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Harry Face 4 May 2005 02:54:30
 Well Ladies the day is finally here. It wasn't as painful as I thought
it be but I broke down and purchased my sixth car Monday afternoon.
Picked it up Tuesday morning.

2005 Buick Park Avenue with 13,650 miles on it. You may wonder why it
has 13,650 miles on it. Well its a rental car buy back from Alamo in
Boca Raton, Florida.

I know we've had Mass Debation's on the pros & cons of buying fleet /
rental cars as we all know how drivers tend to drive something that
doesn't belong to them.

Let me start out buy saying I didn't set out to buy a rental car - it
just ended up to be one. Its a base Park Ave with no option packages add
- but does have the radio upgrade to the AM- FM CD / Cassette.

Last week there was a very close threat that car # 6 was going to be a
charcoal grey 03 Lincoln Town Car. If it wasn't for the fact it had the
California emissions system I would of bought it. But I still had the
General in mind - as I have been with General M since 1980.

A mechanic friend of mine works at the Buick Olds Caddy dealer I got the
car at. Last year he gave me a salesmans card that might be able to give
me a good deal.
I still had the card here at home.

A Buick dealer in Villa Park IL had the same identical Park only it had
18,050 miles on it and had also been rear ended.
The repairs were noticeable.

The I stopped at my friends work place two Sundays ago. When I saw it I
thought oh chit not that f' in Bronzemist again. Reading the window
sticker for 05 the came out with Cashmere Metallic.
I looked at it, looked inside and noticed no Driver Info Center, no
memory seat, buttons, no heated seat buttons and no OnStar Mirror. Uh Oh
! No options, must be a rental. Look further down the sticker and see
the miles - 13, 644, yep, rental.

The RR quarter has four tiny scratches, two might rub out with compound,
the rear bumper cover has the classic drag over scratches from suit
cases being unloaded.
Doors, fenders, hood, roof were perfect.
Interior was spotless, no stains, tears or wear marks / creases in the
leather.

This car was parked on a raised concrete platform along with other
vehicles and backed up to the edge. I was able to almost stand under the
back end of the car. No rust underneath, no damage from bottoming out,
no evidence of it being rear ended, no color fading from salt, the wheel
well liners were still bright black. This can't be a Chicago car.

Monday morning my buddy at the Chevy dealer run the Vin number.

Alamo Rental - Boca Raton, FLa.
Built in June 2004

The only service record shown was replacement of the trunk latch
striker. Maybe it got bent, possible a suit case strap hooked it &
somebody pulled like hell on it?

For a rental car this one was the best looking one I've seen with
virtually no damage, just cosmetic stuff. Even the matts are clean.
This type of car usually is rented by older people, Parks are usually
$99 a day cars and 20 year olds and young parents with kids want a
cheaper sedan to rent.

I went to the dealer with this information, saw my mechanic friend first
- then he tells me the dude won't get in till 1pm, Arghhhhh. I go do
lunch, go home and come back about 2 pm.

I tell him about how my buddy works here and he said you might be able
to work out a better deal for me. Kind of like the Insiders deal
Seinfelt got from Puddy at the Saab dealer.

Salesman let me drive the car alone, took it for about a 20 mile ride.
Rode great, handled well, no wind noises, no troubles. Everything seemed
to be functioning as it should. I forgot to bring a CD & tape to try,
but oh well. Had the car up to 90 mph.

I pulled back the trunk trim looking for pull out marks on the inside of
the quarter panels - there were none. No flooding evidence - though I
wonder how the car did in the 4 hurricanes in FLA last summer. Of course
the car might of been in Ohio at the time.

When I got back my buddy hoisted it up and we gave the bottom end a
good looking over. Again - no undercarriage damage, there weren't even
any jacking marks on the jack points. No leaks, Wow an oil filter free
and clear of the frame rail - whatta yah know ! No more mess changing
oil.

I wasn't to thrilled with the absence of the grease fittings on the ties
rods and ball joints. My Mechanic leaned over & whispered its a good
car. The 3800 V6 has all kinds of room around it to work on.

I mentioned the Villa Park twin to the salesman and told him it was
$24,999 with 18,000 miles on it. His reply was they could knock some off
of this one.

The window sticker said $27,999 I was also told it was advertised (
website ? ) for $29,999 I didn't see it advertised in the paper, but
was shown a print out from their website with a picture of the car &
options. When we got to his desk he come to me with a figure of $25,500,
plus tax, title, license etc. SOLD !

So I bought the car, rather a pleasant experience, I told the sales man
no extended warranty, Me or Phillip are the extended warranty, I also
mentioned my Big Al discount on parts at Chevy dealer and the salesman
replied, " You can't beat that".

The GM Certified Warranty extends it to JUne 2007 or 39,010 miles
whichever comes first.

No telling how long I'll own it. Might be 3, 4, 5 years. Might be 14
years. I might go ga - ga over the 07 Impala SS, or the 07 425 horsepwer
hemi Charger, who knows.

The salesman asked if I was trading in a vehicle-___________­__________Oh
let me tell you about that " vehicle " I currently drive. He sat there
quietly , smiling, listening in amazement at the monumental
accomplishments of the 300,000 mile Bonneville.

At this time I plan on keeping the Bonneville for awhile, just in case
the Park decides it rather be parked than driveable.

Alot depends on whether I get tired of it hanging around. It might have
to be jockeyed for position on the driveway, the garage, the street. All
I know is its gonna be hard to part with when that time comes.

The new car is a base Park Avenue with cashmere metallic ( gold looking
) exterior with a cashmere leather interior,
Power front seats, Elec Climate Control, AM FM CD Cass, power everything
really, 19.0 cubic foot trunk. Two remotes, two keys, leather steering
wheel with AC/ Radio controls built in. 16 inch Aluminum wheels.

CLEAN DEX COOL - so far!
Hello Intake gaskets, how are we today?

$120 for the Service Manual - Currently studing the Owners Manual, which
I was given a new one to replace the missing one.

One click of the parking brake does NOT turn off the DRL's !!

To J C REEVES - Help me man ! How do I disable the DRL's ? , the
automatic headlights ?.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH­AHAHA.

I'm not touching nothing. LOL.

Wish me luck.

Harryface
2005 Buick Park Avenue 13,672 miles
1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE
303,030 miles









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Shep 4 May 2005 03:11:00 permanent link ]
 Cool, Hary, nice car, I've driven a few of these in my repair shop, mostly
2001-2003's. Good luck!
"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.ne­t> wrote in message
news:35-42780126-56­1@storefull-3113.bay­.webtv.net...> Well Ladies the day is finally here. It wasn't as painful as I thought> it be but I broke down and purchased my sixth car Monday afternoon.> Picked it up Tuesday morning.>
2005 Buick Park Avenue with 13,650 miles on it. You may wonder why it> has 13,650 miles on it. Well its a rental car buy back from Alamo in> Boca Raton, Florida.>
I know we've had Mass Debation's on the pros & cons of buying fleet /> rental cars as we all know how drivers tend to drive something that> doesn't belong to them.>
Let me start out buy saying I didn't set out to buy a rental car - it> just ended up to be one. Its a base Park Ave with no option packages add> - but does have the radio upgrade to the AM- FM CD / Cassette.>
Last week there was a very close threat that car # 6 was going to be a> charcoal grey 03 Lincoln Town Car. If it wasn't for the fact it had the> California emissions system I would of bought it. But I still had the> General in mind - as I have been with General M since 1980.>
A mechanic friend of mine works at the Buick Olds Caddy dealer I got the> car at. Last year he gave me a salesmans card that might be able to give> me a good deal.> I still had the card here at home.>
A Buick dealer in Villa Park IL had the same identical Park only it had> 18,050 miles on it and had also been rear ended.> The repairs were noticeable.>
The I stopped at my friends work place two Sundays ago. When I saw it I> thought oh chit not that f' in Bronzemist again. Reading the window> sticker for 05 the came out with Cashmere Metallic.> I looked at it, looked inside and noticed no Driver Info Center, no> memory seat, buttons, no heated seat buttons and no OnStar Mirror. Uh Oh> ! No options, must be a rental. Look further down the sticker and see> the miles - 13, 644, yep, rental.>
The RR quarter has four tiny scratches, two might rub out with compound,> the rear bumper cover has the classic drag over scratches from suit> cases being unloaded.> Doors, fenders, hood, roof were perfect.> Interior was spotless, no stains, tears or wear marks / creases in the> leather.>
This car was parked on a raised concrete platform along with other> vehicles and backed up to the edge. I was able to almost stand under the> back end of the car. No rust underneath, no damage from bottoming out,> no evidence of it being rear ended, no color fading from salt, the wheel> well liners were still bright black. This can't be a Chicago car.>
Monday morning my buddy at the Chevy dealer run the Vin number.>
Alamo Rental - Boca Raton, FLa.> Built in June 2004>
The only service record shown was replacement of the trunk latch> striker. Maybe it got bent, possible a suit case strap hooked it &> somebody pulled like hell on it?>
For a rental car this one was the best looking one I've seen with> virtually no damage, just cosmetic stuff. Even the matts are clean.> This type of car usually is rented by older people, Parks are usually> $99 a day cars and 20 year olds and young parents with kids want a> cheaper sedan to rent.>
I went to the dealer with this information, saw my mechanic friend first> - then he tells me the dude won't get in till 1pm, Arghhhhh. I go do> lunch, go home and come back about 2 pm.>
I tell him about how my buddy works here and he said you might be able> to work out a better deal for me. Kind of like the Insiders deal> Seinfelt got from Puddy at the Saab dealer.>
Salesman let me drive the car alone, took it for about a 20 mile ride.> Rode great, handled well, no wind noises, no troubles. Everything seemed> to be functioning as it should. I forgot to bring a CD & tape to try,> but oh well. Had the car up to 90 mph.>
I pulled back the trunk trim looking for pull out marks on the inside of> the quarter panels - there were none. No flooding evidence - though I> wonder how the car did in the 4 hurricanes in FLA last summer. Of course> the car might of been in Ohio at the time.>
When I got back my buddy hoisted it up and we gave the bottom end a> good looking over. Again - no undercarriage damage, there weren't even> any jacking marks on the jack points. No leaks, Wow an oil filter free> and clear of the frame rail - whatta yah know ! No more mess changing> oil.>
I wasn't to thrilled with the absence of the grease fittings on the ties> rods and ball joints. My Mechanic leaned over & whispered its a good> car. The 3800 V6 has all kinds of room around it to work on.>
I mentioned the Villa Park twin to the salesman and told him it was> $24,999 with 18,000 miles on it. His reply was they could knock some off> of this one.>
The window sticker said $27,999 I was also told it was advertised (> website ? ) for $29,999 I didn't see it advertised in the paper, but> was shown a print out from their website with a picture of the car &> options. When we got to his desk he come to me with a figure of $25,500,> plus tax, title, license etc. SOLD !>
So I bought the car, rather a pleasant experience, I told the sales man> no extended warranty, Me or Phillip are the extended warranty, I also> mentioned my Big Al discount on parts at Chevy dealer and the salesman> replied, " You can't beat that".>
The GM Certified Warranty extends it to JUne 2007 or 39,010 miles> whichever comes first.>
No telling how long I'll own it. Might be 3, 4, 5 years. Might be 14> years. I might go ga - ga over the 07 Impala SS, or the 07 425 horsepwer> hemi Charger, who knows.>
The salesman asked if I was trading in a vehicle-___________­__________Oh> let me tell you about that " vehicle " I currently drive. He sat there> quietly , smiling, listening in amazement at the monumental> accomplishments of the 300,000 mile Bonneville.>
At this time I plan on keeping the Bonneville for awhile, just in case> the Park decides it rather be parked than driveable.>
Alot depends on whether I get tired of it hanging around. It might have> to be jockeyed for position on the driveway, the garage, the street. All> I know is its gonna be hard to part with when that time comes.>
The new car is a base Park Avenue with cashmere metallic ( gold looking> ) exterior with a cashmere leather interior,> Power front seats, Elec Climate Control, AM FM CD Cass, power everything> really, 19.0 cubic foot trunk. Two remotes, two keys, leather steering> wheel with AC/ Radio controls built in. 16 inch Aluminum wheels.>
CLEAN DEX COOL - so far!> Hello Intake gaskets, how are we today?>
$120 for the Service Manual - Currently studing the Owners Manual, which> I was given a new one to replace the missing one.>
One click of the parking brake does NOT turn off the DRL's !!>
To J C REEVES - Help me man ! How do I disable the DRL's ? , the> automatic headlights ?.>
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH­AHAHA.>
I'm not touching nothing. LOL.>
Wish me luck.>
Harryface> 2005 Buick Park Avenue 13,672 miles> 1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE> 303,030 miles>



