if she drove a piece of> detroit junk, but its a hard sell to say she> should spend $2000 on her 18 year old honda> (which she loves).>
Any opinions out there?>


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Pars 11 April 2005 23:17:40 permanent link ]
 
"disallow" <loewen_t at yahoo.ca @> wrote in message
news:fbb18e5f7865b4­b68b65463df260552d@l­ocalhost.talkaboutau­tos.com...> depends what you classify as major, but we did> the clutch on the 87 prelude for $150 canadian,> and about 6 hours of grunting...

It always pays good, when you're doing your own grunt work. It's too bad you
can't get the same kind of deal on the body work.

Pars


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SoCalMike 12 April 2005 03:54:50 permanent link ]
 Pars wrote:> "disallow" <loewen_t at yahoo.ca @> wrote in message> news:fbb18e5f7865b4­b68b65463df260552d@l­ocalhost.talkaboutau­tos.com...>
depends what you classify as major, but we did>>the clutch on the 87 prelude for $150 canadian,>>and about 6 hours of grunting...>
It always pays good, when you're doing your own grunt work. It's too bad you> can't get the same kind of deal on the body work.

you can do that yourself, too. takes a bit more practice.
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Hondaman 12 April 2005 07:36:00 permanent link ]
 Fix! Stick with good old honda and if anything you can turn around and sell
it anyway but it being way older than the cavalier probably still will
outrun it.


-Jeff


"disallow" <loewen_t at yahoo.ca @> wrote in message
news:88d45d6f698921­2115d96ad59d7298bf@l­ocalhost.talkaboutau­tos.com...> Hey all,>
I know that many people post asking if they> should fix their old cars. I'll be naive and> say I think my situation is special... :)­>
1987 Prelude S (Dual Carburated) Manual Trans,> no air, no power steering. 217000kms, runs> good, gets about 10kms/Litre = 24 MPG (US Gallons)(could be a little> better, but its all> city driving) Done the clutch, alternator,> thermostat, and thinking about doing the water> pump soon. Timing belt replaced at 200000kms.>
BUT, as I live in Winnipeg (or Winterpeg as it> is sometimes affectionately called), its rusty.> It hasn't been too bad, but this winter was not> good to it.>
Got a quote from a body guy, $1500-2000 to cut> all the rust out (sunroof, roof, wheel wells,> doors, trunk, and filler neck, all are pretty> much surface rust, no perforation, except for> the filler neck, which is rusted right out, a> common problem on preludes and accords of this> vintage)>
So the big question: Spend $2000 for another 2-> 3 years outta the car, OR>
we have the option to buy a 1990 Cavalier (2> door) with 103000kms and in really good shape> and saftied for $1000.>
This is my girlfriend's car, I once said I would> break up with her if she drove a piece of> detroit junk, but its a hard sell to say she> should spend $2000 on her 18 year old honda> (which she loves).>
Any opinions out there?>


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