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Marcos 29 March 2005 05:33:28
 Some mother-less a$$wipe stole both air bags from my 99 Accord last
week. Since the low-life retard probably could not pick the lock and was
not bold enough to break the glass, he punched a hole in the door's
sheetmetal, next to the lock. The Club was still on the steering wheel
when I saw the car next morning.
Unlucky for me, I dropped full coverage on the car on Jan 1,2005...Just
got too expensive in NYC.
Total price to repair will be over $2k, out of pocket! Really really sucks.

Question:
How are other urban dwellers preventing the theft of air bags?
Even though I have off street parking and a reserved spot, the parking
lot is easily accessible to anyone on foot. The location is well lit.
I have seen devices similar to "The Club", that prevent air bag theft,
but how good are these? Also, is there anyway to prevent the theft of
the passenger air bag?


Thanks in advance

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Marcos 29 March 2005 05:42:35 permanent link ]
 I guess I can ask the body shop to look into these.
HOwever, will screws/bolts prevent the air bag from being replaced after
they deploy?

halo2 guy wrote:
Well there are tamperproof screws/bolts that can be used in place of the > regular screws which may give some measure of protection.>
"Marcos" <mm904@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message > news:If22e.38132$qn­2.8907394@twister.ny­c.rr.com...>
Some mother-less a$$wipe stole both air bags from my 99 Accord last week. >>Since the low-life retard probably could not pick the lock and was not >>bold enough to break the glass, he punched a hole in the door's >>sheetmetal, next to the lock. The Club was still on the steering wheel >>when I saw the car next morning.>>Unlucky for me, I dropped full coverage on the car on Jan 1,2005...Just >>got too expensive in NYC.>>Total price to repair will be over $2k, out of pocket! Really really >>sucks.>>
Question:>>How are other urban dwellers preventing the theft of air bags?>>Even though I have off street parking and a reserved spot, the parking lot >>is easily accessible to anyone on foot. The location is well lit.>>I have seen devices similar to "The Club", that prevent air bag theft, but >>how good are these? Also, is there anyway to prevent the theft of the >>passenger air bag?>>
Thanks in advance>>

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Halo2 Guy 29 March 2005 05:43:56 permanent link ]
 Well there are tamperproof screws/bolts that can be used in place of the
regular screws which may give some measure of protection.


"Marcos" <mm904@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:If22e.38132$qn­2.8907394@twister.ny­c.rr.com...> Some mother-less a$$wipe stole both air bags from my 99 Accord last week. > Since the low-life retard probably could not pick the lock and was not > bold enough to break the glass, he punched a hole in the door's > sheetmetal, next to the lock. The Club was still on the steering wheel > when I saw the car next morning.> Unlucky for me, I dropped full coverage on the car on Jan 1,2005...Just > got too expensive in NYC.> Total price to repair will be over $2k, out of pocket! Really really > sucks.>
Question:> How are other urban dwellers preventing the theft of air bags?> Even though I have off street parking and a reserved spot, the parking lot > is easily accessible to anyone on foot. The location is well lit.> I have seen devices similar to "The Club", that prevent air bag theft, but > how good are these? Also, is there anyway to prevent the theft of the > passenger air bag?>
Thanks in advance>


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TeGGer® 29 March 2005 06:23:24 permanent link ]
 Marcos <mm904@nyc.rr.com> wrote in
news:If22e.38132$qn­2.8907394@twister.ny­c.rr.com:
Some mother-less a$$wipe stole both air bags from my 99 Accord last > week. Since the low-life retard probably could not pick the lock and> was not bold enough to break the glass, he punched a hole in the> door's sheetmetal, next to the lock. The Club was still on the> steering wheel when I saw the car next morning.> Unlucky for me, I dropped full coverage on the car on Jan> 1,2005...Just got too expensive in NYC.> Total price to repair will be over $2k, out of pocket! Really really> sucks.


Hey, I feel for ya. My sister lives in Oakville, Ontario, Canada,
not exactly a high-crime area.

She had the bags in her '00 Civic stolen two months ago. They smashed a
window and were gone in about a minute with both bags. How the hell did
they get them out so fast? They did a lot of damage to the interior doing
it, too.

