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Re: Honda-Powered SATURN VUE ?

Dave 11 February 2005 15:44:57
 In article <16765-420C3A55-240­@storefull-3277.bay.­webtv.net>, ARCADIA@webtv.net (Scott) wrote:
So, I'm curious if anyone else out there had been aware that the V-6>Saturn Vues are Honda-powered?

Yes. Old news. The deal was made around 2002. The Honda V6 and
5-speed auto was put in Vues, I believe, starting with '04 models.
As to the claim that it is a V6 *not* used in Hondas, that is news
to me. And I don't think it is an accurate statement. Honda
wouldn't make such a small run engine just for a partnership. It
is made at the same plant as v6's for Accords, Pilots,
Odysseys. If it is thrashier (don't know if that is the case), it
is probably due to the application. Things like plastic body
panels, amount of sound insulation, and engine mounts can make a
big difference in perceived refinement.
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Elmo P. Shagnasty 11 February 2005 21:56:27 permanent link ]
 In article <16765-420C3A55-240­@storefull-3277.bay.­webtv.net>,
ARCADIA@webtv.net (Scott) wrote:
So, I'm curious if anyone else out there had been aware that the V-6> Saturn Vues are Honda-powered?

Yep. Common knowledge around here for quite awhile.

Saturn is contractually obligated to keep it very low key; there's no
Honda label of any kind anywhere on the car, for example. I'm surprised
that the auto show guy said anything about it.

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Christopherm Wood 12 February 2005 01:06:39 permanent link ]
 Acctually, Saturn used Honda's engine a while ago in some of their
earlier sc models. GMs own engine in the car didn't live very long. (I
forget the exact problem, but I think it was head gasket failure.)

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Dave 12 February 2005 03:40:41 permanent link ]
 In article <1108155999.393601.­145530@l41g2000cwc.g­ooglegroups.com>, christopherm_wood@h­otmail.com wrote:>Acctually, Saturn used Honda's engine a while ago in some of their>earlier sc models. GMs own engine in the car didn't live very long. (I>forget the exact problem, but I think it was head gasket failure.)


Huh? Where did you come up with this?
The small Saturns had lost-foam cast 1.9L engines, SOHC and DOHC.
Made, IIRC, in Tonawanda NY. No Honda engine like this comes to
mind. The newer small Saturns have the GM Ecotec 2.2L engine.
This is absolutely a GM engine. Tonawanda and Spring Hill.

The LS used the same 2.2 or a GM U.K. supplied 3.0L-6.
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Dave 12 February 2005 17:01:29 permanent link ]
 In article <TNWdnYGLV6RxFJDfRV­n-rQ@comcast.com>, SoCalMike <mikein562athotmail­@hotmail.com> wrote:
its GMs answer for everything, basically
[blah, blah]

Excuse me, but you don't know what you are talking about. Have a
nice day.
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Kenneth J. Harris 12 February 2005 19:27:52 permanent link ]
 You are correct--it's the 3.5L engine, not the 3.0

SandroF1 wrote:> Errr, this is NOT the Accord V6. This is the V6 from the Pilot/last gen Ody.>
"Kenneth J. Harris" <kharris@suffolk.li­b.ny.us> wrote in message news:<eI3Pd.586$Eo2­.518@fe11.lga>...>
Same engine as in V6 Accords. Slight modifications to produce 250 HP >>for the Vue application instead of the 240 in the Accord.>>
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Mike Smith 14 February 2005 04:43:26 permanent link ]
 Dave wrote:
In article <16765-420C3A55-240­@storefull-3277.bay.­webtv.net>, ARCADIA@webtv.net (Scott) wrote:>
So, I'm curious if anyone else out there had been aware that the V-6>>Saturn Vues are Honda-powered?>
Yes. Old news. The deal was made around 2002. The Honda V6 and > 5-speed auto was put in Vues, I believe, starting with '04 models. > As to the claim that it is a V6 *not* used in Hondas, that is news > to me. And I don't think it is an accurate statement. Honda > wouldn't make such a small run engine just for a partnership. It > is made at the same plant as v6's for Accords, Pilots, > Odysseys.

The V6 in the Accord (3.0L) is not the same as the one in the Pilot,
Odyssey, and Acura MDX (3.5L). The one in the VUE is the 3.5L, IIRC.
Earlier VUE models had the GM 3.0V6 from the LS2/L300; I don't know if
that one is still available in the VUE.

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Mike S
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Dave 14 February 2005 16:20:41 permanent link ]
 In article <110vt1f4ci8ro16@ne­ws.supernews.com>, Mike Smith <mike_UNDERSCORE_sm­ith@acm.DOT.org> wrote:
The V6 in the Accord (3.0L) is not the same as the one in the Pilot, >Odyssey, and Acura MDX (3.5L). The one in the VUE is the 3.5L, IIRC.

Yup.
Earlier VUE models had the GM 3.0V6 from the LS2/L300; I don't know if >that one is still available in the VUE.

Nope (well, at least I'm pretty sure it is "no"). The 3.0V6 was a
GM engine made in the UK. It had been used for years in the Opel
Omega. If you have a link to a reputable source that says
otherwise, I'd be interested.
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Mike Smith 19 February 2005 23:37:37 permanent link ]
 Dave wrote:
In article <110vt1f4ci8ro16@ne­ws.supernews.com>, Mike Smith <mike_UNDERSCORE_sm­ith@acm.DOT.org> wrote:>
The V6 in the Accord (3.0L) is not the same as the one in the Pilot, >>Odyssey, and Acura MDX (3.5L). The one in the VUE is the 3.5L, IIRC. >
Yup.>
Earlier VUE models had the GM 3.0V6 from the LS2/L300; I don't know if >>that one is still available in the VUE.>
Nope (well, at least I'm pretty sure it is "no"). The 3.0V6 was a > GM engine made in the UK.

Yup, which is also where the 3.0V6 in the LS2/L300 came from.

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Mike Smith
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Dave 20 February 2005 00:07:45 permanent link ]
 In article <111f5bmmkeg83ce@ne­ws.supernews.com>, Mike Smith <mike_UNDERSCORE_sm­ith@acm.DOT.org> wrote:>Dave wrote:
Earlier VUE models had the GM 3.0V6 from the LS2/L300; I don't know if >>>that one is still available in the VUE.>>
Nope (well, at least I'm pretty sure it is "no"). The 3.0V6 was a >> GM engine made in the UK. >
Yup, which is also where the 3.0V6 in the LS2/L300 came from.


Sorry, brain spasm. You wrote "GM", I somehow read "old Honda".
Mea Culpa.

And no, the 3.0V6 is no longer available in the VUE. It is either
the Honda 3.5-6 or the GM 2.2-4.
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