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James C. Reeves 4 May 2005 03:24:37 permanent link ]
 Congrats on the car HarryFace! I like the Buicks.

I can't help with your request for help in disabling the DRLs and auto
headlamps though. If I could have gotten *anyone* to help me get rid of
those annoying features, I'd probably still have that Malibu I once owned.
But, no big deal, really. I'm extremely pleased with the Sebring I replaced
it with (coming up on 2-years now...not a single problem with it so far and
all systems function like a "normal" car should).


"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.ne­t> wrote in message
news:35-42780126-56­1@storefull-3113.bay­.webtv.net...> Well Ladies the day is finally here. It wasn't as painful as I thought> it be but I broke down and purchased my sixth car Monday afternoon.> Picked it up Tuesday morning.>
2005 Buick Park Avenue with 13,650 miles on it. You may wonder why it> has 13,650 miles on it. Well its a rental car buy back from Alamo in> Boca Raton, Florida.>
I know we've had Mass Debation's on the pros & cons of buying fleet /> rental cars as we all know how drivers tend to drive something that> doesn't belong to them.>
Let me start out buy saying I didn't set out to buy a rental car - it> just ended up to be one. Its a base Park Ave with no option packages add> - but does have the radio upgrade to the AM- FM CD / Cassette.>
Last week there was a very close threat that car # 6 was going to be a> charcoal grey 03 Lincoln Town Car. If it wasn't for the fact it had the> California emissions system I would of bought it. But I still had the> General in mind - as I have been with General M since 1980.>
A mechanic friend of mine works at the Buick Olds Caddy dealer I got the> car at. Last year he gave me a salesmans card that might be able to give> me a good deal.> I still had the card here at home.>
A Buick dealer in Villa Park IL had the same identical Park only it had> 18,050 miles on it and had also been rear ended.> The repairs were noticeable.>
The I stopped at my friends work place two Sundays ago. When I saw it I> thought oh chit not that f' in Bronzemist again. Reading the window> sticker for 05 the came out with Cashmere Metallic.> I looked at it, looked inside and noticed no Driver Info Center, no> memory seat, buttons, no heated seat buttons and no OnStar Mirror. Uh Oh> ! No options, must be a rental. Look further down the sticker and see> the miles - 13, 644, yep, rental.>
The RR quarter has four tiny scratches, two might rub out with compound,> the rear bumper cover has the classic drag over scratches from suit> cases being unloaded.> Doors, fenders, hood, roof were perfect.> Interior was spotless, no stains, tears or wear marks / creases in the> leather.>
This car was parked on a raised concrete platform along with other> vehicles and backed up to the edge. I was able to almost stand under the> back end of the car. No rust underneath, no damage from bottoming out,> no evidence of it being rear ended, no color fading from salt, the wheel> well liners were still bright black. This can't be a Chicago car.>
Monday morning my buddy at the Chevy dealer run the Vin number.>
Alamo Rental - Boca Raton, FLa.> Built in June 2004>
The only service record shown was replacement of the trunk latch> striker. Maybe it got bent, possible a suit case strap hooked it &> somebody pulled like hell on it?>
For a rental car this one was the best looking one I've seen with> virtually no damage, just cosmetic stuff. Even the matts are clean.> This type of car usually is rented by older people, Parks are usually> $99 a day cars and 20 year olds and young parents with kids want a> cheaper sedan to rent.>
I went to the dealer with this information, saw my mechanic friend first> - then he tells me the dude won't get in till 1pm, Arghhhhh. I go do> lunch, go home and come back about 2 pm.>
I tell him about how my buddy works here and he said you might be able> to work out a better deal for me. Kind of like the Insiders deal> Seinfelt got from Puddy at the Saab dealer.>
Salesman let me drive the car alone, took it for about a 20 mile ride.> Rode great, handled well, no wind noises, no troubles. Everything seemed> to be functioning as it should. I forgot to bring a CD & tape to try,> but oh well. Had the car up to 90 mph.>
I pulled back the trunk trim looking for pull out marks on the inside of> the quarter panels - there were none. No flooding evidence - though I> wonder how the car did in the 4 hurricanes in FLA last summer. Of course> the car might of been in Ohio at the time.>
When I got back my buddy hoisted it up and we gave the bottom end a> good looking over. Again - no undercarriage damage, there weren't even> any jacking marks on the jack points. No leaks, Wow an oil filter free> and clear of the frame rail - whatta yah know ! No more mess changing> oil.>
I wasn't to thrilled with the absence of the grease fittings on the ties> rods and ball joints. My Mechanic leaned over & whispered its a good> car. The 3800 V6 has all kinds of room around it to work on.>
I mentioned the Villa Park twin to the salesman and told him it was> $24,999 with 18,000 miles on it. His reply was they could knock some off> of this one.>
The window sticker said $27,999 I was also told it was advertised (> website ? ) for $29,999 I didn't see it advertised in the paper, but> was shown a print out from their website with a picture of the car &> options. When we got to his desk he come to me with a figure of $25,500,> plus tax, title, license etc. SOLD !>
So I bought the car, rather a pleasant experience, I told the sales man> no extended warranty, Me or Phillip are the extended warranty, I also> mentioned my Big Al discount on parts at Chevy dealer and the salesman> replied, " You can't beat that".>
The GM Certified Warranty extends it to JUne 2007 or 39,010 miles> whichever comes first.>
No telling how long I'll own it. Might be 3, 4, 5 years. Might be 14> years. I might go ga - ga over the 07 Impala SS, or the 07 425 horsepwer> hemi Charger, who knows.>
The salesman asked if I was trading in a vehicle-___________­__________Oh> let me tell you about that " vehicle " I currently drive. He sat there> quietly , smiling, listening in amazement at the monumental> accomplishments of the 300,000 mile Bonneville.>
At this time I plan on keeping the Bonneville for awhile, just in case> the Park decides it rather be parked than driveable.>
Alot depends on whether I get tired of it hanging around. It might have> to be jockeyed for position on the driveway, the garage, the street. All> I know is its gonna be hard to part with when that time comes.>
The new car is a base Park Avenue with cashmere metallic ( gold looking> ) exterior with a cashmere leather interior,> Power front seats, Elec Climate Control, AM FM CD Cass, power everything> really, 19.0 cubic foot trunk. Two remotes, two keys, leather steering> wheel with AC/ Radio controls built in. 16 inch Aluminum wheels.>
CLEAN DEX COOL - so far!> Hello Intake gaskets, how are we today?>
$120 for the Service Manual - Currently studing the Owners Manual, which> I was given a new one to replace the missing one.>
One click of the parking brake does NOT turn off the DRL's !!>
To J C REEVES - Help me man ! How do I disable the DRL's ? , the> automatic headlights ?.>
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH­AHAHA.>
I'm not touching nothing. LOL.>
Wish me luck.>
Harryface> 2005 Buick Park Avenue 13,672 miles> 1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE> 303,030 miles>