Question:> How are other urban dwellers preventing the theft of air bags?> Even though I have off street parking and a reserved spot, the parking> lot is easily accessible to anyone on foot. The location is well lit.> I have seen devices similar to "The Club", that prevent air bag theft,> but how good are these? Also, is there anyway to prevent the theft of > the passenger air bag?>


I've heard that some people (taxis also) have steel plates welded inside
the doors near the locks, to prevent thieves from punching through the door
skin. Don't know what to do about the window glass tho'.

Doesn't help you here, but I think the only way to prevent theft is to
bring the cost of the bags down so they're worthless to thieves. Either
that or chip the bags like a radio, so they're keyed to a specific VIN.


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The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
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SoCalMike 29 March 2005 08:55:50 permanent link ]
 Marcos wrote:> Some mother-less a$$wipe stole both air bags from my 99 Accord last > week. Since the low-life retard probably could not pick the lock and was > not bold enough to break the glass, he punched a hole in the door's > sheetmetal, next to the lock. The Club was still on the steering wheel > when I saw the car next morning.> Unlucky for me, I dropped full coverage on the car on Jan 1,2005...Just > got too expensive in NYC.> Total price to repair will be over $2k, out of pocket! Really really sucks.

id probably go without, honestly. get the new covers to put on, and just
deal with it. or just get a drivers side bag.
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R. P. 29 March 2005 12:22:20 permanent link ]
 "TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote:> Hey, I feel for ya. My sister lives in Oakville, Ontario, Canada,> not exactly a high-crime area.>
She had the bags in her '00 Civic stolen two months ago. They smashed > a> window and were gone in about a minute with both bags. How the hell > did> they get them out so fast? They did a lot of damage to the interior > doing> it, too.

Holy sh*t! I didn't realize there was such a market for airbags. Now
I'll always be wondering when I see them for sale on eBay.

Rudy

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Sparky Spartacus 30 March 2005 12:34:47 permanent link ]
 TeGGer® wrote:> Marcos <mm904@nyc.rr.com> wrote in> news:If22e.38132$qn­2.8907394@twister.ny­c.rr.com: >
Some mother-less a$$wipe stole both air bags from my 99 Accord last >>week. Since the low-life retard probably could not pick the lock and>>was not bold enough to break the glass, he punched a hole in the>>door's sheetmetal, next to the lock. The Club was still on the>>steering wheel when I saw the car next morning.>>Unlucky for me, I dropped full coverage on the car on Jan>>1,2005...Just got too expensive in NYC.>>Total price to repair will be over $2k, out of pocket! Really really>>sucks.>
Hey, I feel for ya. My sister lives in Oakville, Ontario, Canada,> not exactly a high-crime area.>
She had the bags in her '00 Civic stolen two months ago. They smashed a > window and were gone in about a minute with both bags. How the hell did > they get them out so fast? They did a lot of damage to the interior doing > it, too.

Didn't you just answer your own question? Thieves don't "work neat" (the
voice of experience - I lost count on how many times my car was broken
into when I lived in NYC when it got up to 10-12 times, usually for the
radio - this was pre-airbag days for moi).
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TeGGer® 30 March 2005 16:47:36 permanent link ]
 Sparky Spartacus <Sparky@spartacus.g­alaxy.org> wrote in
news:Cwt2e.15465$Nc­3.185@fe09.lga:
TeGGer® wrote:
She had the bags in her '00 Civic stolen two months ago. They smashed>> a window and were gone in about a minute with both bags. How the hell>> did they get them out so fast? They did a lot of damage to the>> interior doing it, too.>
Didn't you just answer your own question?


Heh, seems so, doesn't it?

Thieves don't "work neat"> (the voice of experience - I lost count on how many times my car was> broken into when I lived in NYC when it got up to 10-12 times, usually> for the radio - this was pre-airbag days for moi).


And that's what resulted in OEM radios eventually becoming unique to a
specific vehicle unless a code was entered. Maybe they need to do the same
thing with air bags.



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Guest 30 March 2005 19:49:24 permanent link ]
 "TeGGer" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote:> And because of their replacement cost, which can nearly double the price of > fixing damage from minor fender-benders.

A friend's Civic was totalled after the airbags went off. The extra $3000
for bag replacement tipped the scales...

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Marcos 31 March 2005 05:40:15 permanent link ]
 I wonder if the smart Honda engineers can come up with a way to prevent
air bag theft, or at least make it NOT worth while. Much like the OEM
radio, or perhaps etching the VIN on the air bag. I know this would add
cost to producing the car, but I am paying $1400 simply to purchase the
replacement air bags, not including the other damage and labor.

