Re: Installing Kill Switch on Honda Accord

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Re: Installing Kill Switch on Honda Accord
John Ings 26 March 2005 00:22:03
	On 25 Mar 2005 07:44:01 -0800, MajorSetback@excite.com wrote: I would like to install a kill switch on a 2000 Honda Accord LX. In the>past (with 80s model cars), I have simply connected a circuit breaker>to the active terminal of the battery. However, as I recall for those>days, the battery wires were pretty thin (like 12 gauge). So I could>just use 12 gauge wire that could easily fit into the kill switch>terminals (for the Toyota Corolla at least). However, the battery on my>current Honda is connected with large cables about a centimeter in>diameter. Do they carry much larger currents now? How much current is>usually involved? Your starter wants 50 amps or more. I need to ensure that the kill switch and wires can>handle the current. Where would be the best place to get a circuit>diagram? I would be most grateful for any suggestions. You can buy kill switches that are incorporated into a battery clamp if you really want to go the battery route, <http://new.minimania.com/web/AddedFrom/Suggest_invDetail/Item/NMC1050/InvDetail.cfm> But you'll have to re enter your radio code every time you use it, your car clock will forget what time it is, and your ECU will loose all its data from the past 10 starts. A simpler way with a cheaper switch is to look under the carpet on the driver's side for the wires going to the back. There are several, going to the gas guage and the fuel pump. Interrupt the one going to the fuel pump with a switch that's reachable with your left hand when sitting in the driver's seat. You'll need a look at a wiring diagram to get the color code for the wire. Usually it's yellow.
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Steve Bigelow 26 March 2005 00:27:11 [ permanent link ]
	"John Ings" <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message news:rkr841df6fus1toppm45nuki2q8mfcguph@4ax.com... You can buy kill switches that are incorporated into a battery clamp> if you really want to go the battery route,> <http://new.minimania.com/web/AddedFrom/Suggest_invDetail/Item/NMC1050/InvDetail.cfm>> But you'll have to re enter your radio code every time you use it,> your car clock will forget what time it is, and your ECU will loose> all its data from the past 10 starts. You just jumper across it with a fused wire, say 2 amps. It'll keep all your settings intact and clock running, but will blow on starter current draw.
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TomP 26 March 2005 01:16:44 [ permanent link ]
	Your car has the Honda Type II Imobilizer system; no "kill switch" needed. Your car won't start without the programmed key. MajorSetback@excite.com wrote: I would like to install a kill switch on a 2000 Honda Accord LX. In the> past (with 80s model cars), I have simply connected a circuit breaker> to the active terminal of the battery. However, as I recall for those> days, the battery wires were pretty thin (like 12 gauge). So I could> just use 12 gauge wire that could easily fit into the kill switch> terminals (for the Toyota Corolla at least). However, the battery on my> current Honda is connected with large cables about a centimeter in> diameter. Do they carry much larger currents now? How much current is> usually involved? I need to ensure that the kill switch and wires can> handle the current. Where would be the best place to get a circuit> diagram? I would be most grateful for any suggestions. -- Tp, -------- __o ----- -\<. -------- __o --- ( )/ ( ) ---- -\<. -------------------- ( )/ ( ) ----------------------------------------- No Lawsuit Ever Fixed A Moron...
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Shawn 26 March 2005 04:46:02 [ permanent link ]
	TomP <roadcyc@socal.rr.com> wrote: Your car has the Honda Type II Imobilizer system; no "kill switch">needed. Your car won't start without the programmed key. Do the thieves have a way around it. Obviously they could tow the vehicle, but I'm wondering if they have found a way to start the car and drive it away, yet?
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SoCalMike 26 March 2005 06:45:44 [ permanent link ]
	John Ings wrote:> A simpler way with a cheaper switch is to look under the carpet on the> driver's side for the wires going to the back. There are several,> going to the gas guage and the fuel pump. Interrupt the one going to> the fuel pump with a switch that's reachable with your left hand when> sitting in the driver's seat. You'll need a look at a wiring diagram> to get the color code for the wire. Usually it's yellow. they run through the cabin along the drivers side doorsill? hmmmm... ive been wanting to do something like that and not have to worry bout a crappy alarm.
