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Will MS use his NO2 Button Again next race

Travis Campbell 30 April 2005 06:14:24
 to boost his lap times an amazing 2 seconds like last weekend?


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F/Fgeorge 30 April 2005 07:57:06 permanent link ]
 On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:14:24 -0400, "Travis Campbell" <Travis@aol.com>
wrote:
to boost his lap times an amazing 2 seconds like last weekend?>
He probably used some extra rpm's that the engine is capable of
anyway, just not normally used to ensure a longer 2 race life. He will
probably have problems this next race or not be as good or replace it.

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Logan Spitznauer 30 April 2005 23:27:37 permanent link ]
 Air Shocks to lower it for the straights.


"Travis Campbell" <Travis@aol.com> wrote in message
news:4272ea10$1_5@a­lt.athenanews.com...­> to boost his lap times an amazing 2 seconds like last weekend?>


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Neutron 1 May 2005 00:56:28 permanent link ]
 Why the straights?

"Logan Spitznauer" <mjdr10a@prodigy.ne­t> wrote in message
news:P­_Qce.134$eU.5­8@fed1read07...> Air Shocks to lower it for the straights.>
"Travis Campbell" <Travis@aol.com> wrote in message> news:4272ea10$1_5@a­lt.athenanews.com...­> > to boost his lap times an amazing 2 seconds like last weekend?> >


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Bigbird 1 May 2005 02:48:38 permanent link ]
 neutron wrote:> Why the straights?

Google "F1 ride height"
"Logan Spitznauer" <mjdr10a@prodigy.ne­t> wrote in message> news:P­_Qce.134$eU.5­8@fed1read07...> > Air Shocks to lower it for the straights.> >
"Travis Campbell" <Travis@aol.com> wrote in message> > news:4272ea10$1_5@a­lt.athenanews.com...­> > > to boost his lap times an amazing 2 seconds like last weekend?


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F/Fgeorge 1 May 2005 08:27:41 permanent link ]
 On 30 Apr 2005 20:58:01 -0700, faux_ferrari@yahoo.­com wrote:
Travis Campbell wrote:>> to boost his lap times an amazing 2 seconds like last weekend?>
Don't worry about it.>
Because the Jalopy chassis (aka Ferrari) is such crap this year, DNFing>half>the time, Backmarker had a fresh engine at Imola while Alonso ran a>sand>filled engine worn out on the long straights at Bahrain. That's why>Michael>Backmar­ker was able to stay close. (It's hilarious to see the Sauber>lapping>fast­er than the Ferrari with the same engine, isn't it?)>
When they get to Spain and the Renault has a new engine while>Backmarker is>running an old one, you'll see a different result. (I think Toad>finally>realiz­ed the FIA won't fix races for him anymore, thus why no DNF at>Imola.>They have to start earning points.) Plus, with that long straight,>there's>n­o way the Fellatio car (aka Ferrari) can keep up with the Renault.>
Did you also notice that Alonso never resorted to Backmarker-like>tac­tics at>Imola? No blocking, no weaving, no dirty tricks. Backmarker never>passed >Alonso because 'Nando outdrove him.
And you were watching what race?
FA kept him behind him by using very skillful driving tactics. He KNEW
his car was faster on acceleration but worse under braking, FA slowed
way down protected the line and then out accelerated MS on every
corner! With the short straightaways MS had no chance to overtake him
and get thru unscathed!
MS OFTEN sets his car up so it can run REALLY fast on the
straightaways but suffers from low downforce in the turns, FA KNEW
this! EVERYONE KNOWS THIS!!! FA had the line and MS could do nothing
about it!

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F2005: 0 of 2 1 May 2005 17:56:42 permanent link ]
 On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:48:38 +0100, "Bigbird"
<BigBird.usenet@REM­THSgmail.com> wrote:>neutron wrote:>> Why the straights?>
Google "F1 ride height"

Think again, or even a first time: As ride height is reduced
downforce is increased, along with drag.

So... "Why the straights", fuckwit?

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John Briggs 2 May 2005 15:59:56 permanent link ]
 F2005: 0 of 2 wrote:> On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:48:38 +0100, "Bigbird"> <BigBird.usenet@REM­THSgmail.com> wrote:>> neutron wrote:>>> Why the straights?>>
Google "F1 ride height">
Think again, or even a first time: As ride height is reduced> downforce is increased, along with drag.>
So... "Why the straights", fuckwit?

"Raise it for the straights"?
--
John Briggs


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Phil Newnham 2 May 2005 17:10:55 permanent link ]
 F2005: 0 of 2 wrote:> On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:48:38 +0100, "Bigbird"> <BigBird.usenet@REM­THSgmail.com> wrote:>
neutron wrote:>>
Why the straights?>>
Google "F1 ride height">
Think again, or even a first time: As ride height is reduced> downforce is increased, along with drag.>
So... "Why the straights", fuckwit?

As ride height is reduced, lift and drag are both reduced, until a
critical point at very low ride height where the flow under the car
becomes choked. Source: Race Car Aerodynamics, by Joseph Katz (and also
unpublished wind tunnel testing on a flat-bottomed race car model with a
diffuser, Loughborough model tunnel, about 3 weeks ago). If you're
interested, the drag reduction comes because increasing the air velocity
under the car, by reducing the clearance, increases the velocity of the
flow in the diffuser, and reduces the effective vehicle wake size,
giving a drag benefit, albeit a fairly small one.