TeGGer® wrote:> Sparky Spartacus <Sparky@spartacus.g­alaxy.org> wrote in> news:Cwt2e.15465$Nc­3.185@fe09.lga: >
TeGGer® wrote:>
She had the bags in her '00 Civic stolen two months ago. They smashed>>>a window and were gone in about a minute with both bags. How the hell>>>did they get them out so fast? They did a lot of damage to the>>>interior doing it, too.>>
Didn't you just answer your own question?>
Heh, seems so, doesn't it?>
Thieves don't "work neat">>(the voice of experience - I lost count on how many times my car was>>broken into when I lived in NYC when it got up to 10-12 times, usually>>for the radio - this was pre-airbag days for moi).>
And that's what resulted in OEM radios eventually becoming unique to a > specific vehicle unless a code was entered. Maybe they need to do the same > thing with air bags.>

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Sac 441 31 March 2005 06:11:18 permanent link ]
 I have an idea: If the airbag or airbag well is tampered with,a small
spray canister explodes and sprays the LITERAL scent of SKUNK (you can
purchase this chemical) all over him.If this happened enough times to
the thief,he just MIGHT give up....LOL

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Halo2 Guy 31 March 2005 07:29:03 permanent link ]
 Well you don't have to replace them. You could leave them out. They are
not required.


"Marcos" <mm904@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3yI2e.39670$qn­2.9205972@twister.ny­c.rr.com...>I wonder if the smart Honda engineers can come up with a way to prevent air >bag theft, or at least make it NOT worth while. Much like the OEM radio, or >perhaps etching the VIN on the air bag. I know this would add cost to >producing the car, but I am paying $1400 simply to purchase the replacement >air bags, not including the other damage and labor.>
TeGGer® wrote:>> Sparky Spartacus <Sparky@spartacus.g­alaxy.org> wrote in>> news:Cwt2e.15465$Nc­3.185@fe09.lga:>>>Te­GGer® wrote:>>
She had the bags in her '00 Civic stolen two months ago. They smashed>>>>a window and were gone in about a minute with both bags. How the hell>>>>did they get them out so fast? They did a lot of damage to the>>>>interior doing it, too.>>>
Didn't you just answer your own question?>>
Heh, seems so, doesn't it?>>
Thieves don't "work neat">>>(the voice of experience - I lost count on how many times my car was>>>broken into when I lived in NYC when it got up to 10-12 times, usually>>>for the radio - this was pre-airbag days for moi).>>
And that's what resulted in OEM radios eventually becoming unique to a >> specific vehicle unless a code was entered. Maybe they need to do the >> same thing with air bags.>>


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Abeness 31 March 2005 07:58:14 permanent link ]
 SAC 441 wrote:> I have an idea: If the airbag or airbag well is tampered with,a small> spray canister explodes and sprays the LITERAL scent of SKUNK (you can> purchase this chemical) all over him.If this happened enough times to> the thief,he just MIGHT give up....LOL

Yeah, but then the inside of your car reeks forever after. Ick.
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Marcos 31 March 2005 15:52:51 permanent link ]
 I assume that a car will not pass inspection without the air bags in place.

halo2 guy wrote:> Well you don't have to replace them. You could leave them out. They are > not required.>
"Marcos" <mm904@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message > news:3yI2e.39670$qn­2.9205972@twister.ny­c.rr.com...>
I wonder if the smart Honda engineers can come up with a way to prevent air >>bag theft, or at least make it NOT worth while. Much like the OEM radio, or >>perhaps etching the VIN on the air bag. I know this would add cost to >>producing the car, but I am paying $1400 simply to purchase the replacement >>air bags, not including the other damage and labor.>>
TeGGer® wrote:>>
Sparky Spartacus <Sparky@spartacus.g­alaxy.org> wrote in>>>news:Cwt2e.154­65$Nc3.185@fe09.lga:­>>>
TeGGer® wrote:>>>
She had the bags in her '00 Civic stolen two months ago. They smashed>>>>>a window and were gone in about a minute with both bags. How the hell>>>>>did they get them out so fast? They did a lot of damage to the>>>>>interior doing it, too.>>>>
Didn't you just answer your own question?>>>
Heh, seems so, doesn't it?>>>
Thieves don't "work neat">>>>(the voice of experience - I lost count on how many times my car was>>>>broken into when I lived in NYC when it got up to 10-12 times, usually>>>>for the radio - this was pre-airbag days for moi).>>>
And that's what resulted in OEM radios eventually becoming unique to a >>>specific vehicle unless a code was entered. Maybe they need to do the >>>same thing with air bags.>>>

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TeGGer® 31 March 2005 18:24:22 permanent link ]
 In at least some of Canada, it would pass. In the US, not at all.

