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Red Bull have a lucky strike.
Bigbird 5 May 2005 19:36:13
	BARs exclusion has meant that RBR have now scored in every race this season and continue to have a fair opportunity in the next two races. Williams were the big winners with an extra 4 points, I think, are the Williams boys, now both 5th equal in the championship. JV 4th who'd have thought
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Geoff May 5 May 2005 20:58:35 [ permanent link ]
	Bigbird wrote:> BARs exclusion has meant that RBR have now scored in every race this season > and continue to have a fair opportunity in the next two races. Renault and McLaren have also scored every race. Williams were the big winners with an extra 4 points, I think, are the > Williams boys, now both 5th equal in the championship. Not quite. Ferrari are 4th 'cos of the quality of their results. JV 4th who'd have thought The real question is "Will it shut the JVi bashers up?" Somehow, I doubt it... There are a few other changes of note: Liuzzi is one of the 62 drivers to have earned points on his first start, (this includes the Indy 500 drivers who earned F1 points). BAR are still ranked ahead of Minardi 'cos of the quality of results from the first 3 races. I'll bet Rofl's mightily miffed they decided to drop the appeal against his 25 seconds. He's now 9th and, had the 25 second penalty been reversed, he'd have been 6th. MfG Geoff. -- Unofficial F1 Database: http://glibs.ssmmdd.co.uk/ Update: 5th May, 2005 USENET Email address is a spam trap, send Emails to address in the DB
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Bigbird 5 May 2005 21:34:56 [ permanent link ]
	Geoff May wrote:> Bigbird wrote:> > BARs exclusion has meant that RBR have now scored in every race> > this season and continue to have a fair opportunity in the next two> > races.> Renault and McLaren have also scored every race.> But that is somewhat less of an achievment compared to RBR. Williams were the big winners with an extra 4 points, I think, are> > the Williams boys, now both 5th equal in the championship.> Not quite. Yes quite. [snip]> JV 4th who'd have thought > The real question is "Will it shut the JVi bashers up?" Somehow, I> doubt it...> There are a few other changes of note:> Liuzzi is one of the 62 drivers to have earned points on his first> start, (this includes the Indy 500 drivers who earned F1 points).> BAR are still ranked ahead of Minardi 'cos of the quality of results> from the first 3 races.> Pedantry. Hardly worthy of note until the end of the season. You really are asking too much for people to have to specify that the ranking they are quoting is based simply on points or otherwise. I'll bet Rofl's mightily miffed they decided to drop the appeal> against his 25 seconds. He's now 9th and, had the 25 second penalty> been reversed, he'd have been 6th.> I didn't see the incident but I had the feeling they knew they were on a loser even when they lodged the appeal. Didn't they say they were appealing in order to clarify the rules?
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Bumble Bee Boy 2 5 May 2005 21:38:08 [ permanent link ]
	"Bigbird" <BigBird.usenet@REMTHSgmail.com> wrote in message news:yfCdnbc2ALPcxOffRVnygQ@pipex.net...> I didn't see the incident but I had the feeling they knew they were on a > loser even when they lodged the appeal. Didn't they say they were > appealing in order to clarify the rules? No, they said they're going to seek a clarification of the rule from the FIA now they're not appealing. Bumble Bigger Bird.
