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BAR to take the case further...
Paul-B 5 May 2005 18:36:37
	... possibly. A BAR spokesman has just announced that their legal advisors say thet the FIA have confirmed that their car was legal, therefore they are considering taking the FIA on in a civil court. PLEASE!!!
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Brian Lawrence 5 May 2005 18:54:11 [ permanent link ]
	"Paul-B" <null@null.invalid.com> wrote: ... possibly. A BAR spokesman has just announced that their legal> advisors say thet the FIA have confirmed that their car was legal,> therefore they are considering taking the FIA on in a civil court.> PLEASE!!! Nick Fry implied that they will be on the grid in Barcelona. -- Brian
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Eddie 5 May 2005 19:57:20 [ permanent link ]
	"Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS@msn.com> wrote in message news:3duqckFab9pU1@individual.net...> "Paul-B" <null@null.invalid.com> wrote:> ... possibly. A BAR spokesman has just announced that their legal>> advisors say thet the FIA have confirmed that their car was legal,>> therefore they are considering taking the FIA on in a civil court.>> PLEASE!!!> Nick Fry implied that they will be on the grid in Barcelona. I wish that they'd make up their bloody minds - I've adjusted my Pick6 3 times so far, and I'm running out of time...... E P.S. For the record, I think that the FIA were somewhat wrong in bringing this action - I believe, but I can't be bothered to check too carefully, that Max (or the FIA) have said in the past that if the scrutinisers say it's okay, then it's okay, and vice versa (e.g. the differential braking system used by McLaren in 1998)
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Sugar Mouse 5 May 2005 20:36:21 [ permanent link ]
	"Eddie" <news_postings@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:d5dfov$apo$1@scotsman.ed.ac.uk...> "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS@msn.com> wrote in message > news:3duqckFab9pU1@individual.net...>> "Paul-B" <null@null.invalid.com> wrote:>> ... possibly. A BAR spokesman has just announced that their legal>>> advisors say thet the FIA have confirmed that their car was legal,>>> therefore they are considering taking the FIA on in a civil court.>>> PLEASE!!!>> Nick Fry implied that they will be on the grid in Barcelona.> I wish that they'd make up their bloody minds - I've adjusted my Pick6 3 > times so far, and I'm running out of time......> P.S. For the record, I think that the FIA were somewhat wrong in bringing > this action - I believe, but I can't be bothered to check too carefully, > that Max (or the FIA) have said in the past that if the scrutinisers say > it's okay, then it's okay, and vice versa (e.g. the differential braking > system used by McLaren in 1998) But they then banned it! I think there are other cases of the same thing, where a team believed they were legal, and then were scrutinised as being so, but later the FIA decided that it was not the case. IIRC Nathan.
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Paul-B 5 May 2005 20:42:59 [ permanent link ]
	Sugar Mouse wrote: "Eddie" <news_postings@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message > news:d5dfov$apo$1@scotsman.ed.ac.uk...> > "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS@msn.com> wrote in message > > news:3duqckFab9pU1@individual.net...> >> "Paul-B" <null@null.invalid.com> wrote:> > > ... possibly. A BAR spokesman has just announced that their legal> >>> advisors say thet the FIA have confirmed that their car was legal,> >>> therefore they are considering taking the FIA on in a civil court.> > > > PLEASE!!!> > > Nick Fry implied that they will be on the grid in Barcelona.> > I wish that they'd make up their bloody minds - I've adjusted my> > Pick6 3 times so far, and I'm running out of time......> > P.S. For the record, I think that the FIA were somewhat wrong in> > bringing this action - I believe, but I can't be bothered to check> > too carefully, that Max (or the FIA) have said in the past that if> > the scrutinisers say it's okay, then it's okay, and vice versa> > (e.g. the differential braking system used by McLaren in 1998)> But they then banned it!> I think there are other cases of the same thing, where a team> believed they were legal, and then were scrutinised as being so, but> later the FIA decided that it was not the case. IIRC> Nathan. Just heard Nick Fry say that the team will go to the civil courts to try to get an injunction allowing them to qualify and race. Good for BAR!