-- TeGGer®


Marcos <mm904@nyc.rr.com> wrote in
news:nwR2e.103009$5­34.17405@twister.nyc­.rr.com:
I assume that a car will not pass inspection without the air bags in> place. >
halo2 guy wrote:>> Well you don't have to replace them. You could leave them out. They>> are not required.>>
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Halo2 Guy 31 March 2005 20:31:26 permanent link ]
 air bags are not like brakes or tires. If the air bags don't work then it
is the occupants of the vehicle that will suffer. If other safety items
like brakes and tires, that are inspected, are not up to snuff then society
is in danger of being hurt or killed.

I am unaware of any laws requiring owners to replace air bags as needed. I
guess they would also need laws saying that if your SRS light comes on you
need to fix that also. As far as I know they don't. A call to the local
MVD would probably render a correct answer.


"Marcos" <mm904@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:nwR2e.103009$5­34.17405@twister.nyc­.rr.com...>I assume that a car will not pass inspection without the air bags in place.>
halo2 guy wrote:>> Well you don't have to replace them. You could leave them out. They are >> not required.>>
"Marcos" <mm904@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:3yI2e.39670$qn­2.9205972@twister.ny­c.rr.com...>>
I wonder if the smart Honda engineers can come up with a way to prevent >>>air bag theft, or at least make it NOT worth while. Much like the OEM >>>radio, or perhaps etching the VIN on the air bag. I know this would add >>>cost to producing the car, but I am paying $1400 simply to purchase the >>>replacement air bags, not including the other damage and labor.>>>
TeGGer® wrote:>>>
Sparky Spartacus <Sparky@spartacus.g­alaxy.org> wrote in>>>>news:Cwt2e.15­465$Nc3.185@fe09.lga­:>>>>
TeGGer® wrote:>>>>
She had the bags in her '00 Civic stolen two months ago. They smashed>>>>>>a window and were gone in about a minute with both bags. How the hell>>>>>>did they get them out so fast? They did a lot of damage to the>>>>>>interior doing it, too.>>>>>
Didn't you just answer your own question?>>>>
Heh, seems so, doesn't it?>>>>
Thieves don't "work neat">>>>>(the voice of experience - I lost count on how many times my car was>>>>>broken into when I lived in NYC when it got up to 10-12 times, usually>>>>>for the radio - this was pre-airbag days for moi).>>>>
And that's what resulted in OEM radios eventually becoming unique to a >>>>specific vehicle unless a code was entered. Maybe they need to do the >>>>same thing with air bags.>>>>


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Dee 31 March 2005 20:35:48 permanent link ]
 It wouldn't, but how are they going to know?



"Marcos" <mm904@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:nwR2e.103009$5­34.17405@twister.nyc­.rr.com...> I assume that a car will not pass inspection without the air bags in
place.>




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TeGGer® 1 April 2005 01:20:25 permanent link ]
 "Dee" <Nobody@nospam.com>­ wrote in
news:EFV2e.1511$Xp.­1065@tornado.texas.r­r.com:
"Marcos" <mm904@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message> news:nwR2e.103009$5­34.17405@twister.nyc­.rr.com...>> I assume that a car will not pass inspection without the air bags in> place.>>
It wouldn't, but how are they going to know?



Well, they crash the car. If the bags go off, then you had working air bags
and you pass the inspection!


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SoCalMike 1 April 2005 01:39:18 permanent link ]
 TeGGer® wrote:> In at least some of Canada, it would pass. In the US, not at all.

in california, they dont physically check for the bags. dunno if having
an SRS light lit up would cause it to not pass the biennual emissions
test. id think not, but hey- ya never know.

a guy i know had an accident bad enough to set off the bags. he put a
friggin LCD screen in the steering wheel in place of the bag.

bling, bling, y'all!
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Abeness 1 April 2005 02:09:07 permanent link ]
 SoCalMike wrote:> a guy i know had an accident bad enough to set off the bags. he put a > friggin LCD screen in the steering wheel in place of the bag.

