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CarGuru > Honda > 05 Accord, engine flutters and other various problems 24 April 2005 19:29:53

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05 Accord, engine flutters and other various problems
Elmo 18 April 2005 00:00:37
	Hi, got a 05 accord w/ 4000 miles on it (4 cylinder engine), I've recently noticed that after the engine has warmed up and I'm idling in DRIVE, I can feel slight vibration from the steering wheel and a slight 'fluttering' sound from the engine, when I put the gear in neutral or park the fluttering sound seems to go away. I also hear those 'whining' sound which increases in pitch as accelerate from a dead stop, it You guys got any idea what this could be? I dont wanna take it to the dealer and have him say "I cant hear anything" or "this is normal". I can assure you these problems did not exist before. I'm very disappointed with this car, I thought I wouldn't have problems like these if I bought a Honda, another annoying problems: 1) Paint peeling off back bumper (will the dealer replace it or jus paint it?) 2) when wind shield wipers are engaged, I can feel the pulse of them working when i have my foot on the brake pedal 3) air leak from the passenger side door while doing 65+mph 4)creaking sound from un even surfaces from the drivers side dash near the tweater
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Jason 18 April 2005 06:06:49 [ permanent link ]
	Hello, I suggest that you take it to the service department and ask to speak to the manager of the service department. Tell him or her everything you stated below. Make sure that all of these problems are taken care of while the vehicle is still under warranty. Does anyone in this newsgroup know whether or not this vehicle could be covered by the lemon law? If so, please post. Jason In article <Ffz8e.63875$NC6.42341@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net>, "elmo" <fake@fake.com> wrote: Hi, got a 05 accord w/ 4000 miles on it (4 cylinder engine), I've recently noticed that after the engine has warmed up and I'm idling in DRIVE, I can > feel slight vibration from the steering wheel and a slight 'fluttering' > sound from the engine, when I put the gear in neutral or park the fluttering > sound seems to go away. I also hear those 'whining' sound which increases > in pitch as accelerate from a dead stop, it You guys got any idea what this > could be? I dont wanna take it to the dealer and have him say "I cant hear > anything" or "this is normal".> I can assure you these problems did not exist before.> I'm very disappointed with this car, I thought I wouldn't have problems like > these if I bought a Honda, another annoying problems:> 1) Paint peeling off back bumper (will the dealer replace it or jus paint > it?)> 2) when wind shield wipers are engaged, I can feel the pulse of them working > when i have my foot on the brake pedal> 3) air leak from the passenger side door while doing 65+mph> 4)creaking sound from un even surfaces from the drivers side dash near the > tweater -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people.
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Dave Kelsen 18 April 2005 06:35:57 [ permanent link ]
	On 4/17/2005 9:06 PM Jason spake these words of knowledge: Hello,> I suggest that you take it to the service department and ask to speak to> the manager of the service department. Tell him or her everything you> stated below. Make sure that all of these problems are taken care of while> the vehicle is still under warranty. Does anyone in this newsgroup know> whether or not this vehicle could be covered by the lemon law? If so,> please post.> Jason First, so-called 'Lemon laws' are enacted by state legislatures; they vary from state to state - some states do not have any laws that would fall into this category with respect to automobiles. In order to determine applicability, you would need to know the state that the OP purchased the vehicle in. Second, most automobile lemon laws refer to an avenue for returning a vehicle within a specific time frame when the dealer has been unable (or unwilling, in some cases) to satisfactorily address a specific problem after several (generally three or more) attempts to fix that problem. Unless there is more to the story than has been given, the law of most states would not apply to this vehicle. RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- ... "I went to watch Pavarotti once. He doesn't like it when you join in." - Mick Miller
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Jeff Foster 18 April 2005 17:02:46 [ permanent link ]