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Geoff May 5 May 2005 21:45:44 [ permanent link ]
	Bigbird wrote:> Geoff May wrote:> Bigbird wrote:>> BARs exclusion has meant that RBR have now scored in every race>>>this season and continue to have a fair opportunity in the next two>>>races.>> Renault and McLaren have also scored every race.> But that is somewhat less of an achievment compared to RBR. Very true. I'd still like to have the tosspot at Ford in front of me so I can kick his rear end every time I get irritated. I'm fairly sure I can work up my irritation. In fact, I can guarantee it. Williams were the big winners with an extra 4 points, I think, are>>>the Williams boys, now both 5th equal in the championship.>> Not quite.> Yes quite. If you ignore the quality of results, then Williams and Ferrari are equal 4th, not 5th. But, you did write "I think" and I can also accept that the 5th was a slip of the finger. Either way, the points will be a welcome addition for Williams. JV 4th who'd have thought >> The real question is "Will it shut the JVi bashers up?" Somehow, I>>doubt it...>> There are a few other changes of note:>> Liuzzi is one of the 62 drivers to have earned points on his first>>start, (this includes the Indy 500 drivers who earned F1 points).>> BAR are still ranked ahead of Minardi 'cos of the quality of results>>from the first 3 races.> Pedantry. Hardly worthy of note until the end of the season. You really are > asking too much for people to have to specify that the ranking they are > quoting is based simply on points or otherwise. <snigger> Yeah, 'cepting pedantry appears to be a major cause of this situation regarding BAR. Sort of. I'll bet Rofl's mightily miffed they decided to drop the appeal>>against his 25 seconds. He's now 9th and, had the 25 second penalty>>been reversed, he'd have been 6th.> I didn't see the incident but I had the feeling they knew they were on a > loser even when they lodged the appeal. Didn't they say they were appealing > in order to clarify the rules? They said they were going to bring it up at the next meeting. I forgot which meeting exactly but I got the impression they were talking about this weekend. As soon as I hear/read something, I'll let ya's know. MfG Geoff. -- Unofficial F1 Database: http://glibs.ssmmdd.co.uk/ Update: 5th May, 2005 USENET Email address is a spam trap, send Emails to address in the DB
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Bigbird 5 May 2005 21:52:41 [ permanent link ]
	Bumble Bee Boy 2 wrote:> "Bigbird" <BigBird.usenet@REMTHSgmail.com> wrote in message> news:yfCdnbc2ALPcxOffRVnygQ@pipex.net...> > I didn't see the incident but I had the feeling they knew they were> > on a loser even when they lodged the appeal. Didn't they say they> > were appealing in order to clarify the rules?> No, they said they're going to seek a clarification of the rule from> the FIA now they're not appealing.> Racing team principal Tsutomu Tomita said: "In view of the extremely vague description of the regulation and a number of similar incidents which have gone unpunished, Toyota has decided to appeal the decision of the stewards in order to clarify this issue for the future." <http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=24221>
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Bigbird 5 May 2005 21:56:23 [ permanent link ]
	Geoff May wrote:> Bigbird wrote:> > Geoff May wrote:> > Bigbird wrote:> > > BARs exclusion has meant that RBR have now scored in every race> > > > this season and continue to have a fair opportunity in the next> > > > two races.> > > Renault and McLaren have also scored every race.> > But that is somewhat less of an achievment compared to RBR.> Very true. I'd still like to have the tosspot at Ford in front of me> so I can kick his rear end every time I get irritated. I'm fairly> sure I can work up my irritation. In fact, I can guarantee it.> Williams were the big winners with an extra 4 points, I think,> > > > are the Williams boys, now both 5th equal in the championship.> > > Not quite.> > Yes quite.> If you ignore the quality of results, then Williams and Ferrari are> equal 4th, not 5th. But, you did write "I think" and I can also accept> that the 5th was a slip of the finger. Either way, the points will be> a welcome addition for Williams.> In that case I stand corrected. I was looking at www.formula1.com and was pretty sure the results were all updated correctly.
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Geoff May 5 May 2005 22:40:01 [ permanent link ]
	Bumble Bee Boy 2 wrote:> [snipped]> The team will however work together with the FIA and the other teams to > further clarify what constitutes the 'safe release' of the car by the > competitor following a pit stop at the subsequent Team Managers meeting. That's the "meeting" to which I was referring, thanks for that. MfG Geoff. -- Unofficial F1 Database: http://glibs.ssmmdd.co.uk/ Update: 5th May, 2005 USENET Email address is a spam trap, send Emails to address in the DB
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Mk IV 6 May 2005 04:14:20 [ permanent link ]
	Bigbird <BigBird.usenet@REMTHSgmail.com> scribbled: BARs exclusion has meant that RBR have now scored in every race this> season and continue to have a fair opportunity in the next two races.> Williams were the big winners with an extra 4 points, I think, are the> Williams boys, now both 5th equal in the championship.> JV 4th who'd have thought ... and Wurz gets a trophy...
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