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Spare tire stuck.
Tim Zimmerman 8 March 2005 08:42:43
	I just had a flat tire. I get out, open the Civic trunk and find a spare tire, a jack and a lug wrench. Then I reach inside to grab the spare tire, it's stuck. Somehow the tire is bolted down with some kind of a rabbit ear nut. No matter how hard I try to twist it, the rabbit ears will not move. This was my scenario last night when I had to walk home two miles just to get a monkey wrench to twist the rabbit ears. If this were your car how would you do it differently? Thanks
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Timothy J. Lee 8 March 2005 09:18:35 [ permanent link ]
	In article <73aXd.5096$C47.404@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>, Tim Zimmerman <Z@UCBerkeley.edu> wrote:>If this were your car how would you do it differently? During periodic inspections of the tires, would have had to remove the spare tire to check its air pressure (assuming typical under the trunk floor mounting). At that time, would have made sure that the spare tire could have been removed without tools not normally carried in the car. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Timothy J. Lee Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome. No warranty of any kind is provided with this message.
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Rjdriver 8 March 2005 14:55:45 [ permanent link ]
	"Tim Zimmerman" <Z@UCBerkeley.edu> wrote in message news:73aXd.5096$C47.404@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...>I just had a flat tire. I get out, open the Civic trunk and find a spare >tire, a> jack and a lug wrench. Then I reach inside to grab the spare tire, it's > stuck.> Somehow the tire is bolted down with some kind of a rabbit ear nut. No> matter how hard I try to twist it, the rabbit ears will not move.> This was my scenario last night when I had to walk home two miles just> to get a monkey wrench to twist the rabbit ears. If this were your car how> would you do it differently?> Thanks Had a similar problem with a tire on the car (2003 EX with alloy wheels) recently. Went to remove to bring in for repair of slow leak. Wheel would not budge from the hub. Stuck tight. Banged with fist a few times. Nothing. Hit with rubber mallet a few times. Nothing. Hit over and over all around the wheel figuring it was just a little rust spot somewhere between wheel and hub that needed a little nudging. Still wouldn't budge. Began to get frustartaed. Hit even harder with rubber mallet. Was surpised to see it leave marks on the wheels. Put back against stone wall that runs along my driveway, kicked as hard as I could at 3 spots where rubber mets rim. Didn't even give the slightest hint of breaking loose, but almost knocked the car off the jack. Now I'm getting mad. And sore from all this kneeling, banging, and kicking. Got piece of 2 by 4 from workshop. Strapped to wheel with bungie cord. Took heavey metal hammer. Wound up like Tiger Woods for a 400 yard drive and smashed the hell at it. Yes - came loose. Lesson learned. A little grease where wheel meets hub before returning repaired tire to car. Wouldn't have expected the same situation the trunk. Moisture must be getting in there. Same solution should keep from happening again. Bob
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Nate Nagel 8 March 2005 16:05:12 [ permanent link ]
	Timothy J. Lee wrote: In article <73aXd.5096$C47.404@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>,> Tim Zimmerman <Z@UCBerkeley.edu> wrote:> If this were your car how would you do it differently?> During periodic inspections of the tires, would have had to remove the> spare tire to check its air pressure (assuming typical under the trunk> floor mounting). At that time, would have made sure that the spare> tire could have been removed without tools not normally carried in the> car.> Does anyone actually do this? I'm assuming that the tire is mounted "face up" of course. My situation is unique in that I have a collapsible spare (Porsche 944) so checking tire pressure is irrelevant. You also loosen the spare with the lug wrench so hopefully leverage wouldn't be an issue. nate -- replace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel
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Michael Pardee 8 March 2005 16:36:18 [ permanent link ]
	"Timothy J. Lee" <remove22@sonic.net> wrote in message news:d0jcjb$pbs$1@bolt.sonic.net...> In article <73aXd.5096$C47.404@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>,> Tim Zimmerman <Z@UCBerkeley.edu> wrote:>>If this were your car how would you do it differently?> During periodic inspections of the tires, would have had to remove the> spare tire to check its air pressure (assuming typical under the trunk> floor mounting). At that time, would have made sure that the spare> tire could have been removed without tools not normally carried in the> car.> Not me - I'd have taken Lawrence's approach. Then I would have gotten all mopey and searched for hours for the little devil and put a bit of lubricant - maybe petroleum jelly - on the threads to make it easier next time. Remorse, you know. Mike
