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Intermittent hesitation when cold - 1995 Olds 88 3.8L

Bob 16 April 2005 01:16:57
 The service techs who work on my car are pulling their hair out over the
problem - a very intermittent hesitation when the car is first driven.

The car is a 1995 Olds 88 with the 3.8L engine with just over 75,000 miles
on it. A couple of months ago it developed an occasional hesitation while
first driven, or sometimes a rough idle before I back it out of the
driveway. Won't do it on a regular basis; the car might run fine for
several days, and then the problem occurs. Usually it only lasts for 10 -
15 seconds close to home, although it did act up once while stopped in
traffic about a mile from home - it felt like the engine was going to die,
but kept chugging. Not much happened when I stepped on the gas, but after
about 20 seconds the idle smoothed out and I could accelerate. Car went to
the garage after that incident, and the techs have encountered the problem,
but are still trying to figure out the cause. Oh and one time while the car
was misbehaving in the driveway, I popped the hood, in case I could see
anything. While the idle was going up and down, I did hear a loud
mechanical snap, and the idle smoothed right out.

Here's what has been checked, so far: no check engine light when the car
hesitates, and no trouble codes stored. They suspected a fuel pump problem,
however, they did get the car to fail with a pressure gauge hooked up, and
eliminated a fuel problem from the pump. Possible electrical ground
problem, but that didn't solve it either.

They did give the car a tune up; they said the wires looked a bit old,
although they were (supposedly) changed back in 2001 around 55,000 miles by
an Olds dealership that I stopped doing business with.

Anyone have any thoughts or ideas on this? I'd welcome suggestions on this,
since the techs have had the car for several weeks, and would love to get it
back to me. I understand intermittent problems are hard to track down; I've
had experience in the computer and electronics repair industry so I'm giving
them as much time as it takes to find the problem.

Thanks for any input.
Bob.




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Steve Mackie 16 April 2005 05:44:31 permanent link ]
 That's funny, I am currently having the same problem with my '95 Monte, but
it's a little less intermittent. I think it's the PCM or the fuel pump
wiring on my car.

Steve

"Bob" <bobk4000JUNK@JUNKy­ahooJUNK.JUNKcom> wrote in message
news:1160bq9sfqtqld­d@corp.supernews.com­...> The service techs who work on my car are pulling their hair out over the> problem - a very intermittent hesitation when the car is first driven.>
The car is a 1995 Olds 88 with the 3.8L engine with just over 75,000 miles> on it. A couple of months ago it developed an occasional hesitation while> first driven, or sometimes a rough idle before I back it out of the> driveway. Won't do it on a regular basis; the car might run fine for> several days, and then the problem occurs. Usually it only lasts for 10 -> 15 seconds close to home, although it did act up once while stopped in> traffic about a mile from home - it felt like the engine was going to die,> but kept chugging. Not much happened when I stepped on the gas, but after> about 20 seconds the idle smoothed out and I could accelerate. Car went
the garage after that incident, and the techs have encountered the
problem,> but are still trying to figure out the cause. Oh and one time while the
was misbehaving in the driveway, I popped the hood, in case I could see> anything. While the idle was going up and down, I did hear a loud> mechanical snap, and the idle smoothed right out.>
Here's what has been checked, so far: no check engine light when the car> hesitates, and no trouble codes stored. They suspected a fuel pump
problem,> however, they did get the car to fail with a pressure gauge hooked up, and> eliminated a fuel problem from the pump. Possible electrical ground> problem, but that didn't solve it either.>
They did give the car a tune up; they said the wires looked a bit old,> although they were (supposedly) changed back in 2001 around 55,000 miles
an Olds dealership that I stopped doing business with.>
Anyone have any thoughts or ideas on this? I'd welcome suggestions on
this,> since the techs have had the car for several weeks, and would love to get
back to me. I understand intermittent problems are hard to track down;
I've> had experience in the computer and electronics repair industry so I'm
giving> them as much time as it takes to find the problem.>
Thanks for any input.> Bob.>


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Wendy & John 16 April 2005 06:02:08 permanent link ]
 "Bob" wrote:

1995 Olds 88 3.8L Intermittent hesitation when cold.

....occasional hesitation while first driven......sometim­es rough idle
before backing out of driveway.......usua­lly only lasts for 10 - 15
seconds.....once started chugging while stopped in traffic.....after
about 20 seconds the idle smoothed out and I could accelerate...
once there was a loud mechanical snap, and the idle smoothed out.

Any thoughts or ideas?
___________________­____________________­__________________

We had similar symptoms with our 1992 Buick 5.7L. It was the Idle
Air Control valve intermittently sticking. We did not replace it - just
exercised it manually, cleaned off the pintle valve and the valve seat
in the throttle body and reinstalled it. No trouble since. HTH.

Good luck.

Wendy & John.
___________________­____________________­__________________





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Doug 16 April 2005 18:00:43 permanent link ]
 Does it do this only within a few minutes after starting, or does it also
happen when the engine is warmed up?