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Vince 4 May 2005 03:41:39 permanent link ]
 Congratulations Harry. I thought for sure you would purchase a brand new
car since you keep your cars a long time.
You are taking a risk buying a car with the 3800 Series II. My 01 impala
with the Series II had the leaking at only 20K miles and they did nothing
but replace the cooler gasket (that's what it said on the invoice) and later
installed the walnut shells as a sealant with the recall. You would have
been a lot safer with the Series II engines that have the aluminum intake
manifold.
You never know you might get lucky and the issues will be resolved when
under warranty.
Vince


"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.ne­t> wrote in message
news:35-42780126-56­1@storefull-3113.bay­.webtv.net...> Well Ladies the day is finally here. It wasn't as painful as I thought> it be but I broke down and purchased my sixth car Monday afternoon.> Picked it up Tuesday morning.>
2005 Buick Park Avenue with 13,650 miles on it. You may wonder why it> has 13,650 miles on it. Well its a rental car buy back from Alamo in> Boca Raton, Florida.>
I know we've had Mass Debation's on the pros & cons of buying fleet /> rental cars as we all know how drivers tend to drive something that> doesn't belong to them.>
Let me start out buy saying I didn't set out to buy a rental car - it> just ended up to be one. Its a base Park Ave with no option packages add> - but does have the radio upgrade to the AM- FM CD / Cassette.>
Last week there was a very close threat that car # 6 was going to be a> charcoal grey 03 Lincoln Town Car. If it wasn't for the fact it had the> California emissions system I would of bought it. But I still had the> General in mind - as I have been with General M since 1980.>
A mechanic friend of mine works at the Buick Olds Caddy dealer I got the> car at. Last year he gave me a salesmans card that might be able to give> me a good deal.> I still had the card here at home.>
A Buick dealer in Villa Park IL had the same identical Park only it had> 18,050 miles on it and had also been rear ended.> The repairs were noticeable.>
The I stopped at my friends work place two Sundays ago. When I saw it I> thought oh chit not that f' in Bronzemist again. Reading the window> sticker for 05 the came out with Cashmere Metallic.> I looked at it, looked inside and noticed no Driver Info Center, no> memory seat, buttons, no heated seat buttons and no OnStar Mirror. Uh Oh> ! No options, must be a rental. Look further down the sticker and see> the miles - 13, 644, yep, rental.>
The RR quarter has four tiny scratches, two might rub out with compound,> the rear bumper cover has the classic drag over scratches from suit> cases being unloaded.> Doors, fenders, hood, roof were perfect.> Interior was spotless, no stains, tears or wear marks / creases in the> leather.>
This car was parked on a raised concrete platform along with other> vehicles and backed up to the edge. I was able to almost stand under the> back end of the car. No rust underneath, no damage from bottoming out,> no evidence of it being rear ended, no color fading from salt, the wheel> well liners were still bright black. This can't be a Chicago car.>
Monday morning my buddy at the Chevy dealer run the Vin number.>
Alamo Rental - Boca Raton, FLa.> Built in June 2004>
The only service record shown was replacement of the trunk latch> striker. Maybe it got bent, possible a suit case strap hooked it &> somebody pulled like hell on it?>
For a rental car this one was the best looking one I've seen with> virtually no damage, just cosmetic stuff. Even the matts are clean.> This type of car usually is rented by older people, Parks are usually> $99 a day cars and 20 year olds and young parents with kids want a> cheaper sedan to rent.>
I went to the dealer with this information, saw my mechanic friend first> - then he tells me the dude won't get in till 1pm, Arghhhhh. I go do> lunch, go home and come back about 2 pm.>
I tell him about how my buddy works here and he said you might be able> to work out a better deal for me. Kind of like the Insiders deal> Seinfelt got from Puddy at the Saab dealer.>
Salesman let me drive the car alone, took it for about a 20 mile ride.> Rode great, handled well, no wind noises, no troubles. Everything seemed> to be functioning as it should. I forgot to bring a CD & tape to try,> but oh well. Had the car up to 90 mph.>
I pulled back the trunk trim looking for pull out marks on the inside of> the quarter panels - there were none. No flooding evidence - though I> wonder how the car did in the 4 hurricanes in FLA last summer. Of course> the car might of been in Ohio at the time.>
When I got back my buddy hoisted it up and we gave the bottom end a> good looking over. Again - no undercarriage damage, there weren't even> any jacking marks on the jack points. No leaks, Wow an oil filter free> and clear of the frame rail - whatta yah know ! No more mess changing> oil.>
I wasn't to thrilled with the absence of the grease fittings on the ties> rods and ball joints. My Mechanic leaned over & whispered its a good> car. The 3800 V6 has all kinds of room around it to work on.>
I mentioned the Villa Park twin to the salesman and told him it was> $24,999 with 18,000 miles on it. His reply was they could knock some off> of this one.>
The window sticker said $27,999 I was also told it was advertised (> website ? ) for $29,999 I didn't see it advertised in the paper, but> was shown a print out from their website with a picture of the car &> options. When we got to his desk he come to me with a figure of $25,500,> plus tax, title, license etc. SOLD !>
So I bought the car, rather a pleasant experience, I told the sales man> no extended warranty, Me or Phillip are the extended warranty, I also> mentioned my Big Al discount on parts at Chevy dealer and the salesman> replied, " You can't beat that".>
The GM Certified Warranty extends it to JUne 2007 or 39,010 miles> whichever comes first.>
No telling how long I'll own it. Might be 3, 4, 5 years. Might be 14> years. I might go ga - ga over the 07 Impala SS, or the 07 425 horsepwer> hemi Charger, who knows.>
The salesman asked if I was trading in a vehicle-___________­__________Oh> let me tell you about that " vehicle " I currently drive. He sat there> quietly , smiling, listening in amazement at the monumental> accomplishments of the 300,000 mile Bonneville.>
At this time I plan on keeping the Bonneville for awhile, just in case> the Park decides it rather be parked than driveable.>
Alot depends on whether I get tired of it hanging around. It might have> to be jockeyed for position on the driveway, the garage, the street. All> I know is its gonna be hard to part with when that time comes.>
The new car is a base Park Avenue with cashmere metallic ( gold looking> ) exterior with a cashmere leather interior,> Power front seats, Elec Climate Control, AM FM CD Cass, power everything> really, 19.0 cubic foot trunk. Two remotes, two keys, leather steering> wheel with AC/ Radio controls built in. 16 inch Aluminum wheels.>
CLEAN DEX COOL - so far!> Hello Intake gaskets, how are we today?>
$120 for the Service Manual - Currently studing the Owners Manual, which> I was given a new one to replace the missing one.>
One click of the parking brake does NOT turn off the DRL's !!>
To J C REEVES - Help me man ! How do I disable the DRL's ? , the> automatic headlights ?.>
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH­AHAHA.>
I'm not touching nothing. LOL.>
Wish me luck.>
Harryface> 2005 Buick Park Avenue 13,672 miles> 1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE> 303,030 miles>


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Panos Popadopalous 4 May 2005 03:55:11 permanent link ]
 
