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I passed emissions!

Testy 24 March 2005 02:34:40
 Just to let everyone know, my 91 Civic passed emissions with flying colors!
The new cat dropped my CO, hydrocarbon, and oxides of nitrogen down to
practically nothing. A dramatic difference! Even though carbon dioxide
levels don't count they do measure them and they were way down as well.

Hopefully I can drive the Civic until my van is paid off. :)­ My daughter
is 13 and it would be a great car for her to learn with.

Just an aside...even though emissions testing is a pain I wholeheartedly
support the program. I think Maryland's plan is fair - $14 for the first
test, if you pass you're good for two years. If you fail the second test is
free and they give you a list of troubleshooting ideas. Subsequent tests
are $14 and they end up giving you something like 6-8 months to correct the
problem. If it still won't pass you can get a 2 year waiver if you can show
repair receipts for at least $450. Sure it costs money, but if you pass
(like most people do) it's $14 every 2 years. A paltry sum when you
consider the benefit to the environment. If you fail you may have to spend
a few bucks, in my case about $350. But I did get a tuneup and a new cat
out of the deal. My car's running great and I've minimized my contribution
to air pollution. Win-win.

Thanks again for all the help from the folks here at alt.autos.honda!


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Eric 24 March 2005 02:56:45 permanent link ]
 testy wrote:>
Just to let everyone know, my 91 Civic passed emissions with flying> colors! The new cat dropped my CO, hydrocarbon, and oxides of nitrogen> down to practically nothing. A dramatic difference! Even though carbon> dioxide levels don't count they do measure them and they were way down as> well.

If I remember correctly, CO2 is measured to indicate if there are
significant exhaust leaks in the system. CO2 is a normal product of burning
a hydrocarbon. If the levels are too low, then it indicates that there's a
leak and that the other numbers are probably artificially low since not all
of the exhaust gasses are reaching the test station's probe.

Eric
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TeGGer® 24 March 2005 05:37:21 permanent link ]
 "testy" <mikfaitdiespamdie@­yahoo.com> wrote in
news:4am0e.601$Ax.1­61@trnddc04:
Just to let everyone know, my 91 Civic passed emissions with flying> colors! The new cat dropped my CO, hydrocarbon, and oxides of nitrogen> down to practically nothing.



Numbers please! ppm and %, before and after.

I have a vested interest in this, since after nearly 250K miles my cat's
toast. I passed by ONE (1) ppm on NO two years ago. HC ond CO were still
very low.

Next test for me is this summer, and I expect to fail with my original cat.

Did you use an aftermarket cat, and if so, how'd it fit?


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TeGGer® 24 March 2005 06:15:50 permanent link ]
 Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote in news:4241F42D.8EF2F­816@spam.now:
testy wrote:>>
Just to let everyone know, my 91 Civic passed emissions with flying>> colors! The new cat dropped my CO, hydrocarbon, and oxides of>> nitrogen down to practically nothing. A dramatic difference! Even>> though carbon dioxide levels don't count they do measure them and>> they were way down as well.>
If I remember correctly, CO2 is measured to indicate if there are> significant exhaust leaks in the system.


CO2 is an indication of good combustion. You want HIGH numbers. In the
ASM2525 tests common in North America, CO2 is used as a datum.

CO2 is a normal product of> burning a hydrocarbon. If the levels are too low, then it indicates> that there's a leak and that the other numbers are probably> artificially low since not all of the exhaust gasses are reaching the> test station's probe.


That's called "dilution". That's where ambient air characteristics are
compared against exhaust gases. It's pretty complicated.
http://www.pacode.c­om/secure/data/067/c­hapter177/subchapFto­c.html


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Chris Jones 24 March 2005 09:55:54 permanent link ]
 
"testy" <mikfaitdiespamdie@­yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4am0e.601$Ax.1­61@trnddc04...>
Just an aside...even though emissions testing is a pain I wholeheartedly> support the program. I think Maryland's plan is fair - $14 for the first> test, if you pass you're good for two years. If you fail the second test > is> free and they give you a list of troubleshooting ideas. Subsequent tests> are $14 and they end up giving you something like 6-8 months to correct > the> problem. If it still won't pass you can get a 2 year waiver if you can > show> repair receipts for at least $450. Sure it costs money, but if you pass> (like most people do) it's $14 every 2 years. A paltry sum when you> consider the benefit to the environment. If you fail you may have to > spend> a few bucks, in my case about $350. But I did get a tuneup and a new cat> out of the deal. My car's running great and I've minimized my > contribution> to air pollution. Win-win.>
Thanks again for all the help from the folks here at alt.autos.honda!>

Sounds like the smog test in California about 10 years ago - no big deal as
long as you took basic care of your car. Today, it is obnoxious. There are
different types of tests, testing stations and at a cost of $50 per test
pass or not. Lots of fraud in the past that has been addressed by more
procedures. To appease new car buyers, DMV allows for a "smog abatement
fee" in lieu of a smog for the first 5 years of a new car. Smog cert (or
abatement) became a revenue source for the state instead of a clean air
initiative - I hope MD stays simple...


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