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Slider 8 March 2005 17:13:47 [ permanent link ]
	in a nutshell..."grease is your friend!" "rjdriver" <rjdrivers@cox.net> wrote in message news:RwfXd.23825$Az.20927@lakeread02...> "Tim Zimmerman" <Z@UCBerkeley.edu> wrote in message> news:73aXd.5096$C47.404@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...> >I just had a flat tire. I get out, open the Civic trunk and find a spare> >tire, a> > jack and a lug wrench. Then I reach inside to grab the spare tire, it's> > stuck.> > Somehow the tire is bolted down with some kind of a rabbit ear nut. No> > matter how hard I try to twist it, the rabbit ears will not move.> > This was my scenario last night when I had to walk home two miles just> > to get a monkey wrench to twist the rabbit ears. If this were your car would you do it differently?> > Thanks> Had a similar problem with a tire on the car (2003 EX with alloy> wheels) recently.> Went to remove to bring in for repair of slow leak. Wheel would not> budge from the hub. Stuck tight. Banged with fist a few times. Nothing.> Hit with rubber mallet a few times. Nothing. Hit over and over all around> the wheel figuring it was just a little rust spot somewhere between wheel> and hub that needed a little nudging. Still wouldn't budge.> Began to get frustartaed. Hit even harder with rubber mallet. Was> surpised to see it leave marks on the wheels. Put back against stone wall> that runs along my driveway, kicked as hard as I could at 3 spots where> rubber mets rim. Didn't even give the slightest hint of breaking loose, almost knocked the car off the jack. Now I'm getting mad. And sore from> all this kneeling, banging, and kicking. Got piece of 2 by 4 from workshop.> Strapped to wheel with bungie cord. Took heavey metal hammer. Wound up> like Tiger Woods for a 400 yard drive and smashed the hell at it. Yes -> came loose.> Lesson learned. A little grease where wheel meets hub before returning> repaired tire to car.> Wouldn't have expected the same situation the trunk. Moisture must be> getting in there. Same solution should keep from happening again.>
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Al Bundy 8 March 2005 17:30:46 [ permanent link ]
	Bob, in you case I would have loosened the lug nuts about 1/8" and lowered the car partially to put some weight on it. Then I'd wiggle the car back and forth. That should have don it.
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Guest 8 March 2005 19:49:13 [ permanent link ]
	Larry: What are you doing out of the MS reservation? I try to avoid this by checking the spare tire preasure every oil change. And to chekc the preasure you have to remove the spare. Terry
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Motsco_ _ 8 March 2005 20:32:13 [ permanent link ]
	Tim Zimmerman wrote:> I just had a flat tire. I get out, open the Civic trunk and find a spare tire, a> jack and a lug wrench. Then I reach inside to grab the spare tire, it's stuck.> Somehow the tire is bolted down with some kind of a rabbit ear nut. No> matter how hard I try to twist it, the rabbit ears will not move.> This was my scenario last night when I had to walk home two miles just> to get a monkey wrench to twist the rabbit ears. If this were your car how> would you do it differently?> Thanks ----------------------- That's why its important for a guy to make sure his spouse / s.o. knows how to change a tire for themselves. You get out the manual and read thru it together, then you see if you can do it. This exercise also gives you the opportunity to find out whether your tire shop has been using air tools to make sure your lugs nuts won't fall off "before the end of the Universe", as was mentioned by another poster. I had to put a 7' bar on the lug wrench to get the wheels off my old Aerostar. 'Curly'
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Timothy J. Lee 8 March 2005 21:57:55 [ permanent link ]
	In article <lu2dnUBiOoNkCbDfRVn-pA@comcast.com>, Nate Nagel <njnagel@flycast.net> wrote:>Timothy J. Lee wrote:>> During periodic inspections of the tires, would have had to remove the>> spare tire to check its air pressure (assuming typical under the trunk>> floor mounting). At that time, would have made sure that the spare>> tire could have been removed without tools not normally carried in the>> car.> Does anyone actually do this? I'm assuming that the tire is mounted >"face up" of course. On many cars, the spare tire is in the well face down, so it must be removed to check the pressure. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Timothy J. Lee Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome. No warranty of any kind is provided with this message.