"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.ne­t> wrote in message
news:35-42780126-56­1@storefull-3113.bay­.webtv.net...> Well Ladies the day is finally here. It wasn't as painful as I thought> it be but I broke down and purchased my sixth car Monday afternoon.> Picked it up Tuesday morning.>
2005 Buick Park Avenue with 13,650 miles on it. You may wonder why it> has 13,650 miles on it. Well its a rental car buy back from Alamo in> Boca Raton, Florida.>
I know we've had Mass Debation's on the pros & cons of buying fleet /> rental cars as we all know how drivers tend to drive something that> doesn't belong to them.>
Let me start out buy saying I didn't set out to buy a rental car - it> just ended up to be one. Its a base Park Ave with no option packages add> - but does have the radio upgrade to the AM- FM CD / Cassette.>
Last week there was a very close threat that car # 6 was going to be a> charcoal grey 03 Lincoln Town Car. If it wasn't for the fact it had the> California emissions system I would of bought it. But I still had the> General in mind - as I have been with General M since 1980.>
A mechanic friend of mine works at the Buick Olds Caddy dealer I got the> car at. Last year he gave me a salesmans card that might be able to give> me a good deal.> I still had the card here at home.>
A Buick dealer in Villa Park IL had the same identical Park only it had> 18,050 miles on it and had also been rear ended.> The repairs were noticeable.>
The I stopped at my friends work place two Sundays ago. When I saw it I> thought oh chit not that f' in Bronzemist again. Reading the window> sticker for 05 the came out with Cashmere Metallic.> I looked at it, looked inside and noticed no Driver Info Center, no> memory seat, buttons, no heated seat buttons and no OnStar Mirror. Uh Oh> ! No options, must be a rental. Look further down the sticker and see> the miles - 13, 644, yep, rental.>
The RR quarter has four tiny scratches, two might rub out with compound,> the rear bumper cover has the classic drag over scratches from suit> cases being unloaded.> Doors, fenders, hood, roof were perfect.> Interior was spotless, no stains, tears or wear marks / creases in the> leather.>
This car was parked on a raised concrete platform along with other> vehicles and backed up to the edge. I was able to almost stand under the> back end of the car. No rust underneath, no damage from bottoming out,> no evidence of it being rear ended, no color fading from salt, the wheel> well liners were still bright black. This can't be a Chicago car.>
Monday morning my buddy at the Chevy dealer run the Vin number.>
Alamo Rental - Boca Raton, FLa.> Built in June 2004>
The only service record shown was replacement of the trunk latch> striker. Maybe it got bent, possible a suit case strap hooked it &> somebody pulled like hell on it?>
For a rental car this one was the best looking one I've seen with> virtually no damage, just cosmetic stuff. Even the matts are clean.> This type of car usually is rented by older people, Parks are usually> $99 a day cars and 20 year olds and young parents with kids want a> cheaper sedan to rent.>
I went to the dealer with this information, saw my mechanic friend first> - then he tells me the dude won't get in till 1pm, Arghhhhh. I go do> lunch, go home and come back about 2 pm.>
I tell him about how my buddy works here and he said you might be able> to work out a better deal for me. Kind of like the Insiders deal> Seinfelt got from Puddy at the Saab dealer.>
Salesman let me drive the car alone, took it for about a 20 mile ride.> Rode great, handled well, no wind noises, no troubles. Everything seemed> to be functioning as it should. I forgot to bring a CD & tape to try,> but oh well. Had the car up to 90 mph.>
I pulled back the trunk trim looking for pull out marks on the inside of> the quarter panels - there were none. No flooding evidence - though I> wonder how the car did in the 4 hurricanes in FLA last summer. Of course> the car might of been in Ohio at the time.>
When I got back my buddy hoisted it up and we gave the bottom end a> good looking over. Again - no undercarriage damage, there weren't even> any jacking marks on the jack points. No leaks, Wow an oil filter free> and clear of the frame rail - whatta yah know ! No more mess changing> oil.>
I wasn't to thrilled with the absence of the grease fittings on the ties> rods and ball joints. My Mechanic leaned over & whispered its a good> car. The 3800 V6 has all kinds of room around it to work on.>
I mentioned the Villa Park twin to the salesman and told him it was> $24,999 with 18,000 miles on it. His reply was they could knock some off> of this one.>
The window sticker said $27,999 I was also told it was advertised (> website ? ) for $29,999 I didn't see it advertised in the paper, but> was shown a print out from their website with a picture of the car &> options. When we got to his desk he come to me with a figure of $25,500,> plus tax, title, license etc. SOLD !>
So I bought the car, rather a pleasant experience, I told the sales man> no extended warranty, Me or Phillip are the extended warranty, I also> mentioned my Big Al discount on parts at Chevy dealer and the salesman> replied, " You can't beat that".>
The GM Certified Warranty extends it to JUne 2007 or 39,010 miles> whichever comes first.>
No telling how long I'll own it. Might be 3, 4, 5 years. Might be 14> years. I might go ga - ga over the 07 Impala SS, or the 07 425 horsepwer> hemi Charger, who knows.>
The salesman asked if I was trading in a vehicle-___________­__________Oh> let me tell you about that " vehicle " I currently drive. He sat there> quietly , smiling, listening in amazement at the monumental> accomplishments of the 300,000 mile Bonneville.>
At this time I plan on keeping the Bonneville for awhile, just in case> the Park decides it rather be parked than driveable.>
Alot depends on whether I get tired of it hanging around. It might have> to be jockeyed for position on the driveway, the garage, the street. All> I know is its gonna be hard to part with when that time comes.>
The new car is a base Park Avenue with cashmere metallic ( gold looking> ) exterior with a cashmere leather interior,> Power front seats, Elec Climate Control, AM FM CD Cass, power everything> really, 19.0 cubic foot trunk. Two remotes, two keys, leather steering> wheel with AC/ Radio controls built in. 16 inch Aluminum wheels.>
CLEAN DEX COOL - so far!> Hello Intake gaskets, how are we today?>
$120 for the Service Manual - Currently studing the Owners Manual, which> I was given a new one to replace the missing one.>
One click of the parking brake does NOT turn off the DRL's !!>
To J C REEVES - Help me man ! How do I disable the DRL's ? , the> automatic headlights ?.>
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH­AHAHA.>
I'm not touching nothing. LOL.>
Wish me luck.>
Harryface> 2005 Buick Park Avenue 13,672 miles> 1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE> 303,030 miles


Hi Harry!

I read your very interesting dissertation on your new used car.

IMHO there is nothing wrong with buying a former rental car.

Seems to me they are usually checked over very well each time turned back in
to Rental Source.

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Paul 4 May 2005 04:29:18 permanent link ]
 Harry Face wrote:>
Well Ladies the day is finally here. It wasn't as painful as I thought> it be but I broke down and purchased my sixth car Monday afternoon.> Picked it up Tuesday morning.>
2005 Buick Park Avenue with 13,650 miles on it. You may wonder why it> has 13,650 miles on it. Well its a rental car buy back from Alamo in> Boca Raton, Florida.

Congrats Harry!
Good car.
My 92 Grand Am is an ex-rental, 6 months old, 27k miles.
It now has between 185k and 225k (I ruined the odo once with
carb cleaner and had to get a new one).
Son's new car is a 04 Dodge Stratus ex-rental.
My last Buick was an ex-rental, 6 months, 23k miles, got rid of it
at 257k miles, still running good but was beginning to show a little wear.
Paul.
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Al Haunts 4 May 2005 04:40:47 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 3 May 2005 17:54:30 -0500, harryface@webtv.net­ (Harry Face)
wrote:
Well Ladies the day is finally here. It wasn't as painful as I thought>it be but I broke down and purchased my sixth car Monday afternoon.>Picked it up Tuesday morning.>
2005 Buick Park Avenue with 13,650 miles on it.

HF, congrats on the '05 PA. I, for one, look forward to reading about
your exploits with the new wheels as I have for the past while about
the '91 Bonney. Glad you stayed with the General, despite the
naysayers around us!!

Regards, Al.

'99 Malibu
168,262 km
(104,553 miles & counting)

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Vince 4 May 2005 04:50:22 permanent link ]
 Typo. I should have typed Series III engines with the aluminum intake
manifold.

"vince" <vmark(nospam)99@te­lus.net> wrote in message
news:T_Tde.29965$tg­1.23228@edtnps84...>­ Congratulations Harry. I thought for sure you would purchase a brand new> car since you keep your cars a long time.> You are taking a risk buying a car with the 3800 Series II. My 01 impala> with the Series II had the leaking at only 20K miles and they did nothing> but replace the cooler gasket (that's what it said on the invoice) and
later> installed the walnut shells as a sealant with the recall. You would have> been a lot safer with the Series II engines that have the aluminum intake> manifold.> You never know you might get lucky and the issues will be resolved when> under warranty.> Vince>
"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.ne­t> wrote in message> news:35-42780126-56­1@storefull-3113.bay­.webtv.net...> > Well Ladies the day is finally here. It wasn't as painful as I thought> > it be but I broke down and purchased my sixth car Monday afternoon.> > Picked it up Tuesday morning.> >
2005 Buick Park Avenue with 13,650 miles on it. You may wonder why it> > has 13,650 miles on it. Well its a rental car buy back from Alamo in> > Boca Raton, Florida.> >
I know we've had Mass Debation's on the pros & cons of buying fleet /> > rental cars as we all know how drivers tend to drive something that> > doesn't belong to them.> >
Let me start out buy saying I didn't set out to buy a rental car - it> > just ended up to be one. Its a base Park Ave with no option packages add> > - but does have the radio upgrade to the AM- FM CD / Cassette.> >
Last week there was a very close threat that car # 6 was going to be a> > charcoal grey 03 Lincoln Town Car. If it wasn't for the fact it had the> > California emissions system I would of bought it. But I still had the> > General in mind - as I have been with General M since 1980.> >
A mechanic friend of mine works at the Buick Olds Caddy dealer I got the> > car at. Last year he gave me a salesmans card that might be able to give> > me a good deal.> > I still had the card here at home.> >
A Buick dealer in Villa Park IL had the same identical Park only it had> > 18,050 miles on it and had also been rear ended.> > The repairs were noticeable.> >
The I stopped at my friends work place two Sundays ago. When I saw it I> > thought oh chit not that f' in Bronzemist again. Reading the window> > sticker for 05 the came out with Cashmere Metallic.> > I looked at it, looked inside and noticed no Driver Info Center, no> > memory seat, buttons, no heated seat buttons and no OnStar Mirror. Uh Oh> > ! No options, must be a rental. Look further down the sticker and see> > the miles - 13, 644, yep, rental.> >
The RR quarter has four tiny scratches, two might rub out with compound,> > the rear bumper cover has the classic drag over scratches from suit> > cases being unloaded.> > Doors, fenders, hood, roof were perfect.> > Interior was spotless, no stains, tears or wear marks / creases in the> > leather.> >
This car was parked on a raised concrete platform along with other> > vehicles and backed up to the edge. I was able to almost stand under the> > back end of the car. No rust underneath, no damage from bottoming out,> > no evidence of it being rear ended, no color fading from salt, the wheel> > well liners were still bright black. This can't be a Chicago car.> >
Monday morning my buddy at the Chevy dealer run the Vin number.> >
Alamo Rental - Boca Raton, FLa.> > Built in June 2004> >
The only service record shown was replacement of the trunk latch> > striker. Maybe it got bent, possible a suit case strap hooked it &> > somebody pulled like hell on it?> >
For a rental car this one was the best looking one I've seen with> > virtually no damage, just cosmetic stuff. Even the matts are clean.> > This type of car usually is rented by older people, Parks are usually> > $99 a day cars and 20 year olds and young parents with kids want a> > cheaper sedan to rent.> >
I went to the dealer with this information, saw my mechanic friend first> > - then he tells me the dude won't get in till 1pm, Arghhhhh. I go do> > lunch, go home and come back about 2 pm.> >
I tell him about how my buddy works here and he said you might be able> > to work out a better deal for me. Kind of like the Insiders deal> > Seinfelt got from Puddy at the Saab dealer.> >
Salesman let me drive the car alone, took it for about a 20 mile ride.> > Rode great, handled well, no wind noises, no troubles. Everything seemed> > to be functioning as it should. I forgot to bring a CD & tape to try,> > but oh well. Had the car up to 90 mph.> >
I pulled back the trunk trim looking for pull out marks on the inside of> > the quarter panels - there were none. No flooding evidence - though I> > wonder how the car did in the 4 hurricanes in FLA last summer. Of course> > the car might of been in Ohio at the time.> >
When I got back my buddy hoisted it up and we gave the bottom end a> > good looking over. Again - no undercarriage damage, there weren't even> > any jacking marks on the jack points. No leaks, Wow an oil filter free> > and clear of the frame rail - whatta yah know ! No more mess changing> > oil.> >
I wasn't to thrilled with the absence of the grease fittings on the ties> > rods and ball joints. My Mechanic leaned over & whispered its a good> > car. The 3800 V6 has all kinds of room around it to work on.> >
I mentioned the Villa Park twin to the salesman and told him it was> > $24,999 with 18,000 miles on it. His reply was they could knock some off> > of this one.> >
The window sticker said $27,999 I was also told it was advertised (> > website ? ) for $29,999 I didn't see it advertised in the paper, but> > was shown a print out from their website with a picture of the car &> > options. When we got to his desk he come to me with a figure of $25,500,> > plus tax, title, license etc. SOLD !> >
So I bought the car, rather a pleasant experience, I told the sales man> > no extended warranty, Me or Phillip are the extended warranty, I also> > mentioned my Big Al discount on parts at Chevy dealer and the salesman> > replied, " You can't beat that".> >
The GM Certified Warranty extends it to JUne 2007 or 39,010 miles> > whichever comes first.> >
No telling how long I'll own it. Might be 3, 4, 5 years. Might be 14> > years. I might go ga - ga over the 07 Impala SS, or the 07 425 horsepwer> > hemi Charger, who knows.> >
The salesman asked if I was trading in a vehicle-___________­__________Oh> > let me tell you about that " vehicle " I currently drive. He sat there> > quietly , smiling, listening in amazement at the monumental> > accomplishments of the 300,000 mile Bonneville.> >
At this time I plan on keeping the Bonneville for awhile, just in case> > the Park decides it rather be parked than driveable.> >
Alot depends on whether I get tired of it hanging around. It might have> > to be jockeyed for position on the driveway, the garage, the street. All> > I know is its gonna be hard to part with when that time comes.> >
The new car is a base Park Avenue with cashmere metallic ( gold looking> > ) exterior with a cashmere leather interior,> > Power front seats, Elec Climate Control, AM FM CD Cass, power everything> > really, 19.0 cubic foot trunk. Two remotes, two keys, leather steering> > wheel with AC/ Radio controls built in. 16 inch Aluminum wheels.> >
CLEAN DEX COOL - so far!> > Hello Intake gaskets, how are we today?> >
$120 for the Service Manual - Currently studing the Owners Manual, which> > I was given a new one to replace the missing one.> >
One click of the parking brake does NOT turn off the DRL's !!> >
To J C REEVES - Help me man ! How do I disable the DRL's ? , the> > automatic headlights ?.> >
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH­AHAHA.> >
I'm not touching nothing. LOL.> >
Wish me luck.> >
Harryface> > 2005 Buick Park Avenue 13,672 miles> > 1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE> > 303,030 miles> >