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John Ings 26 March 2005 16:27:35 [ permanent link ]
	On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:45:44 -0800, SoCalMike <mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote: John Ings wrote:>> A simpler way with a cheaper switch is to look under the carpet on the>> driver's side for the wires going to the back. There are several,>> going to the gas guage and the fuel pump. Interrupt the one going to>> the fuel pump with a switch that's reachable with your left hand when>> sitting in the driver's seat. You'll need a look at a wiring diagram>> to get the color code for the wire. Usually it's yellow.> they run through the cabin along the drivers side doorsill? hmmmm... ive >been wanting to do something like that and not have to worry bout a >crappy alarm. It will stop someone driving the car away, but won't keep them from stealing your wheels, your battery and your radio, or towing the whole thing away!
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TomP 26 March 2005 18:59:17 [ permanent link ]
	shawn wrote: TomP <roadcyc@socal.rr.com> wrote:> Your car has the Honda Type II Imobilizer system; no "kill switch"> >needed. Your car won't start without the programmed key.> Do the thieves have a way around it. Obviously they could tow the> vehicle, but I'm wondering if they have found a way to start the car> and drive it away, yet? If they want Your car bad enough they will get it. Other than "jack you" or tow the car. There is no easy way around the Imobilizer system. Organized car thief's will always get their prey, but with Imobi System the "joy ride" thefts are all but history. -- Tp, -------- __o ----- -\<. -------- __o --- ( )/ ( ) ---- -\<. -------------------- ( )/ ( ) ----------------------------------------- No Lawsuit Ever Fixed A Moron...
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SoCalMike 26 March 2005 20:01:12 [ permanent link ]
	John Ings wrote:> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:45:44 -0800, SoCalMike> <mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote:> John Ings wrote:>> A simpler way with a cheaper switch is to look under the carpet on the>>>driver's side for the wires going to the back. There are several,>>>going to the gas guage and the fuel pump. Interrupt the one going to>>>the fuel pump with a switch that's reachable with your left hand when>>>sitting in the driver's seat. You'll need a look at a wiring diagram>>>to get the color code for the wire. Usually it's yellow.>> they run through the cabin along the drivers side doorsill? hmmmm... ive >>been wanting to do something like that and not have to worry bout a >>crappy alarm.> It will stop someone driving the car away, but won't keep them from> stealing your wheels, your battery and your radio, or towing the whole> thing away!> heh. its a CX hatch, still has the 14" steelies on it, and a blaupunkt 10 disc changer. the battery is OEM and still works great, too! so i guess theyll haveta tow it.
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Chip 26 March 2005 23:20:45 [ permanent link ]
	On 26 Mar 2005 10:02:57 -0800, MajorSetback@excite.com wrote: TomP wrote:>> Your car has the Honda Type II Imobilizer system; no "kill switch">> needed. Your car won't start without the programmed key.>> The issue arose when our keyless entry switch started playing up>(possibly due to an old battery). When my wife opened the door with>the key, the alarm went off. It was outside a gas station and a guy>from the gas station came out and started playing with this setup that>involved a red flashing light on the dash-board to the left of the>steering wheel (relative to the driver on a drive-on-the-right car).>By doing this, he was able to turn off the alarm system. I am now able>to open the door and start the car with just the physical key.> My question is this. If the guy from the gas station could disable the>alarm system, could a car thief not also disable the alarm system?>Would this not enable the thief to hotwire the car?> Thanks,>Peter. you have aftermarket keyless, he hit the valet button. everyone knows how to do that. as for starting an immobilizer car, if i find a way to turn the switch, like take it off the cylinder, the the brake code can be used to start it without a programmed key. Chip
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Mat 28 March 2005 20:16:07 [ permanent link ]
	You can buy kill switches that are incorporated into a battery clamp> if you really want to go the battery route,> <http://new.minimania.com/web/AddedFrom/Suggest_invDetail/Item/NMC1050/InvDetail.cfm>> Rememebr a couple of years ago when Diehard advertised a battery line with a a built in 'kill switch' and accompanying remote key fob. I thought it sounded neat but never looked into it further.
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