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Randy Howard 5 May 2005 22:40:38 [ permanent link ]
	In article <3dupbkFada1U1@individual.net>, null@null.invalid.com says...> ... possibly. A BAR spokesman has just announced that their legal> advisors say thet the FIA have confirmed that their car was legal,> therefore they are considering taking the FIA on in a civil court. Taking sporting decisions to civil courts is an incredibly bad idea. It ought to be part of the regs that any team that takes a case to a court outside of the actual sport's ruling authority will not be allowed to participate in any season thereafter. -- Randy Howard (2reply remove FOOBAR) "If the evidence doesn't seem to fit a particular conspiracy theory, just create a bigger conspiracy theory." --Robert D. Hicks
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Paul-B 5 May 2005 23:00:26 [ permanent link ]
	Randy Howard wrote: In article <3dupbkFada1U1@individual.net>, null@null.invalid.com> says...> > ... possibly. A BAR spokesman has just announced that their legal> > advisors say thet the FIA have confirmed that their car was legal,> > therefore they are considering taking the FIA on in a civil court.> Taking sporting decisions to civil courts is an incredibly bad> idea. It ought to be part of the regs that any team that takes> a case to a court outside of the actual sport's ruling authority> will not be allowed to participate in any season thereafter. Which would be an illegal clause in the EC.
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Vig 5 May 2005 23:26:33 [ permanent link ]
	"Randy Howard" <randyhoward@FOOverizonBAR.net> wrote in message news:MPG.1ce424a25c5adc0d98a648@news.verizon.net... Taking sporting decisions to civil courts is an incredibly bad> idea. It ought to be part of the regs that any team that takes> a case to a court outside of the actual sport's ruling authority> will not be allowed to participate in any season thereafter. It also ought to be part of the regs that any team that takes a perfectly nice car color and makes it a shitty shade of it should be banned from cheating... Just kidding -- Vig
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Da Frank 5 May 2005 23:30:52 [ permanent link ]
	On 5 May 2005 14:36:37 GMT, "Paul-B" <null@null.invalid.com> wrote: ... possibly. A BAR spokesman has just announced that their legal>advisors say thet the FIA have confirmed that their car was legal,>therefore they are considering taking the FIA on in a civil court.> PLEASE!!!> Oh God, who is helping them, Stoddard ? -- Regards, Frank
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Scott 6 May 2005 02:24:15 [ permanent link ]
	"Da Frank" <fajp@ooptushome.com.au> wrote in message news:m2tk71lfth5glb6tc6coma9p8ekspfjao0@4ax.com> On 5 May 2005 14:36:37 GMT, "Paul-B" <null@null.invalid.com> wrote:> ... possibly. A BAR spokesman has just announced that their legal>> advisors say thet the FIA have confirmed that their car was legal,>> therefore they are considering taking the FIA on in a civil court.>> PLEASE!!!>> Oh God, who is helping them, Stoddard ? Well I guess if BAT lend BAR a few lawyers, anything is possible
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CatharticF1 6 May 2005 08:15:36 [ permanent link ]
	"Paul-B" <null@null.invalid.com> wrote in news:3dupbkFada1U1 @individual.net: ... possibly. A BAR spokesman has just announced that their legal> advisors say thet the FIA have confirmed that their car was legal,> therefore they are considering taking the FIA on in a civil court.> PLEASE!!! The car was legal, it just didn't have enough proper ballast in it. The FIA did not say to them they could use fuel as a ballast, nor did they say they could fail the weigh-in after the race if it was 'OK' with fuel in it. Ridiculous.. -- CatharticF1 'What you thought was freedom is just greed'
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Bigbird 6 May 2005 14:57:51 [ permanent link ]
	CatharticF1 wrote:> "Paul-B" <null@null.invalid.com> wrote in news:3dupbkFada1U1> @individual.net:> ... possibly. A BAR spokesman has just announced that their legal> > advisors say thet the FIA have confirmed that their car was legal,> > therefore they are considering taking the FIA on in a civil court.> > PLEASE!!!> The car was legal, it just didn't have enough proper ballast in it. Wouldn't this make it illegal? Ridiculous.. I agree, what were you thinking.
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CatharticF1 6 May 2005 17:12:45 [ permanent link ]
	"Bigbird" <BigBird.usenet@REMTHSgmail.com> wrote in news:efGdnZWpa7wy0ObfRVnyug@pipex.net: CatharticF1 wrote:>> "Paul-B" <null@null.invalid.com> wrote in news:3dupbkFada1U1>> @individual.net:>> ... possibly. A BAR spokesman has just announced that their legal>> > advisors say thet the FIA have confirmed that their car was legal,>> > therefore they are considering taking the FIA on in a civil court.>> > PLEASE!!!>> The car was legal, it just didn't have enough proper ballast in it.> Wouldn't this make it illegal? I don't follow.. If it had another 5.6kg attached to the floor we wouldn't be having this discussion. -- CatharticF1 'What you thought was freedom is just greed'
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