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Harry Face 4 May 2005 06:23:49 permanent link ]
 $35,555 car and theres no under hood light !

What will I discover tomorrow?

Harryface
2005 Buick Park Avenue 13,672 miles
1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE
303,030 miles









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Silver Surfer 4 May 2005 07:27:37 permanent link ]
 On a car costing that much money GM figures that the machine is of such good
quality the buyer won't ever need to open the hood anyway, or else will be
paying someone else to do it if necessary.

"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.ne­t> wrote in message
news:8300-42783235-­182@storefull-3117.b­ay.webtv.net...> $35,555 car and theres no under hood light !>
What will I discover tomorrow?>
Harryface> 2005 Buick Park Avenue 13,672 miles> 1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE> 303,030 miles>


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Joe 4 May 2005 07:29:59 permanent link ]
 Good luck! If you drive it 300,000 miles, those scratches probably won't
make much difference in the trade-in..... Funny thing is, it's almost the
same car as your bonneville was.

"Shep" <djsljsrn@capital.n­et> wrote in message
news:427805dc$1_2@1­27.0.0.1...> Cool, Hary, nice car, I've driven a few of these in my repair shop, mostly > 2001-2003's. Good luck!> "Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.ne­t> wrote in message > news:35-42780126-56­1@storefull-3113.bay­.webtv.net...>> Well Ladies the day is finally here. It wasn't as painful as I thought>> it be but I broke down and purchased my sixth car Monday afternoon.>> Picked it up Tuesday morning.>>
2005 Buick Park Avenue with 13,650 miles on it. You may wonder why it>> has 13,650 miles on it. Well its a rental car buy back from Alamo in>> Boca Raton, Florida.>>
I know we've had Mass Debation's on the pros & cons of buying fleet />> rental cars as we all know how drivers tend to drive something that>> doesn't belong to them.>>
Let me start out buy saying I didn't set out to buy a rental car - it>> just ended up to be one. Its a base Park Ave with no option packages add>> - but does have the radio upgrade to the AM- FM CD / Cassette.>>
Last week there was a very close threat that car # 6 was going to be a>> charcoal grey 03 Lincoln Town Car. If it wasn't for the fact it had the>> California emissions system I would of bought it. But I still had the>> General in mind - as I have been with General M since 1980.>>
A mechanic friend of mine works at the Buick Olds Caddy dealer I got the>> car at. Last year he gave me a salesmans card that might be able to give>> me a good deal.>> I still had the card here at home.>>
A Buick dealer in Villa Park IL had the same identical Park only it had>> 18,050 miles on it and had also been rear ended.>> The repairs were noticeable.>>
The I stopped at my friends work place two Sundays ago. When I saw it I>> thought oh chit not that f' in Bronzemist again. Reading the window>> sticker for 05 the came out with Cashmere Metallic.>> I looked at it, looked inside and noticed no Driver Info Center, no>> memory seat, buttons, no heated seat buttons and no OnStar Mirror. Uh Oh>> ! No options, must be a rental. Look further down the sticker and see>> the miles - 13, 644, yep, rental.>>
The RR quarter has four tiny scratches, two might rub out with compound,>> the rear bumper cover has the classic drag over scratches from suit>> cases being unloaded.>> Doors, fenders, hood, roof were perfect.>> Interior was spotless, no stains, tears or wear marks / creases in the>> leather.>>
This car was parked on a raised concrete platform along with other>> vehicles and backed up to the edge. I was able to almost stand under the>> back end of the car. No rust underneath, no damage from bottoming out,>> no evidence of it being rear ended, no color fading from salt, the wheel>> well liners were still bright black. This can't be a Chicago car.>>
Monday morning my buddy at the Chevy dealer run the Vin number.>>
Alamo Rental - Boca Raton, FLa.>> Built in June 2004>>
The only service record shown was replacement of the trunk latch>> striker. Maybe it got bent, possible a suit case strap hooked it &>> somebody pulled like hell on it?>>
For a rental car this one was the best looking one I've seen with>> virtually no damage, just cosmetic stuff. Even the matts are clean.>> This type of car usually is rented by older people, Parks are usually>> $99 a day cars and 20 year olds and young parents with kids want a>> cheaper sedan to rent.>>
I went to the dealer with this information, saw my mechanic friend first>> - then he tells me the dude won't get in till 1pm, Arghhhhh. I go do>> lunch, go home and come back about 2 pm.>>
I tell him about how my buddy works here and he said you might be able>> to work out a better deal for me. Kind of like the Insiders deal>> Seinfelt got from Puddy at the Saab dealer.>>
Salesman let me drive the car alone, took it for about a 20 mile ride.>> Rode great, handled well, no wind noises, no troubles. Everything seemed>> to be functioning as it should. I forgot to bring a CD & tape to try,>> but oh well. Had the car up to 90 mph.>>
I pulled back the trunk trim looking for pull out marks on the inside of>> the quarter panels - there were none. No flooding evidence - though I>> wonder how the car did in the 4 hurricanes in FLA last summer. Of course>> the car might of been in Ohio at the time.>>
When I got back my buddy hoisted it up and we gave the bottom end a>> good looking over. Again - no undercarriage damage, there weren't even>> any jacking marks on the jack points. No leaks, Wow an oil filter free>> and clear of the frame rail - whatta yah know ! No more mess changing>> oil.>>
I wasn't to thrilled with the absence of the grease fittings on the ties>> rods and ball joints. My Mechanic leaned over & whispered its a good>> car. The 3800 V6 has all kinds of room around it to work on.>>
I mentioned the Villa Park twin to the salesman and told him it was>> $24,999 with 18,000 miles on it. His reply was they could knock some off>> of this one.>>
The window sticker said $27,999 I was also told it was advertised (>> website ? ) for $29,999 I didn't see it advertised in the paper, but>> was shown a print out from their website with a picture of the car &>> options. When we got to his desk he come to me with a figure of $25,500,>> plus tax, title, license etc. SOLD !>>
So I bought the car, rather a pleasant experience, I told the sales man>> no extended warranty, Me or Phillip are the extended warranty, I also>> mentioned my Big Al discount on parts at Chevy dealer and the salesman>> replied, " You can't beat that".>>
The GM Certified Warranty extends it to JUne 2007 or 39,010 miles>> whichever comes first.>>
No telling how long I'll own it. Might be 3, 4, 5 years. Might be 14>> years. I might go ga - ga over the 07 Impala SS, or the 07 425 horsepwer>> hemi Charger, who knows.>>
The salesman asked if I was trading in a vehicle-___________­__________Oh>> let me tell you about that " vehicle " I currently drive. He sat there>> quietly , smiling, listening in amazement at the monumental>> accomplishments of the 300,000 mile Bonneville.>>
At this time I plan on keeping the Bonneville for awhile, just in case>> the Park decides it rather be parked than driveable.>>
Alot depends on whether I get tired of it hanging around. It might have>> to be jockeyed for position on the driveway, the garage, the street. All>> I know is its gonna be hard to part with when that time comes.>>
The new car is a base Park Avenue with cashmere metallic ( gold looking>> ) exterior with a cashmere leather interior,>> Power front seats, Elec Climate Control, AM FM CD Cass, power everything>> really, 19.0 cubic foot trunk. Two remotes, two keys, leather steering>> wheel with AC/ Radio controls built in. 16 inch Aluminum wheels.>>
CLEAN DEX COOL - so far!>> Hello Intake gaskets, how are we today?>>
$120 for the Service Manual - Currently studing the Owners Manual, which>> I was given a new one to replace the missing one.>>
One click of the parking brake does NOT turn off the DRL's !!>>
To J C REEVES - Help me man ! How do I disable the DRL's ? , the>> automatic headlights ?.>>
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH­AHAHA.>>
I'm not touching nothing. LOL.>>
Wish me luck.>>
Harryface>> 2005 Buick Park Avenue 13,672 miles>> 1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE>> 303,030 miles>>
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Jay S 4 May 2005 07:58:54 permanent link ]
 What??
HF has a car with less than 300,000 miles on it?
Now you have to start all over again. You're a long way from topping the
mileage of the old Bonnie.