	"elmo" <fake@fake.com> wrote in message news:Ffz8e.63875$NC6.42341@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net...> Hi, got a 05 accord w/ 4000 miles on it (4 cylinder engine), I've recently > noticed that after the engine has warmed up and I'm idling in DRIVE, I can > feel slight vibration from the steering wheel and a slight 'fluttering' > sound from the engine, when I put the gear in neutral or park the > fluttering sound seems to go away. I also hear those 'whining' sound > which increases in pitch as accelerate from a dead stop, it You guys got > any idea what this could be? I dont wanna take it to the dealer and have > him say "I cant hear anything" or "this is normal".> 1) Paint peeling off back bumper (will the dealer replace it or jus paint > it?)> 2) when wind shield wipers are engaged, I can feel the pulse of them > working when i have my foot on the brake pedal> 3) air leak from the passenger side door while doing 65+mph> 4)creaking sound from un even surfaces from the drivers side dash near the > tweater> With problems 1, 3, and 4, it sounds like the car amy have been in a collision and was repaired poorly. How much do you know about the history of the car? You don't state whether you bought the car from a dealer or an individual. I would suspect that either one was not entirely forthcoming about the history of the car. Just because a dealer sold it (if you bought from a dealer) doesn't mean that they will be any more honest with you than anyone else. I once bought a 1999 Pontiac Firebird that I suspected numerous times of having been in an accident. I had no way to prove it. The dealer had a body shop on site, so if someone had wrecked it on a test drive, the dealer could have repaired it without anyone ever recording the damage. As for the problem of the steering wheel vibration, turn your air conditioner off. The problem should go away. Pretty much, all Honda's have that steering wheel vibration when the A/C is turned on. The A/C compressor places an additional strain on the engine that is noticable at idle and causes that vibration. There is nothing wrong with it. If you turn off the A/C and the steering wheel is still vibrating, then you do have a problem and should take it to a dealer for repair. Jeff
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Howard Lester 19 April 2005 05:27:04 [ permanent link ]
	"Jeff Foster" wrote As for the problem of the steering wheel vibration, turn your air> conditioner off. The problem should go away. Pretty much, all Honda's have> that steering wheel vibration when the A/C is turned on. The A/C compressor> places an additional strain on the engine that is noticable at idle and> causes that vibration. There is nothing wrong with it. My '04 4-cyl auto Accord does not vibrate when the a/c is engaged.
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Hondaman 19 April 2005 07:33:08 [ permanent link ]
	it does sound like you may have bought one that was in an accident and maybe the door and bumprer were replaced. if you got a real good deal on it, be happy and the air leak in the door can probably be fixed by a simple hinge adjustment. if it's supposed to be brand new i would be upset and demand a trade for a different one. all hondas have the rumbly steering wheel i think. the power steering they use seems more powerful than other cars and the trade off may be a slight vibration in your steering wheel. find out the history of your car and decide what you want to do. i bet its still a wonderful car and much better than the competition. jeff "elmo" <fake@fake.com> wrote in message news:Ffz8e.63875$NC6.42341@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net...> Hi, got a 05 accord w/ 4000 miles on it (4 cylinder engine), I've recently > noticed that after the engine has warmed up and I'm idling in DRIVE, I can > feel slight vibration from the steering wheel and a slight 'fluttering' > sound from the engine, when I put the gear in neutral or park the > fluttering sound seems to go away. I also hear those 'whining' sound > which increases in pitch as accelerate from a dead stop, it You guys got > any idea what this could be? I dont wanna take it to the dealer and have > him say "I cant hear anything" or "this is normal".> I can assure you these problems did not exist before.> I'm very disappointed with this car, I thought I wouldn't have problems > like these if I bought a Honda, another annoying problems:> 1) Paint peeling off back bumper (will the dealer replace it or jus paint > it?)> 2) when wind shield wipers are engaged, I can feel the pulse of them > working when i have my foot on the brake pedal> 3) air leak from the passenger side door while doing 65+mph> 4)creaking sound from un even surfaces from the drivers side dash near the > tweater>
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Mjc 23 April 2005 00:55:51 [ permanent link ]