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Alex Rodriguez 8 March 2005 22:16:25 [ permanent link ]
	In article <73aXd.5096$C47.404@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>, Z@UCBerkeley.edu says...> I just had a flat tire. I get out, open the Civic trunk and find a spare tire, jack and a lug wrench. Then I reach inside to grab the spare tire, it's stuck.>Somehow the tire is bolted down with some kind of a rabbit ear nut. No>matter how hard I try to twist it, the rabbit ears will not move.> This was my scenario last night when I had to walk home two miles just>to get a monkey wrench to twist the rabbit ears. If this were your car how>would you do it differently? Us the tire iron to persuade the nut loose. A few choice words would also help. Just make sure no children are around. --------------- Alex
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Brian Smith 8 March 2005 22:27:23 [ permanent link ]
	"Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in message news:d0kq2g$56l$4@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu...> Us the tire iron to persuade the nut loose. A few > choice words would also> help. Just make sure no children are around. Now-a-days the children can teach us new words {;^) Brian
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Michael Pardee 8 March 2005 22:40:11 [ permanent link ]
	"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message news:f8mXd.9774$i6.2299@edtnps90...> "Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in message > news:d0kq2g$56l$4@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu...>> Us the tire iron to persuade the nut loose. A few choice words would >> also>> help. Just make sure no children are around. > Now-a-days the children can teach us new words {;^)> Brian> I use the German approach - I use the same old words but string them together to make inventive 8, 12, or 16 letter words. Longer ones confuse and make me gasp for breath. Mike
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Brian Smith 8 March 2005 22:46:36 [ permanent link ]
	"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message news:eoGdnU-xzIwRbLDfRVn-hg@sedona.net...> I use the German approach - I use the same old words > but string them together to make inventive 8, 12, or > 16 letter words. Longer ones confuse and make me gasp > for breath. LOL! That would work.
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Mista Bone 9 March 2005 01:09:37 [ permanent link ]
	A little antisieze compound on the threads does wonders. Then find the water leak that caused the rust of the bolt. "Tim Zimmerman" <Z@UCBerkeley.edu> wrote in message news:73aXd.5096$C47.404@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...> I just had a flat tire. I get out, open the Civic trunk and find a spare tire, a> jack and a lug wrench. Then I reach inside to grab the spare tire, it's stuck.> Somehow the tire is bolted down with some kind of a rabbit ear nut. No> matter how hard I try to twist it, the rabbit ears will not move.> This was my scenario last night when I had to walk home two miles just> to get a monkey wrench to twist the rabbit ears. If this were your car how> would you do it differently?> Thanks>
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BillyBBad 9 March 2005 02:09:12 [ permanent link ]
	On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 04:42:43 GMT, "Tim Zimmerman" <Z@UCBerkeley.edu> wrote: I just had a flat tire. I get out, open the Civic trunk and find a spare tire, a>jack and a lug wrench. Then I reach inside to grab the spare tire, it's stuck.>Somehow the tire is bolted down with some kind of a rabbit ear nut. No>matter how hard I try to twist it, the rabbit ears will not move.> This was my scenario last night when I had to walk home two miles just>to get a monkey wrench to twist the rabbit ears. If this were your car how>would you do it differently?> Thanks I would've called my road service. I can usually walk 5-10 miles before they show up, but hey, flats always occur on my rides farther from home than even that. I guess I might have tried the lug wrench handle for some leverage, but maybe you couldn't get it down there far enough. I bet you though, somewhere deep in the "lubrication points" of your owner's manual, it would've told you that every year or so (about the same time it tells you to lube door hinges) to lightly coat the threads of the rod with the nut with some motor oil to help thwart rusting.