Wonder what his next accident will look like, what with that screen and
all...
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Dee 1 April 2005 08:34:24 permanent link ]
 << Well, they crash the car. If the bags go off, then you had working air
bags
and you pass the inspection! >>

Shitttt....... LMAO!





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Sparky Spartacus 1 April 2005 12:42:58 permanent link ]
 TeGGer® wrote:> Sparky Spartacus <Sparky@spartacus.g­alaxy.org> wrote in> news:Cwt2e.15465$Nc­3.185@fe09.lga: >
TeGGer® wrote:>
She had the bags in her '00 Civic stolen two months ago. They smashed>>>a window and were gone in about a minute with both bags. How the hell>>>did they get them out so fast? They did a lot of damage to the>>>interior doing it, too.>>
Didn't you just answer your own question?>
Heh, seems so, doesn't it?

Seemed so to me. :)­
Thieves don't "work neat">>(the voice of experience - I lost count on how many times my car was>>broken into when I lived in NYC when it got up to 10-12 times, usually>>for the radio - this was pre-airbag days for moi).>
And that's what resulted in OEM radios eventually becoming unique to a > specific vehicle unless a code was entered.

And thank God for that, too!
Maybe they need to do the same thing with air bags.

Do you think it's much of a cost issue?
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Sparky Spartacus 1 April 2005 12:45:17 permanent link ]
 Marcos wrote:> I wonder if the smart Honda engineers can come up with a way to prevent > air bag theft, or at least make it NOT worth while. Much like the OEM > radio, or perhaps etching the VIN on the air bag.

That sounds fiendishly expensive - they'd either have to be done at
final assembly (or whenever the VIN is determined) or the air bags
allocated at manufacture to a specific VIN except, of course, those
intended for aftermarket sale.
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Sparky Spartacus 1 April 2005 12:46:44 permanent link ]
 halo2 guy wrote:> air bags are not like brakes or tires. If the air bags don't work then it > is the occupants of the vehicle that will suffer. If other safety items > like brakes and tires, that are inspected, are not up to snuff then society > is in danger of being hurt or killed.>
I am unaware of any laws requiring owners to replace air bags as needed. I > guess they would also need laws saying that if your SRS light comes on you > need to fix that also. As far as I know they don't. A call to the local > MVD would probably render a correct answer.

<snort>

Let's just say I'm skeptical (not a flame, BTW).
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Sparky Spartacus 1 April 2005 12:48:15 permanent link ]
 SAC 441 wrote:> I have an idea: If the airbag or airbag well is tampered with,a small> spray canister explodes and sprays the LITERAL scent of SKUNK (you can> purchase this chemical) all over him.If this happened enough times to> the thief,he just MIGHT give up....LOL

That would certainly make it really easy to ID any car whose air bags
had been stolen. Besides, who's to say everyone who smells like skunk
has stolen air bags?
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TeGGer® 1 April 2005 18:42:11 permanent link ]
 Sparky Spartacus <Sparky@spartacus.g­alaxy.org> wrote in
news:qS73e.19345$8Z­5.15945@fe09.lga:
Marcos wrote:>> I wonder if the smart Honda engineers can come up with a way to prevent >> air bag theft, or at least make it NOT worth while. Much like the OEM >> radio, or perhaps etching the VIN on the air bag.>
That sounds fiendishly expensive - they'd either have to be done at > final assembly (or whenever the VIN is determined)



Not that expensive. Cheap laser-etching marker machines are commonly
available for this purpose, both for batch-numbering and serial numbering.

They're used to mark items where the usual inkjet marking would wear off,
and they're cheaper to run than inkjets, because of the costs of
consumables.


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The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hond­afaq/
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Alienguise 2 November 2005 20:22:59 permanent link ]
 the airbag warning light came on today it has came on before but went out on
it,s own after about an hour.i haven,t touch the bags or the dash in anyway.
is this normal or is the car just winding up.plus any ideas on the price for
2 abs wheel sensor leads.


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whitebro 21 August 2006 19:39:31 permanent link ]
 Alienguise, u should have ur airbags checked out.
Marcos, u didn't put ur club on properly. If u did put it on properly then that wood prevent it from being stolen.
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