If it happens only after start-up, it could be the Mass AirFlow sensor. I
have a 1993 Olds 88 that would start and run fine EXCEPT when given more
than half throttle. It would act like this until the coolant temp went over
100 degrees, at which point it would run better. Also, the engine would ping
under heavy load unless I used hi-test. After manually testing the TPS and
MAF with a VOM (I'm still a DIY mechanic), the results clearly indicated the
MAF was bad. After replacing it, it has run great. Good luck.

doug


"Bob" <bobk4000JUNK@JUNKy­ahooJUNK.JUNKcom> wrote in message
news:1160bq9sfqtqld­d@corp.supernews.com­...> The service techs who work on my car are pulling their hair out over the > problem - a very intermittent hesitation when the car is first driven.>
The car is a 1995 Olds 88 with the 3.8L engine with just over 75,000 miles > on it. A couple of months ago it developed an occasional hesitation while > first driven, or sometimes a rough idle before I back it out of the > driveway. Won't do it on a regular basis; the car might run fine for > several days, and then the problem occurs. Usually it only lasts for 10 - > 15 seconds close to home, although it did act up once while stopped in > traffic about a mile from home - it felt like the engine was going to die, > but kept chugging. Not much happened when I stepped on the gas, but after > about 20 seconds the idle smoothed out and I could accelerate. Car went > to the garage after that incident, and the techs have encountered the > problem, but are still trying to figure out the cause. Oh and one time > while the car was misbehaving in the driveway, I popped the hood, in case > I could see anything. While the idle was going up and down, I did hear a > loud mechanical snap, and the idle smoothed right out.>
Here's what has been checked, so far: no check engine light when the car > hesitates, and no trouble codes stored. They suspected a fuel pump > problem, however, they did get the car to fail with a pressure gauge > hooked up, and eliminated a fuel problem from the pump. Possible > electrical ground problem, but that didn't solve it either.>
They did give the car a tune up; they said the wires looked a bit old, > although they were (supposedly) changed back in 2001 around 55,000 miles > by an Olds dealership that I stopped doing business with.>
Anyone have any thoughts or ideas on this? I'd welcome suggestions on > this, since the techs have had the car for several weeks, and would love > to get it back to me. I understand intermittent problems are hard to > track down; I've had experience in the computer and electronics repair > industry so I'm giving them as much time as it takes to find the problem.>
Thanks for any input.> Bob.>


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Joseph Oberlander 16 April 2005 23:16:09 permanent link ]
 

Steve Mackie wrote:
That's funny, I am currently having the same problem with my '95 Monte, but> it's a little less intermittent. I think it's the PCM or the fuel pump> wiring on my car.

On mine it was the EGR valve(or whetever equivalent system your
95 has) and the MAF both dying a slow death. Also, the timing
gear should be inspected, it's notoriously weak and needs to
be looked at just like a belt on these engines. Leaving it to
130-150K will cost you a lot of money.

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Joseph Oberlander 16 April 2005 23:20:07 permanent link ]
 
The service techs who work on my car are pulling their hair out over the >>problem - a very intermittent hesitation when the car is first driven.>>

Oh - take it to the dealer. They have the computers and modules
to swap in do track down problems on hand, plus real computers
instead of the cheap generic ones. Three machanics were
clueless on mine and then I took it to the GM garage. 1 hour
to diagnose right, and what was three weeks DOA was fixed and
running by that afternoon.

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Bob 18 April 2005 02:56:14 permanent link ]
 doug wrote:> Does it do this only within a few minutes after starting, or does it> also happen when the engine is warmed up?>
If it happens only after start-up, it could be the Mass AirFlow> sensor. I have a 1993 Olds 88 that would start and run fine EXCEPT> when given more than half throttle. It would act like this until the> coolant temp went over 100 degrees, at which point it would run> better. Also, the engine would ping under heavy load unless I used> hi-test. After manually testing the TPS and MAF with a VOM (I'm still> a DIY mechanic), the results clearly indicated the MAF was bad. After> replacing it, it has run great. Good luck.> doug

Doug,

So far, it's happened right from a cold startup, or after driving a very
short distance, say 1 or 2 city blocks. Once it was after being driven
about a mile, again from a cold start.

Seems to run fine after the car reaches operating temperature. Thanks for
the input; I'll pass it along.

Bob.


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Bob 18 April 2005 03:02:13 permanent link ]
 Joseph Oberlander wrote:
Oh - take it to the dealer. They have the computers and modules> to swap in do track down problems on hand, plus real computers> instead of the cheap generic ones. Three machanics were> clueless on mine and then I took it to the GM garage. 1 hour> to diagnose right, and what was three weeks DOA was fixed and> running by that afternoon.

Joseph,

I would, except I've had some bad experiences with two different Olds
dealers in regards to service. The last straw was several thousand dollars
of repairs on the A/C, only to have it go flat a year later. Took it to my
local service station, and the evac and recharge they did has held up fine.
Oh, they do come highly rated, and have been very honest to work with,
unlike my experience with the dealers.

I do appreciate your feedback and answers.

Bob.


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Bob 18 April 2005 03:03:15 permanent link ]
 Many thanks to all who responded; I'll post back with the fix, once they get
to the bottom of the hesitation problem.

Bob.


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