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Lawrence Glickman 9 March 2005 06:55:00 [ permanent link ]
	On 8 Mar 2005 07:49:13 -0800, r2000swler@hotmail.com wrote: Larry:>What are you doing out of the MS reservation? The Night Nurse wasn't at her desk and I sneaked out of the ward for a while. I try to avoid this by checking the spare tire preasure>every oil change. And to chekc the preasure you have to>remove the spare. You only have to flip it over ONCE. And then, LEAVE IT FLIPPED OVER, valve side up. What could be more simple? Terry
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K`Tetch 9 March 2005 07:58:11 [ permanent link ]
	On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 04:42:43 GMT, "Tim Zimmerman" <Z@UCBerkeley.edu> wrote: I just had a flat tire. I get out, open the Civic trunk and find a spare tire, a>jack and a lug wrench. Then I reach inside to grab the spare tire, it's stuck.>Somehow the tire is bolted down with some kind of a rabbit ear nut. No>matter how hard I try to twist it, the rabbit ears will not move.> This was my scenario last night when I had to walk home two miles just>to get a monkey wrench to twist the rabbit ears. If this were your car how>would you do it differently? I always keep a few basic tools, like channel-lock plyers, few screwdrivers, and a DMM in each of my vehicles. Never know when you'll need them. these few tools will pack nice and easily in a bag, and can go wither inside the spare, or under one of the seats. "Be Prepaired" Thanks>
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Michael Pardee 9 March 2005 08:03:17 [ permanent link ]
	"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote in message news:s7ps21luq03m0cupsb9u6tf028gu3tdm5q@4ax.com...> On 8 Mar 2005 07:49:13 -0800, r2000swler@hotmail.com wrote:> Larry:>>What are you doing out of the MS reservation?> The Night Nurse wasn't at her desk and I sneaked out of the ward for a> while.> Ooh, I hate that Nurse Ratchet so much! Mike
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Guest 9 March 2005 16:54:34 [ permanent link ]
	In the 1991 Civic if you have the spare upside down, it will bounce all over the cavity under the rear deck. Very noisy. On a rough road it sounds like tjhe rear end is falling off. Terry
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Lawrence Glickman 9 March 2005 20:31:33 [ permanent link ]
	On 9 Mar 2005 04:54:34 -0800, r2000swler@hotmail.com wrote: In the 1991 Civic if you have the spare upside down, it will bounce all>over>the cavity under the rear deck. Very noisy. On a rough road it sounds>like>tjhe rear end is falling off.>Terry can you secure it with a bungee cord or two?
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Motsco_ _ 9 March 2005 20:52:58 [ permanent link ]
	r2000swler@hotmail.com wrote:> In the 1991 Civic if you have the spare upside down, it will bounce all> over> the cavity under the rear deck. Very noisy. On a rough road it sounds> like> tjhe rear end is falling off.> Terry ----------------------- Don't worry about the rear end. It fell off my Honda too, and it still drives fine 'Curly'
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Michael Pardee 10 March 2005 03:25:29 [ permanent link ]
	"Backbone" <backboneaccessflaps@flapscomcast.net> wrote in message > Hypothetical question: It's Saturday Morning you have just broke down somewhere> in the Arizona Desert. Road map indicates that there is a town just 2 > miles> ahead. Town contains: A restaurant, one motel, a towing facility and an > auto> parts store that's open 7 days a week. The Auto parts store sells > how-to-books> and rents tools. There is an auto repair facility 50+ miles away that's > open 5> days a week and closed on weekends you have no tools, no experience as an > auto> mechanic. And you need to be in California 300 miles away by Monday > morning!> What do you do next, what's the scenario that follows?> Step one: don't try to walk to the town. As a Zonie for the last 30 years, I've learned that much. Stay with the car until help comes, one way or another. Drinking water is more important than a tool box. Shade is more important than water. True story.... 27 years ago we were on a family vacation when the timing belt failed on our Mercury Capri, Sunday morning between Palmdale and Lancaster in the California high desert... a day's travel from home. I had a tool box and Chilton's manual. A good samaritan took me to a gas station where I called around and found a store with a timing belt. Then he took me there and to our car (thanks eternally, Mr. Horn, wherever you are!) The engine was non-interference and the crank pulley didn't have to come off to get the cover off, so we were back on our way a few hours later. There is a God! Mike
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Mat 10 March 2005 08:23:55 [ permanent link ]
	I always keep a few basic tools, like channel-lock plyers, few> screwdrivers, and a DMM in each of my vehicles. Never know when you'll> need them. these few tools will pack nice and easily in a bag, and can> go wither inside the spare, or under one of the seats. "Be Prepaired" Once I read in the group that x-mm socket/wrench is the most common in Hondas. Does someone remember that value? (As in 9mm, 12mm.)