Have fun

Jay S

"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.ne­t> wrote in message
news:35-42780126-56­1@storefull-3113.bay­.webtv.net...> Well Ladies the day is finally here. It wasn't as painful as I thought> it be but I broke down and purchased my sixth car Monday afternoon.> Picked it up Tuesday morning.>
2005 Buick Park Avenue with 13,650 miles on it. You may wonder why it> has 13,650 miles on it. Well its a rental car buy back from Alamo in> Boca Raton, Florida.>
I know we've had Mass Debation's on the pros & cons of buying fleet /> rental cars as we all know how drivers tend to drive something that> doesn't belong to them.>
Let me start out buy saying I didn't set out to buy a rental car - it> just ended up to be one. Its a base Park Ave with no option packages add> - but does have the radio upgrade to the AM- FM CD / Cassette.>
Last week there was a very close threat that car # 6 was going to be a> charcoal grey 03 Lincoln Town Car. If it wasn't for the fact it had the> California emissions system I would of bought it. But I still had the> General in mind - as I have been with General M since 1980.>
A mechanic friend of mine works at the Buick Olds Caddy dealer I got the> car at. Last year he gave me a salesmans card that might be able to give> me a good deal.> I still had the card here at home.>
A Buick dealer in Villa Park IL had the same identical Park only it had> 18,050 miles on it and had also been rear ended.> The repairs were noticeable.>
The I stopped at my friends work place two Sundays ago. When I saw it I> thought oh chit not that f' in Bronzemist again. Reading the window> sticker for 05 the came out with Cashmere Metallic.> I looked at it, looked inside and noticed no Driver Info Center, no> memory seat, buttons, no heated seat buttons and no OnStar Mirror. Uh Oh> ! No options, must be a rental. Look further down the sticker and see> the miles - 13, 644, yep, rental.>
The RR quarter has four tiny scratches, two might rub out with compound,> the rear bumper cover has the classic drag over scratches from suit> cases being unloaded.> Doors, fenders, hood, roof were perfect.> Interior was spotless, no stains, tears or wear marks / creases in the> leather.>
This car was parked on a raised concrete platform along with other> vehicles and backed up to the edge. I was able to almost stand under the> back end of the car. No rust underneath, no damage from bottoming out,> no evidence of it being rear ended, no color fading from salt, the wheel> well liners were still bright black. This can't be a Chicago car.>
Monday morning my buddy at the Chevy dealer run the Vin number.>
Alamo Rental - Boca Raton, FLa.> Built in June 2004>
The only service record shown was replacement of the trunk latch> striker. Maybe it got bent, possible a suit case strap hooked it &> somebody pulled like hell on it?>
For a rental car this one was the best looking one I've seen with> virtually no damage, just cosmetic stuff. Even the matts are clean.> This type of car usually is rented by older people, Parks are usually> $99 a day cars and 20 year olds and young parents with kids want a> cheaper sedan to rent.>
I went to the dealer with this information, saw my mechanic friend first> - then he tells me the dude won't get in till 1pm, Arghhhhh. I go do> lunch, go home and come back about 2 pm.>
I tell him about how my buddy works here and he said you might be able> to work out a better deal for me. Kind of like the Insiders deal> Seinfelt got from Puddy at the Saab dealer.>
Salesman let me drive the car alone, took it for about a 20 mile ride.> Rode great, handled well, no wind noises, no troubles. Everything seemed> to be functioning as it should. I forgot to bring a CD & tape to try,> but oh well. Had the car up to 90 mph.>
I pulled back the trunk trim looking for pull out marks on the inside of> the quarter panels - there were none. No flooding evidence - though I> wonder how the car did in the 4 hurricanes in FLA last summer. Of course> the car might of been in Ohio at the time.>
When I got back my buddy hoisted it up and we gave the bottom end a> good looking over. Again - no undercarriage damage, there weren't even> any jacking marks on the jack points. No leaks, Wow an oil filter free> and clear of the frame rail - whatta yah know ! No more mess changing> oil.>
I wasn't to thrilled with the absence of the grease fittings on the ties> rods and ball joints. My Mechanic leaned over & whispered its a good> car. The 3800 V6 has all kinds of room around it to work on.>
I mentioned the Villa Park twin to the salesman and told him it was> $24,999 with 18,000 miles on it. His reply was they could knock some off> of this one.>
The window sticker said $27,999 I was also told it was advertised (> website ? ) for $29,999 I didn't see it advertised in the paper, but> was shown a print out from their website with a picture of the car &> options. When we got to his desk he come to me with a figure of $25,500,> plus tax, title, license etc. SOLD !>
So I bought the car, rather a pleasant experience, I told the sales man> no extended warranty, Me or Phillip are the extended warranty, I also> mentioned my Big Al discount on parts at Chevy dealer and the salesman> replied, " You can't beat that".>
The GM Certified Warranty extends it to JUne 2007 or 39,010 miles> whichever comes first.>
No telling how long I'll own it. Might be 3, 4, 5 years. Might be 14> years. I might go ga - ga over the 07 Impala SS, or the 07 425 horsepwer> hemi Charger, who knows.>
The salesman asked if I was trading in a vehicle-___________­__________Oh> let me tell you about that " vehicle " I currently drive. He sat there> quietly , smiling, listening in amazement at the monumental> accomplishments of the 300,000 mile Bonneville.>
At this time I plan on keeping the Bonneville for awhile, just in case> the Park decides it rather be parked than driveable.>
Alot depends on whether I get tired of it hanging around. It might have> to be jockeyed for position on the driveway, the garage, the street. All> I know is its gonna be hard to part with when that time comes.>
The new car is a base Park Avenue with cashmere metallic ( gold looking> ) exterior with a cashmere leather interior,> Power front seats, Elec Climate Control, AM FM CD Cass, power everything> really, 19.0 cubic foot trunk. Two remotes, two keys, leather steering> wheel with AC/ Radio controls built in. 16 inch Aluminum wheels.>
CLEAN DEX COOL - so far!> Hello Intake gaskets, how are we today?>
$120 for the Service Manual - Currently studing the Owners Manual, which> I was given a new one to replace the missing one.>
One click of the parking brake does NOT turn off the DRL's !!>
To J C REEVES - Help me man ! How do I disable the DRL's ? , the> automatic headlights ?.>
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH­AHAHA.>
I'm not touching nothing. LOL.>
Wish me luck.>
Harryface> 2005 Buick Park Avenue 13,672 miles> 1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE> 303,030 miles>


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Rutger6559 4 May 2005 08:44:10 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 3 May 2005 17:54:30 -0500, harryface@webtv.net­ (Harry Face)
wrote:
Well Ladies the day is finally here. It wasn't as painful as I thought>it be but I broke down and purchased my sixth car Monday afternoon.>Picked it up Tuesday morning.>
2005 Buick Park Avenue with 13,650 miles on it. You may wonder why it>has 13,650 miles on it. Well its a rental car buy back from Alamo in>Boca Raton, Florida.>

<snip>

Congrats HF!!!

I send you my best wishes that you shall see 300k miles out of this PA
just like your current Bonne!

BTW, please let us know what the Bonne's fate eventually is! I hope
it goes to a good home! :)­

Again, best wishes!

Rick


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LeBuick 4 May 2005 09:29:11 permanent link ]
 "Harry Face" wrote:>...The new car is a base Park Avenue with cashmere metallic ( gold>looking>) exterior with a cashmere leather interior,>Power front seats, Elec Climate Control, AM FM CD Cass, power>everything>re­ally, 19.0 cubic foot trunk. Two remotes, two keys, leather
steering>wheel with AC/ Radio controls built in. 16 inch Aluminum wheels.

Congrats HF, I may be mistaken but usually the leather wrapped
steering means you have the grand touring suspension. Look for a rear
sway bar? This was true for my 02 PA.

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Shep wrote:> Cool, Hary, nice car, I've driven a few of these in my repair shop, mostly > 2001-2003's. Good luck!> "Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.ne­t> wrote in message > news:35-42780126-56­1@storefull-3113.bay­.webtv.net...>
Well Ladies the day is finally here. It wasn't as painful as I thought>>it be but I broke down and purchased my sixth car Monday afternoon.>>Picked it up Tuesday morning.

Congrats on one of the few decent GM products. These
are every bit as reliable as a Camry V6, as far as
the engine and drivetrain are concerned. The rest,
well, it's pretty good too, since the options are
what always break first.

The only thing I really recommend is when it comes
time to get the radiator replaced at about 4-6 years,
replace it with a good three-row all metal oversized
one. This is a huge trick to getting the engine to
last 250K or more if you tend to carry peolpe or
things around.