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Phil

http://www.usefilm.­com/photographer/313­07.html
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Da Frank 2 May 2005 19:11:45 permanent link ]
 On Mon, 02 May 2005 14:10:55 +0100, Phil Newnham <pnewnham@yahoo.com­>
wrote:
Google "F1 ride height">>
Think again, or even a first time: As ride height is reduced>> downforce is increased, along with drag.>>
So... "Why the straights", fuckwit?>
As ride height is reduced, lift and drag are both reduced, until a >critical point at very low ride height where the flow under the car >becomes choked. Source: Race Car Aerodynamics, by Joseph Katz (and also >unpublished wind tunnel testing on a flat-bottomed race car model with a >diffuser, Loughborough model tunnel, about 3 weeks ago). If you're >interested, the drag reduction comes because increasing the air velocity >under the car, by reducing the clearance, increases the velocity of the >flow in the diffuser, and reduces the effective vehicle wake size, >giving a drag benefit, albeit a fairly small one.>
You're talking rubbish. I saw the book Mark was reading from and it
clearly stated: "add two eggs, salt, half a cup of flour, mix
thoroughly until uneven..."

--

Regards, Frank
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F2005: 0 of 2 3 May 2005 04:26:48 permanent link ]
 On Mon, 02 May 2005 14:10:55 +0100, Phil Newnham <pnewnham@yahoo.com­>
wrote:>F2005: 0 of 2 wrote:>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:48:38 +0100, "Bigbird">> <BigBird.usenet@REM­THSgmail.com> wrote:>>
neutron wrote:>>>
Why the straights?>>>
Google "F1 ride height">>
Think again, or even a first time: As ride height is reduced>> downforce is increased, along with drag.>>
So... "Why the straights", fuckwit?>
As ride height is reduced, lift and drag are both reduced, until a >critical point at very low ride height where the flow under the car >becomes choked. Source: Race Car Aerodynamics, by Joseph Katz (and also >unpublished wind tunnel testing on a flat-bottomed race car model with a >diffuser, Loughborough model tunnel, about 3 weeks ago). If you're >interested, the drag reduction comes because increasing the air velocity >under the car, by reducing the clearance, increases the velocity of the >flow in the diffuser, and reduces the effective vehicle wake size, >giving a drag benefit, albeit a fairly small one.

Reductio ad absurdum: Truly the last refuge of scoundrels.
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Graham Hodgson 3 May 2005 14:07:38 permanent link ]
 F2005: 0 of 2 wrote:> On Mon, 02 May 2005 14:10:55 +0100, Phil Newnham <pnewnham@yahoo.com­>> wrote:>>As ride height is reduced, lift and drag are both reduced, until a >>critical point at very low ride height where the flow under the car >>becomes choked. Source: Race Car Aerodynamics, by Joseph Katz (and also >>unpublished wind tunnel testing on a flat-bottomed race car model with a >>diffuser, Loughborough model tunnel, about 3 weeks ago). If you're >>interested, the drag reduction comes because increasing the air velocity >>under the car, by reducing the clearance, increases the velocity of the >>flow in the diffuser, and reduces the effective vehicle wake size, >>giving a drag benefit, albeit a fairly small one.>
Reductio ad absurdum: Truly the last refuge of scoundrels.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^­^

Latin for "confusing the masses"?

Cheers
Graham

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Make a little birdhouse in your soul.
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F2005: 0 of 2 3 May 2005 15:33:22 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 03 May 2005 11:07:38 +0100, Graham Hodgson <ttgmh@hotmail.com>­
wrote:>F2005: 0 of 2 wrote:>> On Mon, 02 May 2005 14:10:55 +0100, Phil Newnham <pnewnham@yahoo.com­>>> wrote:>>>As ride height is reduced, lift and drag are both reduced, until a >>>critical point at very low ride height where the flow under the car >>>becomes choked. Source: Race Car Aerodynamics, by Joseph Katz (and also >>>unpublished wind tunnel testing on a flat-bottomed race car model with a >>>diffuser, Loughborough model tunnel, about 3 weeks ago). If you're >>>interested, the drag reduction comes because increasing the air velocity >>>under the car, by reducing the clearance, increases the velocity of the >>>flow in the diffuser, and reduces the effective vehicle wake size, >>>giving a drag benefit, albeit a fairly small one.>>
Reductio ad absurdum: Truly the last refuge of scoundrels.> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^­^>
Latin for "confusing the masses"?

...Ignoramus.

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Graham Hodgson 3 May 2005 17:20:00 permanent link ]
 F2005: 0 of 2 wrote:> On Tue, 03 May 2005 11:07:38 +0100, Graham Hodgson <ttgmh@hotmail.com>­> wrote:>
F2005: 0 of 2 wrote:>>
Reductio ad absurdum: Truly the last refuge of scoundrels.>>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^­^>>
Latin for "confusing the masses"?>
...Ignoramus.

Hear that plane go overhead?

Cheers
Graham

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