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Nick Huckaby 10 March 2005 09:30:26 [ permanent link ]
	"MAT" <marcoatRM_@SPAM_hotmail.com> wrote Once I read in the group that x-mm socket/wrench is the most common in> Hondas. Does someone remember that value? (As in 9mm, 12mm.) You can bascially take any Honda apart with: a) 1 - 8mm socket b) 1 - 10mm socket c) 1 - 12mm socket d) 1 - 14mm socket e) 1 - 17mm socket f) 1 - 19mm socket g) 1 -13/16" or 5/8"socket for plugs a) 1 - 8mm box wrench b) 1 - 10mm box wrench c) 1 - 12mm box wrench d) 1 - 14mm box wrench e) 1 - 17mm box wrench f) 1 - 19mm box wrench g) 1 - philips screw driver h) 1 - lobe of a brain -- Huckaby
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Nick Huckaby 10 March 2005 09:42:33 [ permanent link ]
	"K`Tetch" <no.email@here.for.you> wrote I always keep a few basic tools, like channel-lock plyers, few> screwdrivers, and a DMM in each of my vehicles. Never know when you'll> need them. these few tools will pack nice and easily in a bag, and can> go wither inside the spare, or under one of the seats. "Be Prepaired" I wanted my wife to carry these basic tools but she insist that a cell phone works just as well. Doesn't make sense when there are regions where cell phone receptions don't work
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Michael Pardee 10 March 2005 16:30:12 [ permanent link ]
	"MAT" <marcoatRM_@SPAM_hotmail.com> wrote in message news:G_ednY9EA4ddVrLfRVn-3w@comcast.com...> I always keep a few basic tools, like channel-lock plyers, few>> screwdrivers, and a DMM in each of my vehicles. Never know when you'll>> need them. these few tools will pack nice and easily in a bag, and can>> go wither inside the spare, or under one of the seats. "Be Prepaired"> Once I read in the group that x-mm socket/wrench is the most common in > Hondas. Does someone remember that value? (As in 9mm, 12mm.)> There are a few sizes, depending on the beefiness of the hardware. 10 mm is very popular for light stuff, while 12, 13, 14, 15, 17 and 19 mm are progressively heavier. 11, 16 and 18 mm are really rare. The 17 mm and especially the 19 mm are for serious stuff, so the 10-15 except 11 will fit 95% of the roadside needs. Honda is also enamored of 10 mm 12 point hardware, but mainly deeper inside things (like holding steering knuckles onto hubs... grr!). Mike
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K`Tetch 10 March 2005 17:42:04 [ permanent link ]
	On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 21:42:33 -0800, "Nick Huckaby" <simoung@gmail.comREMOVESPAM> wrote: "K`Tetch" <no.email@here.for.you> wrote> I always keep a few basic tools, like channel-lock plyers, few>> screwdrivers, and a DMM in each of my vehicles. Never know when you'll>> need them. these few tools will pack nice and easily in a bag, and can>> go wither inside the spare, or under one of the seats. "Be Prepaired"> I wanted my wife to carry these basic tools but she insist that a cell>phone works just as well. Doesn't make sense when there are>regions where cell phone receptions don't work Yep, and thats the case around here. even on the US highways, its patchy at best. i even had problems in the UK, on the motoreways, with a cellphone going flat (and when the alternator goes, doesn't matter if you have a car charger either) - was stuck in the country overnight , got to -6C that night too.
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