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Joseph Oberlander 4 May 2005 11:14:42 permanent link ]
 

vince wrote:
Congratulations Harry. I thought for sure you would purchase a brand new> car since you keep your cars a long time.> You are taking a risk buying a car with the 3800 Series II.

He could always replace the intake manifold, you know.

The car does have the new OBD III on it, which is finally
halfway competant at figuring out problems. The DRLS
can be defeated I think by setting the twilight sentinal
and essentially making the lights go on all the time.
(ie - swap the half-power highbeam DRLs for always on lowbeams)

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Harry Face 4 May 2005 19:01:58 permanent link ]
 Joe O

I would hope the original radiator would last longer than the 4-6 years.

The radiator in the Bonneville was replaced in 2003 ( 12 yrs old ) when
the side tanks developed cracks up at the top end.

Harryface
2005 Buick Park Avenue 13,672 miles
1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE
303,030 miles









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Johnny Action 4 May 2005 20:28:16 permanent link ]
 
"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.ne­t> wrote in message
news:35-42780126-56­1@storefull-3113.bay­.webtv.net...> Well Ladies the day is finally here. It wasn't as painful as I thought> it be but I broke down and purchased my sixth car Monday afternoon.> Picked it up Tuesday morning.>
2005 Buick Park Avenue with 13,650 miles on it. You may wonder why it> has 13,650 miles on it. Well its a rental car buy back from Alamo in> Boca Raton, Florida.>
I know we've had Mass Debation's on the pros & cons of buying fleet /> rental cars as we all know how drivers tend to drive something that> doesn't belong to them.>
Let me start out buy saying I didn't set out to buy a rental car - it> just ended up to be one. Its a base Park Ave with no option packages add> - but does have the radio upgrade to the AM- FM CD / Cassette.>
Last week there was a very close threat that car # 6 was going to be a> charcoal grey 03 Lincoln Town Car. If it wasn't for the fact it had the> California emissions system I would of bought it. But I still had the> General in mind - as I have been with General M since 1980.>
A mechanic friend of mine works at the Buick Olds Caddy dealer I got the> car at. Last year he gave me a salesmans card that might be able to give> me a good deal.> I still had the card here at home.>
A Buick dealer in Villa Park IL had the same identical Park only it had> 18,050 miles on it and had also been rear ended.> The repairs were noticeable.>
The I stopped at my friends work place two Sundays ago. When I saw it I> thought oh chit not that f' in Bronzemist again. Reading the window> sticker for 05 the came out with Cashmere Metallic.> I looked at it, looked inside and noticed no Driver Info Center, no> memory seat, buttons, no heated seat buttons and no OnStar Mirror. Uh Oh> ! No options, must be a rental. Look further down the sticker and see> the miles - 13, 644, yep, rental.>
The RR quarter has four tiny scratches, two might rub out with compound,> the rear bumper cover has the classic drag over scratches from suit> cases being unloaded.> Doors, fenders, hood, roof were perfect.> Interior was spotless, no stains, tears or wear marks / creases in the> leather.>
This car was parked on a raised concrete platform along with other> vehicles and backed up to the edge. I was able to almost stand under the> back end of the car. No rust underneath, no damage from bottoming out,> no evidence of it being rear ended, no color fading from salt, the wheel> well liners were still bright black. This can't be a Chicago car.>
Monday morning my buddy at the Chevy dealer run the Vin number.>
Alamo Rental - Boca Raton, FLa.> Built in June 2004>
The only service record shown was replacement of the trunk latch> striker. Maybe it got bent, possible a suit case strap hooked it &> somebody pulled like hell on it?>
For a rental car this one was the best looking one I've seen with> virtually no damage, just cosmetic stuff. Even the matts are clean.> This type of car usually is rented by older people, Parks are usually> $99 a day cars and 20 year olds and young parents with kids want a> cheaper sedan to rent.>
I went to the dealer with this information, saw my mechanic friend first> - then he tells me the dude won't get in till 1pm, Arghhhhh. I go do> lunch, go home and come back about 2 pm.>
I tell him about how my buddy works here and he said you might be able> to work out a better deal for me. Kind of like the Insiders deal> Seinfelt got from Puddy at the Saab dealer.>
Salesman let me drive the car alone, took it for about a 20 mile ride.> Rode great, handled well, no wind noises, no troubles. Everything seemed> to be functioning as it should. I forgot to bring a CD & tape to try,> but oh well. Had the car up to 90 mph.>
I pulled back the trunk trim looking for pull out marks on the inside of> the quarter panels - there were none. No flooding evidence - though I> wonder how the car did in the 4 hurricanes in FLA last summer. Of course> the car might of been in Ohio at the time.>
When I got back my buddy hoisted it up and we gave the bottom end a> good looking over. Again - no undercarriage damage, there weren't even> any jacking marks on the jack points. No leaks, Wow an oil filter free> and clear of the frame rail - whatta yah know ! No more mess changing> oil.>
I wasn't to thrilled with the absence of the grease fittings on the ties> rods and ball joints. My Mechanic leaned over & whispered its a good> car. The 3800 V6 has all kinds of room around it to work on.>
I mentioned the Villa Park twin to the salesman and told him it was> $24,999 with 18,000 miles on it. His reply was they could knock some off> of this one.>
The window sticker said $27,999 I was also told it was advertised (> website ? ) for $29,999 I didn't see it advertised in the paper, but> was shown a print out from their website with a picture of the car &> options. When we got to his desk he come to me with a figure of $25,500,> plus tax, title, license etc. SOLD !>
So I bought the car, rather a pleasant experience, I told the sales man> no extended warranty, Me or Phillip are the extended warranty, I also> mentioned my Big Al discount on parts at Chevy dealer and the salesman> replied, " You can't beat that".>
The GM Certified Warranty extends it to JUne 2007 or 39,010 miles> whichever comes first.>
No telling how long I'll own it. Might be 3, 4, 5 years. Might be 14> years. I might go ga - ga over the 07 Impala SS, or the 07 425 horsepwer> hemi Charger, who knows.>
The salesman asked if I was trading in a vehicle-___________­__________Oh> let me tell you about that " vehicle " I currently drive. He sat there> quietly , smiling, listening in amazement at the monumental> accomplishments of the 300,000 mile Bonneville.>
At this time I plan on keeping the Bonneville for awhile, just in case> the Park decides it rather be parked than driveable.>
Alot depends on whether I get tired of it hanging around. It might have> to be jockeyed for position on the driveway, the garage, the street. All> I know is its gonna be hard to part with when that time comes.>
The new car is a base Park Avenue with cashmere metallic ( gold looking> ) exterior with a cashmere leather interior,> Power front seats, Elec Climate Control, AM FM CD Cass, power everything> really, 19.0 cubic foot trunk. Two remotes, two keys, leather steering> wheel with AC/ Radio controls built in. 16 inch Aluminum wheels.>
CLEAN DEX COOL - so far!> Hello Intake gaskets, how are we today?>
$120 for the Service Manual - Currently studing the Owners Manual, which> I was given a new one to replace the missing one.>
One click of the parking brake does NOT turn off the DRL's !!>
To J C REEVES - Help me man ! How do I disable the DRL's ? , the> automatic headlights ?.>
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH­AHAHA.>
I'm not touching nothing. LOL.>
Wish me luck.>
Harryface> 2005 Buick Park Avenue 13,672 miles> 1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE> 303,030 miles>
Keep a look out for Intake gasket leaks in a few years though.>


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James C. Reeves 5 May 2005 02:43:49 permanent link ]
 
"Joseph Oberlander" <josephoberlander@e­arthlink.net> wrote in message
news:OA_de.6554$BE3­.271@newsread2.news.­pas.earthlink.net...­>
Shep wrote:>> Cool, Hary, nice car, I've driven a few of these in my repair shop, >> mostly 2001-2003's. Good luck!>> "Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.ne­t> wrote in message >> news:35-42780126-56­1@storefull-3113.bay­.webtv.net...>>
Well Ladies the day is finally here. It wasn't as painful as I thought>>>it be but I broke down and purchased my sixth car Monday afternoon.>>>Picked­ it up Tuesday morning.>
Congrats on one of the few decent GM products. These> are every bit as reliable as a Camry V6, as far as> the engine and drivetrain are concerned. The rest,> well, it's pretty good too, since the options are> what always break first.>
The only thing I really recommend is when it comes> time to get the radiator replaced at about 4-6 years,> replace it with a good three-row all metal oversized> one. This is a huge trick to getting the engine to> last 250K or more if you tend to carry peolpe or> things around.>

Replace the radiator at 4-6 years? I've owned cars as long as 15 years and
keep most at least 10 and haven't replaced a radiator yet. What's up with
that?





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James C. Reeves 5 May 2005 02:46:59 permanent link ]
 
"Joseph Oberlander" <josephoberlander@e­arthlink.net> wrote in message
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vince wrote:>
Congratulations Harry. I thought for sure you would purchase a brand new>> car since you keep your cars a long time.>> You are taking a risk buying a car with the 3800 Series II.>
He could always replace the intake manifold, you know.>
The car does have the new OBD III on it, which is finally> halfway competant at figuring out problems. The DRLS> can be defeated I think by setting the twilight sentinal> and essentially making the lights go on all the time.> (ie - swap the half-power highbeam DRLs for always on lowbeams)>

Yea, that's what my neighbor did with his LeSabre....lights on all the time.
He and his wife say that creates a problem with "uncomfortable" heat from
the indicator lights in the steering wheel on long trips though.


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Dennis Smith 5 May 2005 03:46:55 permanent link ]
 In article <97SdnXipBcGkzeTfRV­n-pg@comcast.com>, jcnospam@nospam.com­ says...>>
Replace the radiator at 4-6 years? I've owned cars as long as 15 years and >keep most at least 10 and haven't replaced a radiator yet. What's up with >that?