	I have a 2004 Accord EX Coupe and there has been a creaking noise coming from the top left side of dash since day 1. There is also a loose feeling drivers seat that Honda refuses to repair under warranty. Welcome to Honda's declining quality. It is unlikely that the service department will find and fix the problem, You will have to turn up your radio to mask it. I also had a 98 accord 4cyl which you would feel engine vibration through the steering wheel. They consider this to be a normal Honda trait. Pretty much anything they don't feel like fixing will be dismissed as normal. Lemon laws do not apply to rattles, vibrations and annoyances. Only to mechanical troubles or prolonged loss of use. When I attempted to get my 2004 Accord loose drivers seat issue resolved by contacting a Honda Regional Rep. I was told that the seat works as it was engineered to. I then asked him if there was a reason that Honda engineers put that much play into the seat. His response again was " The seat works as it was engineered " and "Didn't you notice it was loose when you took the car for a test drive" Honda quality is definitely in decline. "hondaman" <jeffscomp@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:UZ_8e.282$fw2.156@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...> it does sound like you may have bought one that was in an accident and maybe> the door and bumprer were replaced. if you got a real good deal on it, be> happy and the air leak in the door can probably be fixed by a simple hinge> adjustment. if it's supposed to be brand new i would be upset and demand a> trade for a different one. all hondas have the rumbly steering wheel i> think. the power steering they use seems more powerful than other cars and> the trade off may be a slight vibration in your steering wheel. find out history of your car and decide what you want to do. i bet its still a> wonderful car and much better than the competition.> jeff> "elmo" <fake@fake.com> wrote in message> news:Ffz8e.63875$NC6.42341@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net...> > Hi, got a 05 accord w/ 4000 miles on it (4 cylinder engine), I've recently> > noticed that after the engine has warmed up and I'm idling in DRIVE, I feel slight vibration from the steering wheel and a slight 'fluttering'> > sound from the engine, when I put the gear in neutral or park the> > fluttering sound seems to go away. I also hear those 'whining' sound> > which increases in pitch as accelerate from a dead stop, it You guys any idea what this could be? I dont wanna take it to the dealer and have> > him say "I cant hear anything" or "this is normal".> > I can assure you these problems did not exist before.> > I'm very disappointed with this car, I thought I wouldn't have problems> > like these if I bought a Honda, another annoying problems:> > 1) Paint peeling off back bumper (will the dealer replace it or jus paint> > it?)> > 2) when wind shield wipers are engaged, I can feel the pulse of them> > working when i have my foot on the brake pedal> > 3) air leak from the passenger side door while doing 65+mph> > 4)creaking sound from un even surfaces from the drivers side dash near tweater> >
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Michael Pardee 23 April 2005 02:05:42 [ permanent link ]
	It sounds like you are having more trouble with the service department there brushing you off than you are having with the Honda build quality. So, if you test drive an identical model does the seat have the same problem? Mike
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Mjc 23 April 2005 19:47:27 [ permanent link ]
	Took my 2004 Accord to 2 dealerships. Each one said the seat movement was normal. Called Honda consumer relations and a representative called me back and said the seat performs as it was designed. I spoke to another 2004 Accord coupe owner I met in a parking lot and he has the same loose seat feel. Was also told by Honda service department that this is normal. Owner also once owned a prelude and didn't have a seat problem. If you read the business sections, Honda sales have fallen compared to other Japanese makes. "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message news:iJOdnYw2gY2l6PTfRVn-ig@sedona.net...> It sounds like you are having more trouble with the service department there> brushing you off than you are having with the Honda build quality.> So, if you test drive an identical model does the seat have the same> problem?> Mike>
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Halo2 Guy 24 April 2005 19:29:53 [ permanent link ]
	Yes...our 2004 Accord LX has that annoying seat movement while driving. I keep thinking it isn't locked in place or something. After reading everything here though I will make no attempt at the dealer to repair it. "MJC" <mjcanedo@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:j6uae.10554$yq6.9788@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...> Took my 2004 Accord to 2 dealerships. Each one said the seat movement was> normal. Called Honda consumer relations and a representative called me > back> and said the seat performs as it was designed.> I spoke to another 2004 Accord coupe owner I met in a parking lot and he > has> the same loose seat feel. Was also told by Honda service department that> this is normal. Owner also once owned a prelude and didn't have a seat> problem.> If you read the business sections, Honda sales have fallen compared to > other> Japanese makes.> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message> news:iJOdnYw2gY2l6PTfRVn-ig@sedona.net...>> It sounds like you are having more trouble with the service department> there>> brushing you off than you are having with the Honda build quality.>> So, if you test drive an identical model does the seat have the same>> problem?>> Mike>>
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