The factory plastic O-ringed aluminum core radiator in my '84 T/A is doing
just fine after 21 years. I even went 5 or 6 years on the coolant. Oops!

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-1971 Trans Am - 455 H.O. - M21 4speed - Cameo white/blue stripe-
-1973 Trans Am - 455 - TH400 auto - Buccaneer red-
-1984 Trans Am - 5.0 L - TH700R4 auto - Royal blue/silver aero-
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Dennis Smith 5 May 2005 09:20:11 permanent link ]
 In article <35-42780126-561@st­orefull-3113.bay.web­tv.net>,
harryface@webtv.net­ says...>
At this time I plan on keeping the Bonneville for awhile, just in case>the Park decides it rather be parked than driveable.


I'll trade you a White Castle burger for the Bonneville.


LOLOLOLOL!


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-1984 Trans Am - 5.0 L - TH700R4 auto - Royal blue/silver aero-
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Joseph Oberlander 5 May 2005 13:47:25 permanent link ]
 James C. Reeves wrote:> "Joseph Oberlander" <josephoberlander@e­arthlink.net> wrote in message > news:OA_de.6554$BE3­.271@newsread2.news.­pas.earthlink.net...­
Replace the radiator at 4-6 years? I've owned cars as long as 15 years and > keep most at least 10 and haven't replaced a radiator yet. What's up with > that?

IME, most radiators that you find in cars today have plastic
ends on them and are undersized. It's not uncommon for them
to only last a handful of years depending upon where you live.
(though I suspect that I live in a desert has a bit to do with it :)­ )

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No body 6 May 2005 00:23:46 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 3 May 2005 17:54:30 -0500, harryface@webtv.net­ (Harry Face)
wrote:
<snip>>
2005 Buick Park Avenue with 13,650 miles on it. You may wonder why it>has 13,650 miles on it. Well its a rental car buy back from Alamo in>Boca Raton, Florida.><snip>>
CLEAN DEX COOL - so far!>Hello Intake gaskets, how are we today?>
$120 for the Service Manual - Currently studing the Owners Manual, which>I was given a new one to replace the missing one.>
One click of the parking brake does NOT turn off the DRL's !!>
To J C REEVES - Help me man ! How do I disable the DRL's ? , the>automatic headlights ?.>
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA­HAHAHA.>
I'm not touching nothing. LOL.>
Wish me luck.>
Harryface >2005 Buick Park Avenue 13,672 miles>1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE> 303,030 miles


rental doesn't necessarily = abuse. Esp that model. Hardly the type
of car that would be rented by kids.

As for DRL... Ignore them, they'll be fine.

I bought an old ex-rental Pontiac Firefly beater years ago Paid $390
drove it for 20K problem free (It already had 290KMS on it) sold it
for $450.

Dexacool? change it next year, might well be problem free, my last
3.8 was fine except for a small broken plastic elbow.

Congrats and good luck
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Jgalianojr 9 May 2005 06:05:27 permanent link ]
 Make sure you do a transmission flush to it, and let me add I really don't
care how the fluid looks at this point. ask your friend how cars are
prepared for the front line specially used cars.?????? and remember intake
gaskets, and that beautifull recall that came out that you have to add 3
pills to the coolant system to avoid any leaks????? every thing else gets
that treatment, Heater core intake and so on including water pump. good luck
on not getting the extended warrantie.
"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.ne­t> wrote in message
news:35-42780126-56­1@storefull-3113.bay­.webtv.net...> Well Ladies the day is finally here. It wasn't as painful as I thought> it be but I broke down and purchased my sixth car Monday afternoon.> Picked it up Tuesday morning.>
2005 Buick Park Avenue with 13,650 miles on it. You may wonder why it> has 13,650 miles on it. Well its a rental car buy back from Alamo in> Boca Raton, Florida.>
I know we've had Mass Debation's on the pros & cons of buying fleet /> rental cars as we all know how drivers tend to drive something that> doesn't belong to them.>
Let me start out buy saying I didn't set out to buy a rental car - it> just ended up to be one. Its a base Park Ave with no option packages add> - but does have the radio upgrade to the AM- FM CD / Cassette.>
Last week there was a very close threat that car # 6 was going to be a> charcoal grey 03 Lincoln Town Car. If it wasn't for the fact it had the> California emissions system I would of bought it. But I still had the> General in mind - as I have been with General M since 1980.>
A mechanic friend of mine works at the Buick Olds Caddy dealer I got the> car at. Last year he gave me a salesmans card that might be able to give> me a good deal.> I still had the card here at home.>
A Buick dealer in Villa Park IL had the same identical Park only it had> 18,050 miles on it and had also been rear ended.> The repairs were noticeable.>
The I stopped at my friends work place two Sundays ago. When I saw it I> thought oh chit not that f' in Bronzemist again. Reading the window> sticker for 05 the came out with Cashmere Metallic.> I looked at it, looked inside and noticed no Driver Info Center, no> memory seat, buttons, no heated seat buttons and no OnStar Mirror. Uh Oh> ! No options, must be a rental. Look further down the sticker and see> the miles - 13, 644, yep, rental.>
The RR quarter has four tiny scratches, two might rub out with compound,> the rear bumper cover has the classic drag over scratches from suit> cases being unloaded.> Doors, fenders, hood, roof were perfect.> Interior was spotless, no stains, tears or wear marks / creases in the> leather.>
This car was parked on a raised concrete platform along with other> vehicles and backed up to the edge. I was able to almost stand under the> back end of the car. No rust underneath, no damage from bottoming out,> no evidence of it being rear ended, no color fading from salt, the wheel> well liners were still bright black. This can't be a Chicago car.>
Monday morning my buddy at the Chevy dealer run the Vin number.>
Alamo Rental - Boca Raton, FLa.> Built in June 2004>
The only service record shown was replacement of the trunk latch> striker. Maybe it got bent, possible a suit case strap hooked it &> somebody pulled like hell on it?>
For a rental car this one was the best looking one I've seen with> virtually no damage, just cosmetic stuff. Even the matts are clean.> This type of car usually is rented by older people, Parks are usually> $99 a day cars and 20 year olds and young parents with kids want a> cheaper sedan to rent.>
I went to the dealer with this information, saw my mechanic friend first> - then he tells me the dude won't get in till 1pm, Arghhhhh. I go do> lunch, go home and come back about 2 pm.>
I tell him about how my buddy works here and he said you might be able> to work out a better deal for me. Kind of like the Insiders deal> Seinfelt got from Puddy at the Saab dealer.>
Salesman let me drive the car alone, took it for about a 20 mile ride.> Rode great, handled well, no wind noises, no troubles. Everything seemed> to be functioning as it should. I forgot to bring a CD & tape to try,> but oh well. Had the car up to 90 mph.>
I pulled back the trunk trim looking for pull out marks on the inside of> the quarter panels - there were none. No flooding evidence - though I> wonder how the car did in the 4 hurricanes in FLA last summer. Of course> the car might of been in Ohio at the time.>
When I got back my buddy hoisted it up and we gave the bottom end a> good looking over. Again - no undercarriage damage, there weren't even> any jacking marks on the jack points. No leaks, Wow an oil filter free> and clear of the frame rail - whatta yah know ! No more mess changing> oil.>
I wasn't to thrilled with the absence of the grease fittings on the ties> rods and ball joints. My Mechanic leaned over & whispered its a good> car. The 3800 V6 has all kinds of room around it to work on.>
I mentioned the Villa Park twin to the salesman and told him it was> $24,999 with 18,000 miles on it. His reply was they could knock some off> of this one.>
The window sticker said $27,999 I was also told it was advertised (> website ? ) for $29,999 I didn't see it advertised in the paper, but> was shown a print out from their website with a picture of the car &> options. When we got to his desk he come to me with a figure of $25,500,> plus tax, title, license etc. SOLD !>
So I bought the car, rather a pleasant experience, I told the sales man> no extended warranty, Me or Phillip are the extended warranty, I also> mentioned my Big Al discount on parts at Chevy dealer and the salesman> replied, " You can't beat that".>
The GM Certified Warranty extends it to JUne 2007 or 39,010 miles> whichever comes first.>
No telling how long I'll own it. Might be 3, 4, 5 years. Might be 14> years. I might go ga - ga over the 07 Impala SS, or the 07 425 horsepwer> hemi Charger, who knows.>
The salesman asked if I was trading in a vehicle-___________­__________Oh> let me tell you about that " vehicle " I currently drive. He sat there> quietly , smiling, listening in amazement at the monumental> accomplishments of the 300,000 mile Bonneville.>
At this time I plan on keeping the Bonneville for awhile, just in case> the Park decides it rather be parked than driveable.>
Alot depends on whether I get tired of it hanging around. It might have> to be jockeyed for position on the driveway, the garage, the street. All> I know is its gonna be hard to part with when that time comes.>
The new car is a base Park Avenue with cashmere metallic ( gold looking> ) exterior with a cashmere leather interior,> Power front seats, Elec Climate Control, AM FM CD Cass, power everything> really, 19.0 cubic foot trunk. Two remotes, two keys, leather steering> wheel with AC/ Radio controls built in. 16 inch Aluminum wheels.>
CLEAN DEX COOL - so far!> Hello Intake gaskets, how are we today?>
$120 for the Service Manual - Currently studing the Owners Manual, which> I was given a new one to replace the missing one.>
One click of the parking brake does NOT turn off the DRL's !!>
To J C REEVES - Help me man ! How do I disable the DRL's ? , the> automatic headlights ?.>
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH­AHAHA.>
I'm not touching nothing. LOL.>
Wish me luck.>
Harryface> 2005 Buick Park Avenue 13,672 miles> 1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE> 303,030 miles>


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